WOWSA, MSF Disagree on Nyad Swim Ratification Ahead of Upcoming Biopic

by Riley Overend 27

September 11th, 2023 News, Open Water

The two most prominent organizations in open water swimming — the World Open Water Swimming Association (WOWSA) and the Marathon Swimmers Federation (MSF) — seem to be at odds about whether to ratify Diana Nyad’s Cuba-to-Florida crossing in the “assisted” category ahead of the upcoming ‘Nyad’ biopic hitting Netflix on Nov. 3.

Both organizations agree that Nyad’s 110-mile journey shouldn’t count as an unassisted swim because the then-64-year-old didn’t follow English Channel rules (wearing a stinger suit for protection from jellyfish, for example) and was touched by crew members at times throughout the 53-hour trek. But since an extensive 2022 analysis of the swim found no evidence of cheating, MSF believes it should fall in the “assisted” category. Meanwhile, WOWSA argues that there are too many lingering questions related to a “nine-hour gap in the logs, …the absence of photo/video evidence and inconsistencies in crew statements” to offer any ratification.

For the past decade, Nyad only sought ratification in the “unassisted” category, but last month she told the LA Times that she would now accept the “assisted” stamp of ratification. Then a couple weeks later, WOWSA released its Sept. 9 ruling denying ratification as either an assisted or unassisted swim. Nyad’s swim was removed from the Guinness Book of Records database after WOWSA flagged its lack of official ratification.

“The suggestion was made, following the undertaking of the swim, that the swim had been completed in conformity with rules and procedures promulgated by an organization, the Florida Straits Open Water Swimming Association (FSOWSA), which did not formally exist at the time of the swim,” WOWSA CEO Quinn Fitzgerald wrote. “Additionally, there were contradictory statements from crew members during critical hours when observer logs lacked entries for over 9 hours.

“After careful consideration and review, members of the WOWSA Advisory Board have decided to deny the ratification of Diana Nyad’s record attempt for the swim from Cuba to Florida in 2013.”

MSF co-founder Evan Morrison claims that WOWSA is denying Nyad’s ratification to “generate controversy” and “clicks” two months before the major motion picture featuring Annette Bening and Jodie Foster.

“MSF has not traditionally considered Assisted swims for ratification, but since the new WOWSA owner is using Diana’s lack of official ratification as a cudgel to target her listing in Guinness World Records and generate further controversy (read: clicks), we may reconsider this policy,” Morrison wrote. “What the new WOWSA management doesn’t seem to understand, since they weren’t around at the time, is that in 2013, there was no system of ratification for independent solo swims, or generally accepted standards of documentation.

“Is it fair to hold Diana accountable to standards that shifted beneath her feet in the years following her swim?” Morrison continued. “In any case, if 2023-style ratification is what will help the sport move on from this unrelenting embarrassing debacle, then let’s define an appropriate category and ratify it.”

Fitzgerald called the accusations “surprising and baseless.”

“38 members of our advisory board took time out of their lives to review all the documentation from the swim,” Fitzgerald said. “The resulting statement reflects our focus on upholding the sport’s integrity.

“In 2022, Evan Morrison was supportive of our efforts to locate the documentation which led to our comprehensive report,” he added. “The 2022 Nyad report not only brought clarity to the issue but also fostered a potential collaboration between MSF and WOWSA on rules. Our efforts, especially under new management, were fostering a working relationship between MSF and WOWSA. The recent accusations by Evan Morrison are both surprising and baseless, given our concerted efforts to bring clarity and resolution to this long-standing issue.”

WOWSA advised Netflix to include a disclaimer emphasizing the film’s dramatized nature, but the recent trailer still markets the movie as an “extraordinary true story.” WOWSA founder Steven Munatones served as an advisor for ‘Nyad,’ but he split from the organization as part of a vague restructuring earlier this year, leaving Fitzgerald in charge.

In spite of their disagreement, both parties seem to have the same goal: bring closure to a saga that has dominated the conversation in marathon swimming for a decade.

‘Nyad’ is the first scripted feature directed by Jimmy Chin and Elizabeth Chai Vasarhelyi, the Oscar-winning team behind Free Solo (2018). The pair said they looked into criticisms of the swim and found that they were not valid.

“Our film is not about a record,” Varsarhelyi told the LA Times. “Our film is not about how many times someone was touched. It’s about how a woman woke up at 60 and realized she wasn’t finished, even though the world may be finished with her.”

Ratification aside, Nyad’s swim was still a first. Walter Poenisch was the first to successfully complete the Cuba-to-Florida crossing with a shark cage and fins, Susie Maroney became the first to achieve the feat without fins, and Nyad became the first to do so without a shark cage.

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Susan
7 months ago

Offering another perspective for those who are interested
https://susansimmons.ca/2023/09/12/in-a-world-full-of-heroes-be-your-own-shero/

M D E
Reply to  Susan
7 months ago

It uses a flawed premise.

Nyads swim isn’t doubted because she is disliked.

Her swim so obviously has flaws and this has lead to her being disliked.

Heidi George
7 months ago

Why are we even talking about Nyad who is not faster than your average lap swimmer when Andreas Waschberger broke the English Channel Record by almost 10 minutes in the past week?

Pete
7 months ago

Mr. Morrison’s recent actions are perplexing. Having been a forum member for years, I recall this swim being flagged long ago. MSF’s foundation is unassisted swims. If Mr. Morrison is altering his position just weeks prior to the movie release, it casts more doubt on him than on WOWSA. One must question who is truly seeking the spotlight.

Admin
Reply to  Pete
7 months ago

Here’s my take on it:

I think both dudes want it to be put to bed. I think they both want the sport to move forward out of the shadow of Nyad. They just are taking an opposite tact on how to accomplish that. I think Morrison is positing that giving it a certain designation/ratificaion based on what can be proven will do that. I think WOWSA is positing that reviewing all available information and denying ratification will do that.

I don’t think either is purely making their stand exclusively for the publicity benefit of attention on their organizations. I can’t say that neither is receiving publicity for their organizations, but I don’t get the feeling that this is the… Read more »

Daniel Slosberg
Reply to  Braden Keith
7 months ago

Can you explain where you’re getting that the disagreement involves two dudes? As I understand it, the dispute involves an organization (WOWSA) and one dude, Evan Morrison. WOWSA convened its advisory board to look at the data and decide whether or not to ratify Nyad’s crossing. Morrison posted an open letter stating his position on Nyad’s crossing.

He later wrote on Facebook that the letter represented “my personal view only.” His organization, the Marathon Swimmers Federation (MSF), hasn’t issued a statement. MSF has a core group that would presumably be involved… Read more »

Pool Noodle
Reply to  Daniel Slosberg
7 months ago

It seems to me that Mr. Slosberg has a strong feeling about the legitimacy of NYAD. So, I ask this questions to Mr. Slosberg:

Do YOU think Diana did the swim or not? I am not talking about ratification, I am talking about a performance/completion. Do you think the 40 people on the boat – and those on her dry land operations team – are purposely covering up a fraudulant swim? please confirm because as I have researched this swim and there are physicians, scientists, accountants and other volunteers who vouched for this swim and I am sure they would like to see your accusations publicly.

Daniel Slosberg
Reply to  Pool Noodle
7 months ago

  1. No, I do not believe Diana Nyad completed the swim under her own power.
  2. No, I do not believe 40 people are covering up a fraudulent swim.
  3. BONUS ANSWERS: I do believe a handful of people are covering up a fraudulent swim. And I do believe that the 40-People (or 44) Wouldn’t Cover Up A Fraudulent Swim statement is a favorite straw man Nyad apologists like to deploy when it suits them.

As I’ve frequently said, it would only have taken a handful of people to help Nyad do whatever she did in the Florida Strait. Mr. or Ms. Anonymous Pool Noodle, my accusations and my name have been public since 2017. See

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Pool Noodle

Just read every word of your nyadfactcheck…

you are definitely obsessed with her accomplishments and rely on her success to amply your own achievements (though mediocre)

here is one for you… let’s talk about the abuse from one of her former coaches in Florida. He was a monster …do me/us a favor and go check those facts!!!

Daniel Slosberg
Reply to  Pool Noodle
7 months ago

Glad you read the whole thing.

However, when an anonymous poster starts attacking me personally instead of addressing the facts, they show me they’re not interested in a rational argument.

Pool Noodle
Reply to  Daniel Slosberg
7 months ago

No comment on the sexual abuse of her former coach? Hmmmm

Daniel Slosberg
Reply to  Pool Noodle
7 months ago

Like I said, Steven — when an anonymous poster starts attacking me personally instead of addressing the facts, they show me they’re not interested in a rational argument.

C S
Reply to  Braden Keith
7 months ago

In all my years of open water swimming, never come across a situation where 38 folks had to go over some paperwork. It took that many to finally close out this 10 year drama. This isn’t 2 dudes. It’s one guy spitting words and 38 diving into data..Morrison, maybe it’s time to put your money where your swim cap is and ratify it yourself.

M D E
7 months ago

“They are only refusing to ratify the swim with significant recording issues in an effort to drum up controversy and draw attention to themselves.

Also, we think that if we can’t ratify it we should just make up a whole new category for it, but this isn’t just us trying to draw attention to ourselves, we promise.”

Charles
7 months ago

I think this article is a bit misleading. My understanding is the Mr. Morrison explicitly stated that this was his personal opinion and not necessarily the opinion of MSF. Whereas, WOWSA, was very clear that they took a thorough look at the swim, and as an organization made up of some of the most accomplished folks in the log distance swim world, chose not to ratify the swim based on the facts at hand.

Jonathan
7 months ago

Given how much Diana Nyad has repeatedly lied about her accomplishments, I don’t think she deserves the benefit of the doubt here.

Everything she says and does is in pursuit of publicity and the financial windfall she gains from it.

Daniel Slosberg
7 months ago

It’s not true that the Marathon Swimmers Federation (MSF) believes Nyad’s swim should be ratified. All I’ve heard is that Evan Morrison believes it should. The MSF has issued no statement about the swim. At this point, it’s Morrison’s personal opinion.

An analysis of the swim found no cheating

Years and years of analyses of Lance Armstrong’s urine found no doping, but that didn’t mean he wasn’t.

Morrison used to say that “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.” For some reason, he’s now satisfied with extraordinarily large amounts of inferior evidence.

Pool Noodle
Reply to  Daniel Slosberg
7 months ago

You seem to have a personal vendetta against NYAD,,,
it’s cool that being a “blog troll” seems to be where you feel most influential.
good luck

Bignowhere
7 months ago

About Riley Overend

Riley is an associate editor interested in the stories taking place outside of the pool just as much as the drama between the lane lines. A 2019 graduate of Boston College, he arrived at SwimSwam in April of 2022 after three years as a sports reporter and sports editor at newspapers …

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