2024 NCAA Men’s Championships: Day 3 Ups/Downs – Florida Closing the Gap with ASU

2024 Men’s NCAA Swimming and Diving Championships

FRIDAY EVENING HEAT SHEETS

For those unfamiliar with swimming terminology, the concept of “Ups” and “Downs” is a good way to track which teams performed best at prelims. In prelims, swimmers qualify for one of two finals heats: the top 8 finishers make the A final, places 9 through 16 the B final. In finals, swimmers are locked into their respective final, meaning a swimmer in the B heat (spots 9-16) can only place as high as 9th or as low as 16th, even if they put up the fastest or slowest time of any heat in the final.

With that in mind, we’ll be tracking “Ups” and “Downs” after each prelims session. “Up” refers to swimmers and divers in the A final, “Down” to B finalists.

Team Scores After Day 2

  1. Arizona St – 201
  2. California – 169
  3. Florida – 161
  4. Indiana – 107
  5. Texas – 106
  6. NC State – 98
  7. Tennessee – 86
  8. Stanford – 84
  9. Auburn – 67
  10. Virginia Tech – 61
  11. Georgia – 57
  12. Michigan – 48
  13. Ohio St – 42
  14. Notre Dame – 39
  15. Louisville – 30
  16. (tie) SMU / Alabama – 26
  17. Texas A&M – 21
  18. Florida St – 20
  19. Missouri – 19
  20. Minnesota – 17
  21. (tie) Arizona / Miami (Fl) – 15
  22. Virginia – 12
  23. Wisconsin – 7
  24. LSU – 6
  25. Purdue – 5
  26. Brigham Young – 3
  27. North Carolina – 2

Florida had a big morning in Indianapolis on Day 3, earning 12 finals spots with scorers in each individual swimming event. The Gators put 2 in the top 8 of the 400 IM and 100 back and 1 in the 100 fly and 100 breast. They also earned B-final places in the 400 IM, 100 fly, 200 free (2), 100 breast, and 100 back. All told, that projects to 122 points before diving and the relay. The Gators are expected to pass Cal and land in second place behind Arizona State tonight.

Arizona State earned finals spots in everything but the 100 breast, including 2 in the top 8 of the 400 IM and 100 back and 1 in the 100 fly. They also picked up 5 B-final spots. Overall, the Sun Devils landed almost exactly where they were seeded, and are expected to maintain their lead over the field tonight.

Cal had 5 up and 4 down and will score in every swimming event, earning 40 more points than the psych sheet would have indicated. Four Golden Bears (2 up, 2 down) will make up 25% of the finalists in the 200 free.

Indiana had a big morning, earning A final spots in everything but the 400 IM. NC State, battling the Hoosiers for #4 in the team rankings earned 2 spots in the 100 fly A final and 1 in the 100 back, but Indiana is likely to pick up diving points, which haven’t yet been accounted for.

Georgia and Virginia Tech scored 2 A-final spots, while Texas, Stanford, Michigan, Tennessee, Alabama, Notre Dame, and Texas A&M came away with 1 each.

Louisville and Michigan outperformed the psych sheet, as did mid-majors Towson, SMU, and George Washington.

UPDATED AFTER DIVING: Indiana added 2 A-finalists and 1 B-finalist in diving, solidifying their 4th-place team position ahead of NC State. Stanford, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Ohio State, Pitt, and Minnesota also earned spots in the top 8 of the 3-meter, while Texas and Florida each earned B-final places.

Day 3 Ups/Downs

Team All 400 IM 100 Fly 200 Free 100 Breast 100 Back 3m Diving
Florida 6/7 2/1 1/1 0/2 1/1 2/1 0/1
Indiana 6/3 0/0 1/1 1/0 1/1 1/0 2/1
Arizona State 5/5 2/2 1/0 0/2 0/0 2/1 0/0
Cal 5/4 0/1 1/0 2/2 1/0 1/1 0/0
NC State 3/4 0/1 2/2 0/0 0/0 1/1 0/0
Stanford 2/1 0/0 0/0 0/1 1/0 0/0 1/0
Georgia 2/1 1/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 1/0 0/0
Tennessee 2/1 0/0 0/0 1/0 0/1 0/0 1/0
Texas A&M 2/1 1/0 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 1/0
Virginia Tech 2/1 0/0 1/0 0/0 1/1 0/0 0/0
Ohio State 2/0 1/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 1/0
Louisville 2/0 0/0 0/0 1/0 1/0 0/0 0/0
Texas 1/4 0/0 0/0 1/0 0/1 0/1 0/2
Michigan 1/1 0/0 1/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0
Alabama 1/1 0/0 0/0 1/1 0/0 0/0 0/0
Notre Dame 1/1 0/0 0/0 1/0 0/0 0/1 0/0
Towson 1/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 1/0 0/0 0/0
Pittsburgh 1/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 1/0
Minnesota 1/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 1/0
Virginia 1/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 1/0 0/0 0/0
SMU 1/0 1/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0
Auburn 0/2 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/1 0/0
Penn State 0/2 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/1 0/1 0/0
LSU 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/1
Wisconsin 0/1 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0
BYU 0/1 0/0 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0
USC 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/1
George Washington 0/1 0/0 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0
North Carolina 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/1
Florida State 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/1 0/0 0/0
Miami (FL) 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/1
Utah 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/1 0/0 0/0

Scoring Day 3 Prelims

Team All Difference vs Seed 400 IM 100 Fly 200 Free 100 Breast 100 Back 3m Diving
Florida 125 -14 32 24 15 24 27 3
Cal 99 40 6 14 32 20 27 0
Arizona State 98 -0.5 42 15 8 0 33 0
Indiana 94 21 0 18 13 14 12 37
NC State 56 6 1 35 0 0 20 0
Texas 46 -1.5 0 0 20 6 9 11
Stanford 44 -24 0 0 7 17 0 20
Georgia 38 -16 22 0 0 0 16 0
Tennessee 33 -5.5 0 0 16 5 0 12
Ohio State 28 6 15 0 0 0 0 13
Texas A&M 28 -13 14 3 0 0 0 11
Virginia Tech 28 -5 0 13 0 15 0 0
Louisville 23 7 0 0 11 12 0 0
Michigan 21 9 0 21 0 0 0 0
Alabama 19 -3.5 0 0 19 0 0 0
Notre Dame 19 1.5 0 0 14 0 5 0
Towson 16 13.5 0 0 0 16 0 0
Pittsburgh 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 15
Minnesota 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 14
Virginia 14 -4.5 0 0 0 14 0 0
SMU 11 5 11 0 0 0 0 0
Auburn 9 -1.5 5 0 0 0 4 0
Penn State 9 -4 0 0 0 7 2 0
LSU 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 7
Wisconsin 7 7 7 0 0 0 0 0
BYU 6 -3 0 6 0 0 0 0
USC 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 6
George Washington 6 6 0 6 0 0 0 0
North Carolina 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 5
Florida State 4 -10 0 0 0 4 0 0
Miami (FL) 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
Utah 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0

Projected Day 3 Scores

Team Day 2 Actual Day 3 Prelims 400 Medley Relay by Seed Day 3 Projected Rank
Arizona State 201 98 40 339
Florida 161 125 34 320
Cal 169 99 30 298
Indiana 107 94 28 229
NC State 98 56 26 180
Texas 106 46 6 158
Tennessee 86 33 32 151
Stanford 84 44 14 142
Virginia Tech 61 28 24 113
Georgia 57 38 2 97
Michigan 48 21 22 91
Auburn 67 9 12 88
Notre Dame 39 19 18 76
Ohio State 42 28 0 70
Louisville 30 23 8 61
Texas A&M 21 28 4 53
Alabama 26 19 0 45
SMU 26 11 0 37
Virginia 12 14 10 36
Minnesota 17 14 0 31
Florida State 20 4 0 24
Missouri 19 0 0 19
Miami (FL) 15 1 0 16
Towson 0 16 0 16
Arizona 15 0 0 15
Pittsburgh 0 15 0 15
Wisconsin 7 7 0 14
LSU 6 7 0 13
BYU 3 6 0 9
Penn State 0 9 0 9
North Carolina 2 5 0 7
USC 0 6 0 6
George Washington 0 6 0 6
Purdue 5 0 0 5
Utah 0 1 0 1

 

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Miself
1 month ago

ASU with the W kos 43.5, Marchand 49.0, kharun 43.5, and kulow shocks the world with a 39.99
2:55.99

Oldmanswimmer
1 month ago

Your medley relay by seed is from a different relay, not the 400 Medley. I think you used the 200 free relay.

Last edited 1 month ago by Oldmanswimmer
Apiarist
1 month ago

Are those projections for the 400 medley relay correct? I thought asu was top seed so shouldn’t they be projected 40 points?

Weinstein-Smith-Ledecky-Sims
1 month ago

The University of Texas men’s swimming program is relegated to mediocrity. The end of an era.

Emma Eckean
1 month ago

I wanted Arizona to win the title…
Did they ever win the title in the school’s history?
Marchand deserves it

Andrew
Reply to  Emma Eckean
1 month ago

Arizona and Arizona State are two different schools little bro. Ironically enough they’re on completely different trajectories as a program.

Emma Eckean
Reply to  Andrew
1 month ago

Sorry…I wanted to say Arizona state

Foreign Embassy
Reply to  Emma Eckean
1 month ago

You mean Arizona state

aquajosh
1 month ago

Diving: Of the Top 5, Texas got 2 down, Indiana got 2 up 1 down, and Florida got 1 down.

UF 6/7
Indiana 6/3
Texas 1/4

Weinstein-Smith-Ledecky-Sims
1 month ago

According to the projections, the fat lady has NOT sung.

96Swim
1 month ago

Decent chance FL is in the lead after tonight, especially if they win the relay, which seems quite possible after last two nights. If you flip the relay projection to UF 1 and ASU 2, that’s a 12 point swing on the above and UF only needs to pick up 10 net points over seed in order to take the lead. They may get a few points from diving (one of their divers was in 16th through 5 rounds of prelim diving). With the 8th and 16th seeds in backstroke, decent chance they improve a bit on the projections. Big decisions will be who swims back and breast on relays.

jp input is too short
Reply to  96Swim
1 month ago

I don’t know when relay cards are due, but if they’re due before the individual events, I’d guess you have to go Chaney and Smith – they’ve got the track record of stepping up an extra step on relays, especially Chaney who typically goes even faster 100 back on the 400MR than his individual. IMO ASU has a more interesting decision on backstroke.

96Swim
Reply to  jp input is too short
1 month ago

Looking at prelims again, I think Cal is probably the favorite to win the relay. They probably pick up close to a second on BK/Br over UF, and Rose won’t lose to Liendo by that much. And then you have Alexy (I assume) v. probably McDuff in the free and that should favor Cal. Unless Marchand does something absolutely nuts like has the best breast split by 1.5 sec or more, I think it is Cal – UF – ASU. But really those three could be in any order. Those three teams could all be within 20 of each other going into tomorrow.

relay, relay
Reply to  96Swim
1 month ago

Alexy swam both relays the first night; swam the 4×50 free last night; he’s only go one remaining spot to ‘relay.’ They clearly need him on the 4×100 free. Most handicappers I saw suggested it would be Lasco and Seeliger on the back and free legs, not Alexy anchoring. Actually Lasco and Seeliger could go either way as both are great back/free sprint contributors.

swim6847
Reply to  96Swim
1 month ago

I think it’ll be Lasco/Bell/Rose/Seeliger for Cal (Alexy has already been on 3 relays and I highly doubt they’ll leave him off the 400 free relay), Chaney/Savickas/Liendo/McDuff for Florida (Smith is probably the better choice for breaststroke but like Alexy has already swum 3 relays and will likely be needed on the 400 free relay tomorrow), and for ASU Marchand/Kharun/Kulow is a lock for the final 3 legs and the choice between McDonald and Kos will probably be a last second decision (my bet is on McDonald)

chickenlamp
Reply to  swim6847
1 month ago

Florida might be better off having Smith scratch the individual 100 free tomorrow (he’s not seeded to score) and having him 5-relay it. They do have Ed Fullum-Huot as an option in the 400 free relay, but his flat start PB is 42.38 vs 41.98 for Smith

Friuti
Reply to  96Swim
1 month ago

Alexy is probably not on the Medley tonight, I would bet this is the one he skips, so they’ll have bjorn anchor.

jp input is too short
Reply to  96Swim
1 month ago

As much as I like what Rose did this morning, I think Liendo blasts something like a 42.2 and Rose goes around 44.0, and I think Chaney/Smith are closer to Lasco/Bell than you expect. And I would bet they don’t use Alexy on this one to save him for the 400 FR – as good as Seeliger can be, he isn’t quite the anchor Jack is.

CosPac
Reply to  96Swim
1 month ago

Cal can’t swim Alexy if they want to use him for the last relay tomorrow.

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