2019 ACC Swimming & Diving Championships (W): Day 4 Up/Down/Mids

by Maclin Simpson 40

February 23rd, 2019 ACC, College, News

2019 ACC WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIPS

Just as they did on day 3, the UVA women came out swinging in Saturday’s prelims – racking up a total of 18 finals swims in the 4 contested events (8 in A finals, 7 in B, 3 in C). Most notably was the 200 back, where Cavaliers took the top 3 spots and 4 of the top 6. Crucial to the team battle, NC State picked up a total of 14 finals swims (8 in A finals, 4 in B, 2 in C).

Coming into the final day, NC State led Virginia 886 points to 867 points. If finals were to score out exactly as prelims (which, of course, they won’t) and the mile scores out exactly as seeded (which, of course, it won’t), NC State would be leading with 1,246.5 points to Virginia’s 1,211.5 points before diving and the 400 free relay. Virginia scored 53 points on the 3-meter and NC State scored none, while NC State is the favorite in the relay. The result is a veritable coin-flip, where Saturday night’s performance, rather than Saturday morning’s as is the case with most meets, decide the winner.

Virginia did have some big opportunities on Saturday morning, but in 5 races they had 2 swimmers finish 9th and 2 finish 17th: each one spot from locking into the higher-scoring final.

Louisville actually secured more finals swims than NC State with 15 (6 in A finals, 5 in B, 4 in C), but they are firmly secured in 3rd place in the team battle.

For those unfamiliar with swimming terminology, the concept of “Ups” and “Downs” is a good way to track which teams performed best at prelims. In prelims, swimmers qualify for one of three finals heats: the top 8 finishers make the A final, places 9 through 16 the B final and places 17 through 24 the C final. In finals, swimmers are locked into their respective final, meaning a swimmer in the B heat (spots 9-16) can only place as high as 9th or as low as 16th, even if they put up the fastest or slowest time of any heat in the final.

With that in mind, we’ll be tracking “Ups,” “Mids” and “Downs” after each prelims session. “Up” refers to swimmers in the A final, “Mid” to swimmers in the B final and “Down” to swimmers in the C final.

Note: the figures below have not been updated to reflect diving and the 1,650 free.

Up/Mid/Downs

200 Back 100 Free 200 Breast 200 Fly
Team Up Mid Down Team Up Mid Down Team Up Mid Down Team Up Mid Down
Virginia 4 1 1 Virginia 2 1 1 Virginia 1 4 0 Virginia 1 1 1
NC State 3 1 0 NC State 1 0 1 NC State 3 1 1 NC State 1 2 0
Louisville 0 1 1 Louisville 2 2 1 Louisville 2 1 1 Louisville 2 1 1
Notre Dame 0 3 0 Notre Dame 1 1 2 Notre Dame 0 0 1 Notre Dame 2 0 0
UNC 0 0 0 UNC 0 2 1 UNC 1 1 0 UNC 1 0 1
Duke 1 0 1 Duke 0 0 1 Duke 0 0 1 Duke 1 2 0
Florida State 0 0 2 Florida State 0 2 0 Florida State 1 1 1 Florida State 0 1 3
Virginia Tech 0 1 1 Virginia Tech 1 0 1 Virginia Tech 0 0 0 Virginia Tech 0 0 1
Georgia Tech 0 0 1 Georgia Tech 1 0 0 Georgia Tech 0 0 2 Georgia Tech 0 0 1
Pittsburgh 0 1 1 Pittsburgh 0 0 0 Pittsburgh 0 0 0 Pittsburgh 0 1 0
Miami (FL) 0 0 0 Miami (FL) 0 0 0 Miami (FL) 0 0 1 Miami (FL) 0 0 0
Total 8 8 8 Total 8 8 8 Total 8 8 8 Total 8 8 8

Totals

Team Up Mid Down
Virginia 8 7 3
NC State 8 4 2
Louisville 6 5 4
Notre Dame 3 4 3
UNC 2 3 2
Duke 2 2 3
Florida State 1 4 6
Virginia Tech 1 1 3
Georgia Tech 1 0 4
Pittsburgh 0 2 1
Miami (FL) 0 0 1
Total 32 32 32

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Mark Rauterkus
5 years ago

Typo: Sunday??? Mention in the first statement.

Packoastie
5 years ago

UVA put up a great fight, but barring any major dq’s this one is over

Wolf cub
5 years ago

Funny, this article is written as if it’s UVAs meet to lose, as if they are in the lead. They never led. I’ve been watching the score board and NC STATE has consistently been on top. Also very misleading to show UVA and NC STATE 8 each for A finals tonight, when clearly even though it hasn’t been swum NC STATE has 3 in the 1650 A final. And Summer Finke will definitely score in the B final and maybe the A. Now that diving prelims are done here is the real A/B/C’s breakdown:

NC STATE 12/5/2
UVA 8/7/3
LOU 6/5/4

The Wolfpack women have fought every event, everyday and been the champions on the day each day… Read more »

ChompChomp
Reply to  Wolf cub
5 years ago

It was UVA’s meet to lose, and they lost it when their divers choked. What’s your point?

Man, NC State’s only been good for like a minute and their fans are already as obnoxious as Texas and Florida and UVA fans. Why can’t good teams have good fans too?

Silent Observer
Reply to  Wolf cub
5 years ago

I think the written intent was to express it’s their repeat title to lose… Not to under sell the work the pack women have been putting in each session to regain the title after their loss last season.

Side note. I was curious why some of their top talent were scratching races. I figured it was due to event caps /swimmer roster caps

SwimGeek
Reply to  Silent Observer
5 years ago

Swimmers are limited to 3 indv. events / 4 relays (or 2 indv/ 5 relays). Versatile swimmers will be entered in more than 3 events — sometimes a LOT more. That’s the psyche sheet.
Then, before the session starts, the coach decides what events that swimmer will actually race — based on seeding, strategy, how the swimmer is doing in other events.
Yes, they’re scratching in a technical sense, but it’s expected and required b/c of the event caps.

Isaac
5 years ago

Diving:
UVA: 10,18, 29
State: 4, 19, 22
!!!!!

NCSUswim
Reply to  Isaac
5 years ago

Perfect

Wolf cub
Reply to  Isaac
5 years ago

Where are diving results?

SwimGeek
Reply to  Isaac
5 years ago

oh wow. It’s over

Wahoowah
Reply to  SwimGeek
5 years ago

Has anyone scored this out with diving and mile included?

SwimGeek
Reply to  Wahoowah
5 years ago

Yes — see the article above. On paper — it was NCST +35 without diving and relay. Had UVA gone +53 like 3m-diving, it would have been a very tight outcome. But not only did UVA not gain in diving — they actually lost 1m-diving by 11 pts. So they are effectively 46 pts behind on paper without the relay. And most likely UVA won’t maintain their paper pts b/c of a lot of 9th and 17th place seeds tonight.

My guess is NCST wins the meet by 60 pts. Good meet overall, and UVA has a terrific class coming in next year doesn’t have a lot of big graduations.

Silent Observer
Reply to  SwimGeek
5 years ago

Both NCState and UVA don’t have big graduations. I think there has only been 1 senior on either of their relays.

Elise Haan is the only one that is coming to mind, which STATE has up and comers to fill her shoes as well.

Very, very, very exciting times for women swimming & diving in the ACC

samuel huntington
Reply to  Silent Observer
5 years ago

agreed. Both teams will be back next year and hopefully the indefinite future!

SwimGeek
Reply to  Silent Observer
5 years ago

UVA brings in Kate Douglass; Ella Nelson; Maddie Donohoe; Lexi Cuomo. Major impact across the meet. NCST brings in Katharine Berkoff who will be an excellent replacement (and then some) for Elise Hahn. She will will be the favorite to win ACCs in both backstrokes as soon as she arrives.

Silent Observer
Reply to  SwimGeek
5 years ago

That then bodes the question… What does Louisville have in the pipe to replace this year’s senior class? I will admit, I havn’t paid attention to their recruiting…

Fingers crossed the ACC doesn’t stay relevant on solely the backs of just UVA & NCState. Makes it more interesting to have 3 or 4 teams duking it out for the top conference spot

swimmerTX
Reply to  Silent Observer
5 years ago

Louisville brings in Jr. National champ and sprinter Christiana Regenauer

Admin
Reply to  Wahoowah
5 years ago

That’s basically laid out above…

samuel huntington
5 years ago

ouch, UVA finishing 10th and 18th in diving. That’s 24 points. Looks like NC State has it.

Oldswimfan
Reply to  samuel huntington
5 years ago

NC State has 1 in the A for diving. Wow this is going to be close tonight.

Swammer
Reply to  samuel huntington
5 years ago

Where did you find diving results from today? I didn’t think they were over yet. Who placed top 8?

Lovethemile
Reply to  Swammer
5 years ago

You can find all the diving results on divemeets.com.

SwimGeek
Reply to  samuel huntington
5 years ago

Ouch indeed. And anything for NCST?

Curious Bystander
5 years ago

Why is N.C. State considered the favorite in the 400 Free? I would have guessed UVA would be the favorite in the 400 Free Relay given the performance of their swimmers in the 100 Free relative to N.C. State. UVA with 2 As, 1 B, and 1 C, versus 1A and 1C for N.C. State

Silent Observer
Reply to  Curious Bystander
5 years ago

Just like the 200 free relay. 2-3 of NCState’s A lineup are threats in multiple strokes and events. So they are scoring in other races, than the 100 free. But will swim the relay

SwimGeek
Reply to  Silent Observer
5 years ago

Agreed with all that on why they are the favorite. But one thing working against NCST is that Kylee Alons — who was :21 in the 50 and a big part of their sprint free relays — also swims the 200 fly (which happens about 45 min before the final relay). Tough double on the last night of the championship schedule

Retired Swamme
Reply to  Curious Bystander
5 years ago

Because they are the fastest relay

B1G fan
5 years ago

Is the mile considered in these up and downs?

Swimgeek
5 years ago

When does diving 1M prelims happen? Now?