Indiana vs. Texas
- Nov. 1, 2024
- Austin, Texas
- 25 Yards (SCY)
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After a historically fast dual meet in Austin, Ray Looze admitted that his Hoosiers got what they came for (which was top-level racing) but they have a lot to work on moving forward.
We’ve seen in-season swimming have an explosion in recent seasons, seeing times in October and early November that we didn’t used to see until conference championships in February and March. While Ray Looze values suiting up and racing in November, he does note that “you can only go to the well so many times”, indicating that his team is still very much focused on their results at the end of the season.
Does that line about not going any faster the rest of the year go on the locker room whiteboard or the back of a T-shirt?
Brian Benzing
They got what they came for, which was the L
So if I’m reading this statement correctly, Looze is alluding to that he thinks his team will be better prepared come Championship season. Well good news for us fans, swimming is a timed sport and we will know exactly where those chips fall in just a few short months!
I’m here for all this silly coaching squabbles (U of Cincy as well). The best part of our sport is that the scoreboard doesn’t lie so at the end of the season we can all do a nice little evaluation
Or we could look at previous years results and realize that this complaining is all pointless and already disproven over and over again……..
Ray is definitely right about this and it’s the very reason that many athletes, regardless of talent, don’t improve their high school times in college. The coaches that continue to have their swimmers suit up and rest for in season dual meets or invitationals so they look good to their athletic directors are killing the college coaching profession…
I’m confused, because “the coaches” include “Bob Bowman” and “their swimmers” include “the NCAA Championship winning men’s team and a whole bunch of Olympic medalists in Paris.”
Ditto, but Todd DeSorbo.
The two NCAA Championship winning teams last season, and the United States’ two most successful programs at the Olympics, both swam fast a lot last season, and both suited up a lot last season.
Hey, the 1980s called and wants their coaching philosophy back.
Even without new NCAA swimming survival concerns, the “swim fast once per season” mentality has always been the WORST thing about our sport in terms of athlete satisfaction and retention. In a challenging NCAA environment making 90% of the meets slow and meaningless might be fatal for college swimming.
Name 1 college coach that does this? Name 1 that prioritizes looking good for AD’s as opposed to prioritizing long term development for their swimmers.
Traditional coaches bury their swimmers in work and only the strongest survive.
You’re telling an athlete that you’re only able to swim fast a few times a year.
As Braden Points out. De Sorbo and Bowman amongst others would suggest otherwise. Racing fast is fun, being destroyed by your coaches week in and week out because you’re “training” and developing a base isn’t. There are points where that training is beneficial but not year round.
Bizarre statement that some of the swimmers there won’t go faster the rest of the season. Is he suggesting the Texas actually rested for this meet?
An Indiana swimmer dropped that in the comments after the loss so seems to be the team’s takeaway from the meet?
Weirdos
The objective is to build throughout the NCAA Season and to peak at the NCAA DI Swimming & Diving Championships. This isn’t rocket science. The exception would be the athletes participating in the Short Course World Championships scheduled from 10 Dec 2024 thru 15 Dec 2024.
this is the philosophy that drives people away from the sport. Training for one meet a year is f*ing demoralizing. I would have had so much more fun in my career if the focus had been on swimming fast all the time. And based on empirical data we’re seeing from ASU, UVA, etc, going fast all the time makes you faster at the end of the year too
Agree. You tell a swimmer your value and opportunity to perform is once or twice a year. You better be ready for those few races you do twice a year. Ridiculous belief that the old guard continues to stick to. You see it in the comments, you see it in the downvotes. Inability to understand physiology and training methodology.
“I had to do 5 – 7km every workout and needed a 6 week taper, that means everyone needs to”
Can’t reason with the emotional crowd. They wouldn’t know empirical data if it landed on their lap.
Somewhat related – does anyone know where Chris Guiliano might show up for the spring semester? IU makes a lot of sense being relatively close to Notre Dame. Texas on the other hand, if they were to land him that would take them into the chat about a national title. I don’t it gets them all the way there but with Bowman knowing how to add a midseason international it would create a very interesting situation. Maybe Bowman chats up donors for one semester of Guiliano? Flex those donor muscles early
What schools is he actually looking at?
There’s have been two very strong rumors going around. Both have been valid (though different), and I think right now it all comes down to who can make the logistics work. Neither is Texas. A new one has popped up in the last week and the coach said that the intent is true, but they haven’t confirmed that it was going to work.
Him being a senior is what makes this complicated. If he were a sophomore, I think we’d already know where he’s going, but academically, the system isn’t built for students to transfer 3.5 years into a degree.
IU makes sense. Outside of the box, Louisville with the coaching ties and relatively close proximity could possibly be a route.
To have IU on your actual diploma after 3.5 years at Notre Dame is a pretty big come down.
He kind of has two options:
Graduate real quick from ND
or
Go somewhere else for his last semester of eligibility and return to ND to graduate.
I wouldn’t discount the latter.
Hmm, yeah it’s not like his credits disappear from Notre Dame if he takes some meaningless classes at another school for a semester. Has that happened before?
Cal and Indiana.