Winter Nationals wraps up with stellar American record for Ledecky, relay wins for Cal

The final session of the 2013 AT&T Winter Nationals takes place tonight. The events will kick off with the final men’s and women’s heats of the 1650, and the session will go 200 back, 100 free, 200 breast, 200 fly and conclude with the 400 free relays.

Teammates and international superstars Liz Pelton and Missy Franklin will go toe-to-toe in the women’s 200 back, Katie Ledecky will chase the American record in the 1650, and Jamaican Alia Atkinson aims for a meet record in the 200 breast. On the men’s side, Nathan Adrian leads a stellar men’s 100 free field where the top 8 were separated by only .76 this morning and super Cal freshman Ryan Murphy holds the top seed in the 200 back.

Live results.

Live stream.

Prelims recap.


Women’s 1650 Free

Katie Ledecky started Saturday finals out with a bang, smashing the American and U.S. Open records in the 1650 in a dominating 15:15.17 performance. Ledecky had the entire national championship field lapped by the 1200-mark and was at one point as much as 10 seconds under record pace. The old record was set by Katie Hoff back in 2008: 15:24.35. That means the 16-year-0ld Ledecky put up the fastest 1650 in history by 9 full seconds. It’s getting hard to find enough adjectives to describe Ledecky, who sprung onto the national scene just in time for the 2012 Olympics and appears to be just getting started on a career arc that could do sizable damage to the record books.

Indiana’s Lindsay Vrooman took second place in 15:54.68, the third-fastest time in the NCAA this year. Chloe Sutton was third in 15:57.45. The top swimmer from the morning heats, Ashley Twichell took fourth overall in 15:59.44. Towson University’s Kaitlin Burke took fifth, ASU’s Tristin Baxter sixth, Minnesota post-grad Ashley Steenvoorden seventh, and 16-year-old Moriah Simonds of the Pleasanton Seahawks rounded out the top 8.


Men’s 1650 Free

Connor Jaeger of Michigan took the men’s mile, going 14.39.02 and starting off a 1-2-3 finish for swimmers training in Ann Arbor this year. Post-grad Michael Klueh was 14:40.20 in pursuit of Jaeger and the Wolverine’s Dutch representative Anders Nielsen took third in 14:47.88. Those times constitute the top 2 times in the NCAA this year for Jaeger and Nielsen.

Craig Hamilton of Tiger Aquatics was fourth in 14:55.24, just beating out the top time from the morning heats, Stephen Milne’s 14:55.71. Milne was fifth overall. California’s Jeremy Bagshaw took sixth, Badger Swim Club (and former Wolverine) Ryan Feeley was seventh and Jordan Wilimovsky of Northwestern rounded out the top 8 finishers.


Women’s 200 Back

The much-hyped showdown between Liz Pelton and Missy Franklin in the 200 backstroke never really materialized. Liz Pelton didn’t let it. Pelton swam away from the field, Franklin included, early on, buiding a huge lead at the 100 that no one could put a dent in. The American record-holder went 1:49.59, just missing the meet record, which belongs to her teammate Franklin. For her part, Franklin held off charges from a tough field to take second place, going 1:51.54. Indiana’s Brooklyn Snodgrass took third, going 1:52.68 to just beat out Cal’s Melanie Klaren, who was charging through the field in the final 50 with her eye on a 1-2-3 finish for Cal. Klaren went 1:52.84 for fourth place, followed by two more Cal Bears - Stephanie Au and Sophia Batchelor. Indiana’s Cynthia Pammett took seventh and high-schooler and NCAP star Janet Hu was eighth after winning a swim-off this morning just to make the A final.

Cal’s Cindy Tran won the B heat, cutting a second and a half off her prelims time. Wisconsin high-schooler Beata Nelson also dropped a second and a half from prelims to win the C final.


Men’s 200 Back

In the men’s 200 back it was Russian Olympian Arkady Vyatchanin who blew away the field, winning in 1:37.87. A pair of young Cal Bears took the next two spots, Jacob Pebley took second from all the way out in lane 8 (1:40.72) and top-seeded Ryan Murphy was third, going 1:41.02. That time for Pebley ranks number 1 in the NCAA this year, and Murphy sits number 5.

Indiana senior Eric Ress took fourth overall, going 1:41.58, followed by Utah Ute Kristian Kron and a pair of Louisville men, Grigory Tarasevich and Aaron Greene. Queens University’s Matthew Josa, who broke the Division II NCAA record in prelims, was disqualified from the A final.

Andrew Seliskar of NCAP won the B heat, dropping nearly two seconds from this morning to go a lifetime-best 1:42.23, which would have placed him fifth overall.


Women’s 100 Free

Natalie Coughlin led the whole way in the women’s 100 free, going 47.19 to hold off a late charge from Amanda Weir. Coughlin was just .3 off of her own meet and American records. Weir took second place, going 47.37 and Missy Franklin came off of the 200 back to put up the top NCAA time of the year while taking third in 47.42. Franklin was also the fastest swimmer in the pool over the second 50.

SwimMAC’s Arianna Vanderpool-Wallace came in fourth in 48.21, just ahead of Traycie Swartz out of the University of Utah. Cal’s Rachael Acker took sixth, future Stanford Cardinal Janet Hu was seventh and Tennessee’s Faith Johnson took 8th in the A final.

California swimmers won all three heats: Kaylin Bing was 48.91 to win the B final and Farida Osman dropped almost a full second to take the bonus final in 49.00.


Men’s 100 Free

The 100 free saw three men go sub-42 in an outrageously fast heat. Nathan Adrian won convincingly on his 25th birthday, going 41.39, just .04 off the meet record. Adam Brown of NYAC came in second in 41.89 and Matt Grevers snuck in under 42, going 41.99 for third.

South African Darian Townsend was fourth in 42.13, Louisville collegian Joao de Lucca was fifth in 42.24 (the second-fastest NCAA time of the season), and Josh Schneider took sixth. Nick Soedel and Karl Krug rounded out the top 8.

Dax Hill took the B final in 42.54, followed closely by Cal’s Tyler Messerschmidt, who went 42.86. Michigan commit Paul Powers won the C final in 43.23.


Women’s 200 Breast

Jamaican Alia Atkinson took home the 200 breast title, although she missed the meet record of 2:05.04, going 2:06.22. Micah Lawrence took second place in 2:08.93. Three more swimmers got under 2:10 on the day: Stina Colleou from the University of Utah was 2:09.50, Haley Spencer, a former NCAA champ at the University of Minnesota, was 2:09.80 and Justine Mueller out of T2 Aquatics was 2:09.88. Indiana’s Bronwyn Pasloski was sixth, Cal’s Marina Garcia seventh and Michigan’s Angela Chokran eighth.

Molly Hannis won the B final in come-from-behind fashion, going 2:10.45. Cal’s Celina Li was the bonus final champ in 2:11.67.


Men’s 200 Breast

Tennessee grad Brad Craig led all 200 yards of the men’s breaststroke event, going 1:52.99. Former Harvard star Chuck Katis looked like he might make a run at about 125 yards in, but Craig was able to keep Katis at bay. Katis was forced to settle for second place, going 1:53.84, a lifetime best. Louisville’s Addison Bray is having an outstanding weekend, and he took the bronze medal, going a lifetime-best 1:54.89, his second PR of the day.

Michigan’s Richard Funk was fourth, going 1:55.01, and Mike Alexandrov was fifth in 1:55.04. Narrowly behind those two were another pair, 3-time-defending Big Ten champ Cody Miller (1:55.10) and Cal’s Josh Prenot (1:55.17). Louisville’s other breaststroker, Kameron Chastain, was 8th overall.

16-year-old NCAP swimmer Carsten Vissering won the C final in a nice time of 1:56.51.


Women’s 200 Fly

2012 Olympian Claire Donahue went out like a rocket in the women’s 200 fly, leading by nearly a full second at the 100 but wasn’t able to hold on, fading all the way to 7th. Top-seeded Kelsi Worrell came back for the national title, taking another seven tenths off her lifetime-best prelims swim. Worrell was 1:54.12, the second-best swim in the NCAA this season, leapfrogging her teammate Tanja Kylliainen. (Kylliainen is not swimming this meet as she is competing for Finland in the European Championships). Worrell is new to the 200 fly, but Louisville’s coaching staff has to be seriously considering swimming her there instead of the 100 free come conference and NCAA time, considering her performances today.

Following her was the Cal pair of alumni Caitlin Leverenz and undergrad Rachel Bootsma, both of whom were 1:55. Indiana’s Brenna Maclean took fourth, also in 1:55. 17-year-old Remedy Rule of SMAC took fifth and Indiana’s Gia Dalesandro was sixth. Next was Donahue (who went from 2nd to 8th over the final 50) and eighth was Cal’s Sophia Batchelor.

In the B final, Heather Lundstrom of Tennessee (1:56.60) just touched out Hannah Saiz (1:57.10), who swam her college years at Kenyon and Celina Li (1:57.37) of Cal. All three women were significantly faster than their prelims swims.


Men’s 200 Fly

Dylan Bosch now leads the NCAA by 1.7 seconds in the 200 fly after going 1:41.01 to win a national championship. The Michigan Wolverine went out in 48.0 on his way to the win. Second place was Andrew Seliskar, who moved to within a second of the 17-18 National Age Group record held by Tom Shields. Seliskar was 1:42.55. Arizona State Sun Devil Alexandru Coci was third, going 1:43.27 to just nip Will Hamilton’s 1:43.33. Michigan’s Kyle Whitaker followed them closely, going 1:43.81.

Cal’s Marcin Tarczynski took sixth, Michigan’s John Wojciechowski seventh and Utah’s Bence Kiraly rebroke his own Ute school record from this morning, going 1:45.73 for 8th place. The previous record was 20 years old; Kiraly first broke it in the prelims. This has been a huge weekend for the Utes, who have already broken 5 school records today alone.


Women’s 400 Free Relay

California put the exclamation point on a big-time championship meet by sweeping the top two spots in the 400 free relay and breaking a meet record in the process. The top team of Rachael Acker, Liz Pelton, Kaylin Bing, and Missy Franklin went 3:13.45, the second-fastest time in the NCAA this year. Acker led off in 48.7, Pelton was 48.5, Bing went 48.3 and Franklin anchored in 47.8, a collective testament to how scary good Cal can be on relays this year.

The Cal B team was second overall, with Farida Osman leading off in 49.2 and Camille Cheng, Caroline Piehl and Cindy Tran all splitting 48s. That team finished a half-second ahead of SwimMAC, which got the fastest split in the field from Arianna Vanderpool-Wallace (47.74) in taking third overall.

Indiana was fourth, getting an NCAA A cut, and Tennessee took fifth thanks to anchor Lindsay Gendron’s 47.81 split.

NCAP took 8th overall to close a busy weekend that included multiple NAG records. Janet Hu led off in 48.99 to set the relay up in the first heat, and the team used the clean water to go 3:20.32.


Men’s 400 Free Relay

Seth Stubblefield ran down the Louisville Cardinals to win the 400 free relay, setting a new meet record in 2:51.16. Stubblefield was 42.4 on a unique anchor leg that saw him attempting to both run down Louisville’s Trevor Carroll and hold off a surging Cullen Jones of SwimMAC from the very outside lane. Stubblefield did both, and with some help from his relay-mates (Tyler Messerschmidt, 42.9, Ryan Murphy, 42.4, and Fabio Gimondi 43.3) took home the national title for Cal.

SwimMAC came in second thanks to Jones’ 42.0 split. That relay also got a 42.6 leadoff from Dax Hill to go 2:51.45.

Louisville was 2:51.88, the second-fastest time in the NCAA this season behind Cal, taking the lead on Joao de Lucca’s 41.39 split (he swam second).

Michigan’s B team took fourth from the 1st heat, going 2:52.88. Michael Wynalda was 42.6 on his split. New York Athletic Club took fifth, getting a 41.66 from Adam Brown.



In the overall team points, California was the big women’s winner to little surprise. The Golden Bears were over 250 points ahead of nearest competitor NCAP. The Michigan men beat out SwimMAC by just 50 points to take the men’s team title, giving the Wolverines some momentum in a season where they’ve really flown under the radar while attempting to defend an NCAA title. NCAP won the combined men’s and women’s point total.

Missy Franklin and Andrew Seliskar were the high points winners for the women and men, respectively. The performance of the meet award went unsurprisingly to Katie Ledecky for her mind-numbingly fast 1650 to kick off the evening.


  1. bobo gigi says:

    Final day.

    Katie Ledecky in the 1650 free.
    American record? I don’t think so. But I will be happy if I’m wrong.

    Missy vs Liz in the 200 back.
    Close race with 1.48 at the end. Missy wins.

    Nathan Adrian in the 100 free.

    Natalie Coughlin should win the 100 free. If Missy wins it after the 200 back, she’s Wonder Woman.

    Andrew Seliskar in the 200 fly.

  2. bobo gigi says:

    Oh my God as you say in USA!!!!!!!!!!!!

    4.35 at the 500! :shock:

    Either she is crazy or she is crazy.

  3. bobo gigi says:

    She continues!

    9.14 at the 1000!

    She isn’t crazy.

    She is crazy amazing fantastic!

  4. bobo gigi says:

    10 seconds under the American record pace!
    Still a few yards to swim! Come on Katie!

  5. bobo gigi says:

    Monster underwaters at the last turn!



  6. bobo gigi says:

    I’m happy I was wrong. :)

  7. bobo gigi says:

    Fully tapered and with her shape of Barcelona she could swim 15.10 or even better.
    But after her 500 free earlier in the week I didn’t expect a record like that.
    She was perhaps a little rusty on day 1. :)

    Congrats Katie.

  8. TREE says:

    WOW! I remember watching Kate Ziegler tear through 1650′s a few years ago in person. That amount of power and determination is just crazy. Something in the water in the DC area!

  9. bobo gigi says:

    Little recap of her splits.
    1.48.26 at the 200.
    4.35.25 at the 500! :shock:
    9.14.22 at the 1000! Second best 1000 of all time.
    26.56 in the last 50
    15.15.17 at the end!

  10. bobo gigi says:

    I believe the men’s 1650 free will be pale in comparison.

  11. liquidassets says:

    Ledecky’s 4 dolphin kicks off the last turn blew me away on top of an unworldly time. Phelps in his prime would have been hard-pressed to match that. In fact, it’s a shame she had to swim it alone because if Phelps, or heck, ANYone else had been there to push her, she might have started to approach Phelps best time which I believe was 15:01. (anyone know of anything faster for him?)

    A high school junior, her 15:15 would rank her in the top 20 for MEN’s NCAA Division 1 right now! That’s Evans-esque. Does anyone know if/how much she’s rested??

    • bobo gigi says:

      When you swim 15.36 in the 1500 free in long course it’s not surprising to swim 15.15 in the 1650 free in yards.
      But I’m almost sure she’s far from being prepared as well as in Barcelona.

      • liquidassets says:

        It’s VERY surprising midseason untapered!! Her 200 surprised me too. I only thought she’d be slightly faster in the 500. Fairly evenly split too, for a 1650. Last 1000 yards 9:16.2, final 500 4:37.3, final 200 1:50, final 100 54.3.

  12. bobo gigi says:

    Katie is ready to break the 400 free and 800 free world records at Duel in the Pool.

    • aswimfan says:

      Easily.. I might say.. if she’s not too jet-lagged, which won’t be too much a problem. one of the things (and there are many!) is that she conquers SCY as well as LCM. Her monster turns become more effective in SCY. Now let’s she how she does in LCM.

  13. bobo gigi says:

    Connor Jaeger wins the 1650 free in 14.39.02.

    • Rafael says:

      Would like to see if they bought guys Like Park Mellouli Horton Yang Cochrane to swim a 1650 how would the record go..

      • Flyin' says:

        At the same time, I can say having been a distance swimmer, distance swimming is completely different because of the turns in yards and meters. Idk that Yang would be that fast. His pull is what makes him.

        • aswimfan says:

          Hackett’s turns and underwater are ok, but yes, his SCM 1,500 WR still stands today, the longest WR in the book, female or male, LCM and SCM, which is crazy because SCM records shouldn’t stay that long.

          I have my doubts Yang will ever go under 14:10 to break Hackett’s recordf, his breathing pattern after the turn would be even glaring weakness.

      • mcgillrocks says:

        Or Hackett. Still holds the s/c WR in the 1500 which is 17 seconds faster than anyone’s been this year. He would torch something in yards

  14. bobo gigi says:

    Women’s 200 back to come!
    Missy vs Liz!

  15. bobo gigi says:

    Not funny race! :sad:
    Only Pelton has swum at 100%.
    1.49.59 for her.
    Very weird.
    It looks like Missy has kept her energy for the 100 free.
    Very weird.

    • liquidassets says:

      Not very weird at all considering Cal is not much rested. Don’t forget Franklin almost kept up with Ledecky 500, destroyed Pelton in the 200, and beat her in the 100 back too. She’s just human and tired. I didn’t really expect Pelton to break 1:50 after her “only” 1:44.7 in the 200, so I’m more impressed with her than I am concerned about Franklin. This is a good test meet for her for NCAAs though. With Klaren, Au, Tran, and Naze swimming solid mid-season 2Backs, maybe Franklin could do the 100 back? Naw, would be tough double though, and they need her even less in the 100 back.

  16. bobo gigi says:

    First time I’m disappointed by a Missy’s race since I watch her! Since 2009!
    It looks like she has just swum the race to make what you call the NCAA cut or something like that.
    What is sure is that she was only at 75% to keep energy for the 100 free.
    1.51 like that is even still more frustrating.
    We must wait for March!

    • liquidassets says:

      It’s not certain at all that she conserved energy, though it’s possible. Don’t forget this is only her 1st or 2nd nationals swimming the 500, Cal has been competing in 5 cities within the last two weeks, and they’ve got final exams coming up in a week. That’s very grueling and they’re not machines. She looked great in the 100 and gave the much more rested Coughlin/Weir a run for their money.

      • bobo gigi says:

        Of course she’s human.
        But you don’t swim 47.42 just after a 200 back if you are dead.
        She’s crazy good. That’s all. But we already knew that! :)

        • [email protected] says:

          Well I could see her legs were gone from the 2Back anyway, or she might have won. She still had her arms strongly and lost on the turns/breakouts. I doubt she saved for the 100 but if so, it backfired as she lost both races.

        • SWIMPHILE says:

          Yeah I wouldn’t worry at all. 47.42 which just happens to be the fastest NCAA time this season (of course Geer, Carlson or Martin might have something to say about that over at the other UT meet in a couple of hours!) isn’t too shabby at all for a “not much rested” mid-season swim following a 200 back race. That time would have been good enough for a 3rd place finish at 2013 NCAA Champs…

          • bobo gigi says:

            Liquidassets, Missy swims 1.51 every day, everytime she wants it, even after a 20 miles training session. :)
            The 200 back is her baby race.
            She has just used it today as a warm-up for the 100 free.
            She’s a very smart girl.

          • [email protected] says:

            Not smart enough to win either race, if you’re right about her strategy. 200 meter back is her baby race, 200 yard back is Pelton’s baby, so far.

          • liquidassets81 says:

            You may be underestimating what a 4:34 500 and 1:41.4 200
            can do to the legs when you have a kick like Franklins. 2Back was
            my favorite event but it’s murder on the legs.

          • Flyin' says:

            Yeah, I’m inclined to agree with Bobo, Franklin swam a 1:51 when she was 14. She’s the world record holder in this event, I don’t think that was everything she had. Also, as a swimmer, when you’re having a great meet, you don’t have one randomly not so great swim.

    • Annie says:

      Bobo, I always look forward to reading your insightful and fair comments. This remark, however, puzzled me. Having watched Missy since 2009, surely you realize that she never holds back. I heard from Cal people that the women’s team had NO rest for this meet and has been training hard! I also heard a rumor from Cal parents that she had been ill this week. The women were all exhausted on Saturday but were able to “bring it” in their events. I would respectfully suggest that Missy did her best in the 200 Back with what she had in her tank. As you know, this is a grueling event. She looked tired and it was amazing that she went fast enough to get that A cut. Fortunately she had a break before her 100 Free and relay duty and was able to perform well. I too have watched Missy since 2009. I was not “disappointed” but in fact pleasantly surprised to see how well she performed at this time of the year. She competed hard and earned that High Point award with her 5 individual and 3 relay events. Bobo, I do hope you will give her some slack and continue to support her.

      • ERVINFORTHEWIN says:

        I would add to what u said rightfully that we can’t forget Missy is the only swimmer to have brought back 6 golds from Barcelona ; An impressive bunch of amazing swims and she is still doing great at Cal 4 months later . She is unstoppable

  17. bobo gigi says:

    Great 200 back for Vyatchanin in 1.37.87!
    Murphy far behind in third, even beaten by Pebley.
    1.41 for him. Very weird.
    Is Mr Murphy rested for this meet?

    • [email protected] says:

      No, it’s already been mentioned several times, Cal didn’t rest for this meet. He and Pebley both great times for mid-season.

  18. TheTroubleWithX says:

    Andrew Seliskar won the B final in the 200 back by dropping another two seconds off his prelim swim, for another lifetime best. Backstroke is arguably his weakest stroke. Anyone care to take a guess what he does in the 200 fly tonight? Prelims time was 1:44.42, which ranks him 13th all-time in the 17-18 age group.

    • bobo gigi says:

      Great swim for him.
      If he still has enough gas, perhaps he can swim 1.43 in the 200 fly.

      • TheTroubleWithX says:

        Apparently he had enough gas. :-) I kind of figured he’d break 1:43, but was worried I was being overly optimistic.

      • TheTroubleWithX says:

        Actually, here’s the scarier thing. Fly is his stronger stroke to begin with, and fly is generally faster than back. His 200 fly time tonight was slower than his 200 back time…which suggests to me that if it wasn’t his last event, and an hour after the 200 back, he could swim it 1-2 seconds faster than he did tonight.

        • Eagleswim says:

          Actually in the 200 yard distance backstroke tends to be faster. Backstroke AR is like a 1:36 while fly is 1:39

          • Flyin' says:

            Yeah, I always thought that was weird lol, but I’m a 200 flyer so….

          • TheTroubleWithX says:

            Yeah, I guess I was thinking more 50/100. I stand corrected.

          • aswimfan says:


            Bacstroke is benefited much more than fly in 200 SCY/SCM because of more walls

            Here’s the stats you might want to ponder

            The mens SCM 200 backstroke WR is 1:46.11 by Arkady Vyatchanin, while the SCM 200m butterfly WR 1:48.56 Chad le Clos.

            That’s more that 2 seconds FASTER!

            While the womens SCM 200m backstroke is 2:00.03 by Missy Franklin while the 200m butterfly is 2:00.78 by Liu Zige.

    • Sean S says:

      That swim really jumped out at me from the results. It says rally good things for his future in IM that he can be so strong in his “weakest” stroke.

  19. bobo gigi says:

    As excepted Natalie wins the 100 free.
    47.19 for her.
    Amanda Weir second in 47.37.
    And a not so tired Missy is third in 47.42!
    Perhaps I’m the only one but I’m sure she has kept her energy in the 200 back.

  20. bobo gigi says:

    41.39 for Nathan Adrian in the 100 free!

  21. bobo gigi says:

    Katie Ledecky was back in the water for her warm-down in the 100 free B-Final. :)
    49.18 for her.
    I believe she’s allowed to go to bed now. She deserves a little rest after all these races.

    • bobo gigi says:

      Oh no! She can’t go to bed! She still has a 4X100 free relay with her NCAP teammates! Poor Katie! They want to kill her! :)

  22. bobo gigi says:

    As expected Alia Atkinson wins the 200 breast in 2.06.22.
    She’s really a 100 specialist.

  23. bobo gigi says:

    Every time I watch Carsten Vissering, I see a breaststroke diamond in the making.
    1.56.51 is a new big PB for him in the C-Final.
    Another NCAP talent!

  24. bobo gigi says:

    Claire Donahue is a 100 fly specialist and it’s good she works her endurance in the 200 fly.
    But it was painful to watch her in the last 50. I think her arms were on fire. 33.31 in the last 50. She was completely dead.

  25. bobo gigi says:

    Dylan Bosh wins the 200 fly in 1.41.01.
    Andrew Seliskar is second in 1.42.55. A new big PB after a 200 back! He’s impressive.

  26. bobo gigi says:

    As usual, Missy wins the individual points award.
    Perhaps the first of many for Andrew Seliskar on the men’s side.

    Of course Katie Ledecky wins the performance award.

  27. bobo gigi says:

    And Katie is back in the water for the relay!
    49.38 split.
    I think she will sleep very well tonight.

    Cal A wins the relay in 3.13.45. New meet record.
    Nice 47.86 split for Missy.
    I think she will also sleep very well after all the races she has swum this week.

  28. ACHILLES says:

    42.50 lead-off from Univ of Utah relay. Great meet for the Utes all around.

  29. liquidassets says:

    Cal has a ways to go in the men’s 4×100, but encouraging they could beat Louisville on little rest; better than expected. Great 3 way race though it was too bad that with the camera angle and folks on the deck, you couldn’t much see SwimMac down in lane 8 with Jones’s 42.0; he continues to do better on relays.

    Meanwhile, down in TX, McBroom 14:31, Brandon 1:50.7, Conger 1:40.9, Kasey Carlson continues her upsets, beating Geer 47.2 to 47.3 after upsetting Sogar in the 100 breast yesterday.

  30. liquidassets says:

    Overall besides the AR’s of Thoman, Ledecky, and MAC, I was most impressed with Seliskar and his versatility, winning high point at 17. Already closing in on Kalisz’s 4IM NAG and is an even better breastroker than Kalisz. Let’s see what he can do next summer.

    NCAP in general impressive. I can’t believe that the 17-18 relay women’s 4×100 record from way back in 1981 still survived 32 years later. Sippy Woodhead, Marybeth Linzmeier, Sue Habernigg, all names from the distant past of U.S. Swimming, and the glory days of Mission Viejo, survived the 1-2 punch of Hu and Ledecky. But 2 other records for the NCAP ladies very impressive, especially since there were15 and 16 year olds on the relays!

  31. Sean S says:

    Does anybody know what Katis’ eligibility is looking like?

    • calswimfan says:

      Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but I heard that he will join the Cal men’s team for the spring semester. I also believe he is eligible to swim at the ncaa in march.

      Cal men, even with Katis, has a lot of work to do if they want to bring the title back home this year. Will Hamilton’s 1:43 in the 200 fly event was somewhat encouraging since he was one of the big question marks this season, but they are really going to need every swimmer’s best in march.

  32. gosharks says:

    Seliskar was the most impressive swimmer for me at this meet. Incredible versatility, underwaters, starts, etc. He even split 19 on a few relays. He doesn’t look that tall. Anyone know his height?

    Pelton is just plain better than Franklin in the 200 yard backstroke. It doesn’t mean Franklin is any less of a swimmer.

    Franklin will not swim any backstroke at NCAA’s. She will probably swim a 46 to win the 100 free right after Pelton has won the 200 back.

    • Spieker Backer says:

      Missy’s start and underwaters (in her backstroke) currently works against her in the longer SCY distances (more walls).
      Her natural talent and racing instinct helps to cover up some of this (as we saw in the 100 back last night)
      But it can become too much of a catch up situation when going against the AR holder in the 200 distance!

      I don’t know which Day 3 event makes more sense for her from a team scoring viewpoint (that’s Teri’s job!)
      But I’d prefer Missy save her energy (and legs!) from dueling with Pelton in an uphill struggle for the 200 back title
      Particularly after likely having already raced the 500 & 2 relays on Day 1 + the 200 & 800 FR on Day 2 …

      Would rather see her fresh and ready to lay down some amazing times for the 100 free and the 400 FR on Day 3!
      She can still rule the 200 back in 2014 – @ Pan Pacs, that is ;)

      • bobo gigi says:

        Ok. In my opinion, Missy fully tapered can swim this season 1.47 in the 200 back without great underwaters. Her actual PB is 1.48.42.
        And not too tired, a 46.8 in the 100 free is very likely.
        I don’t like seeing her swim the 500 free on day 1. She will win it but it’s not her event at all and it will take her much energy.
        I would be disappointed as big Missy’s fan if she didn’t swim the 200 back, her baby race, at NCAA’s.
        I understand these championships are a team competition with a points’ race. Team aspect is the most important thing. I know it. I know it.

        Questions for Cal specialists. There are a few ones here on swimswam.
        It looks like Missy’s freestyle looks stronger than ever. Does she work freestyle much more than backstroke in training?
        And about her underwaters on backstroke, I know I must be patient, but when will we see the first effects of the magical training of coach McKeever? I don’t expect too see with her the Cindy Tran’s or Rachel Bootsma’s underwaters but if she could close the gap with those of Liz Pelton, it would be good. I hope Missy works that 24/7 all year! :)

        • duckduckgoose says:

          The Nationals format (men’s races and three tiers of finals) artificially inflates time between finals and enables doubles that won’t be possible at NCAAs. Helps teams get more swimmers qualified early for NCAAs, but it’s not all that relevant as a predictor for March since those doubles likely won’t ever take place.

          The 500 isn’t Missy’s optimal race, but that’s dictated by Cal’s needs. Leah Smith visited Cal the same time as Franklin and she would have freed up Missy to swim another event. Gillian Ryan and Brooke Lorentzen didn’t even visit Cal, but barring a late signing from an international distance swimmer, Franklin’s locked in the 500 free next season too.

          Cal’s loaded in the 100 back (Bootsma, Tran, Klaren, Au) and 200 back (Pelton, Tran, Klaren, Au, Batchelor), so Missy helps the team out better by swimming the 200 and 100 frees instead. That changes next year when Tran and Au graduate, so Pelton may swim the 100 back and Franklin may swim the 200 back. Depends on if Batchelor can become a scorer in the 200 back and if Cierra Runge can score in the 100/200 frees as a freshman.

          Missy may get some technique work done in Hawaii during Cal’s post-Christmas training, but she probably doesn’t get much individual attention until long course season. Teri has 26 swimmers during the NCAA season, but she’ll probably only have 6 swimmers (Vollmer, Leverenz, Missy, Pelton, Li. Bootsma). Coughlin’s training with Dave Durden now. Franklin’s underwaters and starts will be better in 2014-2015, but I wouldn’t expect dramatic improvement there while she’s still swimming NCAAs since she won’t get enough dedicated individual coaching attention.

    • G says:

      Seliskar can’t be more than 5’9″ to 5’10″

  33. bobo gigi says:

    NCAP swimmers have been amazing.
    Katie was the queen but Andrew Seliskar, Janet Hu or Carsten Vissering have all shined as well.
    Look at the Tom Dolan Invitational next week. You will see many other great NCAP young talents.

    About Andrew Seliskar, yes, he’s impressive since last year.
    Big endurance.
    Great turns and underwaters.
    Great versatility.
    Here are his biggest performances from this week.
    1.43 in the 200 IM, 3.41 in the 400 IM, 1.42 in the 200 fly, 1.42 in the 200 back, 53.31 in the 100 breast!
    Remember he has also swum 4.18 last March in the 500 free!
    Perhaps he’s more built for short course, I don’t know, but I don’t forget he has won the 200 fly gold medal at the last world junior championships in long course, so anything is possible with him. In comparison, the other US young talent on IM Gunnar Bentz is much more a long course swimmer.
    Big rivalry to come in the next years between those two guys on IM. :cool:

  34. aswimfan says:

    Which school is Selikar going to next year?

    CAL men will habve a very very difficult time But not possible) to regain the title Michigan won last year. And judging by this meet alone, Michigan men is still the favorite.

    CAL women will win quite easily though.

    • gousa says:

      => “CAL women will win quite easily though.”


      UGA has more depth & balance. Stanford will be a big threat.
      Don’t dismiss TAM & Florida that easily too.

      CAL’s lone quality breaststroker’s unproven in SCY.
      Garcia couldn’t even get an A cut this weekend!
      Relays score double, so both their medleys will be in trouble if they have to use Li.
      Or bring in Kong as a relay swimmer.

      Don’t buy into all the unconfirmed rumors making the rounds that Bears were unrested.
      Too important of a mid season focus meet for them to risk missing cuts for their weaker personnel. They all had Thanksgiving off so that would constitute half a week’s worth of rest at the minimum.

      Stanford women rested 3 days for their invite and Georgia had a day or two for theirs.
      So it’s just the usual posturing tactics employed by most college coaches to psych out their opponents “oh look at how fast we are swimming and we aint even rested at all”

      CAL also has a history of relying on imported foreign talent to mask their weaknesses.
      The better approach would be to cultivate and develop home grown talent.

      They are popular right now because of a certain superstar whose name has some public recognition. But a few individuals no matter how good can’t win NCAAs by themselves. It takes the whole team.

      • #Finally says:

        Thank you for posting this. Completely sick of seeing the
        same 5 people comment about how great Cal is. Anything can happen.
        How about all the DQs that went on this weekend. It takes one relay
        DQ or individual DQ to change everything plus one must factor in

    • calswimfan says:

      Gousa is right in that Cal women won’t get it “easy.” But they have the team to be able to win it in march and of course just like any other team, they’ll have to bring their A game. Nobody will argue against that. What I disagree is that while Missy does get a lot of attention,she is definitely not the only great swimmer. Stanford will be an even bigger threat next season and probably the favorites. UGA is strong as always with TAM coming up close from behind. NCAA will be fun.

      For Cal men, I assume aswimfan tried to say “difficult but not impossible.” And that’s so true. But this was a mid season invite type of meet and part of it was to see where they stand. Hopefully this gets them working hard and ready for march. They still got a decent shot at it.

      • ShattuckAve says:

        Have to agree Furds will be a major force this year. Even more intimidating next year with their incredible class of 2014. Kudos to Meehan and his staff for their recruiting skills + coaching expertise!

        Teri will just have to work her magic and land Ledecky in 2015 for a 2nd recruiting scoop of the decade ;~)

        Besides serving as a counterpunch to LSJU’s superstar class of 2014 and to offset the departure of Franklin from the amateur ranks, Cal really needs a distance stud so why not go for the very best in the world?!

        Assuming Ledecky follows Franklin’s footsteps in wanting to compete in college
        Which isn’t a given at all as it’d make much more financial sense for her to go pro.

        On a more realistic level recruiting in-state studs like Kathryn McLaughlin or Ella Eastin would be sweet. Though I guess distance & breastrokers would get a higher priority.

        With Berkeley’s pipeline to Hong Kong why not go for Siobhan Haughey?
        She’s the current World Juniors champ with a 54.47 in the 100 free which is not far off Wilson’s HK record of 54.35 from the suit era.

        For comparison, incoming Cal recruit Cierra Runge managed a 55.31 at that same meet this summer.

        Haughey holds the HK record for the 50 at 25.38, and has demonstrated some versatility as she is also their national record holder in the 200 & 400 IM, in both SCM & LCM.

        Just indulging in wishful thinking on my part :)

        • duckduckgoose says:

          Teri has to replace Missy, Klaren, Piehl, Bing, Breed, Cheng, and Kong in the 2015 recruiting class. Priorities are: sprinters, middle distance, distance, and back.

          Don’t think Ledecky swims in college, but if she does Stanford, Harvard, Cal, and Michigan will be in the mix.

  35. TheTroubleWithX says:

    He’s only a high school junior.

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