Lilly King Admits 200 Breast DQ Call Was Correct: ‘I Definitely Did It’

2019 FINA WORLD AQUATICS CHAMPIONSHIPS

Following a drawn-out saga to determine if she touched did indeed do a non-simultaneous touch on the first wall of her Worlds 200 breast prelims swim, outspoken Olympian Lilly King admitted Friday after seeing video that the disqualification call was correct.

“They made the right call,” King said, according to the Associated Press. “When you saw it in super slo-mo and super zoom, I definitely did it.”

It took about 30 minutes after her race for USA Swimming to find out and announce what King had been called for. The organization filed a protest, which they lost, then took it to FINA’s Jury of Appeal, which also upheld the initial call.

Video review is in use at this meet (only to overturn calls, not to make new ones), and it’s extremely rare for the Jury to overturn a call when that is the case.

“I really appreciate everyone’s effort to try to get it overturned, but it was so over the top,” King added. “I think it would have been very difficult to see with the human eye personally, but I think the official was standing at just the right angle and she got me… The officials are there to do their job and that’s what they did.”

It wouldn’t be Lilly King without a hint of controversy in her response, however. Earlier in the meet, she criticized FINA over its handling of the Sun Yang situation, and supported Mack Horton in his podium protest of the Chinese star.

“I don’t think anyone at FINA is going to stand up for the athletes, so the athletes have to stand up for themselves,” she said at the time.

Thus, she didn’t shut down the conspiracy theory that has briefly circulated – without logical base – that FINA could have been retaliating against her.

“Do I think maybe something I had said about FINA earlier maybe came back to haunt me in the jury? Yeah, probably,” King said, “but I’m still going to stand up for what I believe in and in the end the official made the right call.”

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ArtVanDeLegh10
1 year ago

Then why was there a protest?

T W
Reply to  ArtVanDeLegh10
1 year ago

She said if you looked at the super slo-mo video, yes. I don’t think she felt she did it, but she came to accept the verdict, and that is admirable. While in this particular case the turn judge probably made the right call, I think the video review system needs to have a better standard. In most instances “simultaneous” touch is only to the human eye; if you slow down the motion enough you will probably see non-simultaneous touches most of the time. So what’s to prevent a turn judge to just call non-simultaneous touches at will, as video reviews would uphold his/her call in most cases? Officials are admonished to give the benefit of the doubt to the swimmer;… Read more »

Ytho
Reply to  T W
1 year ago

I kinda understand what you are trying to say, but I don’t agree. They have the technology to see it perfectly. If the naked human eye can see it, why not make it sure from better angles?

USGrant
Reply to  T W
1 year ago

She has been doing that for years!!! Even my 8-year old son’s coach use video in instruction. I am speechless.

Cdev
Reply to  USGrant
1 year ago

She has also been dq’d for it before

Cdev
Reply to  T W
1 year ago

The angle was underneath over head would show the officials head if they are standing appropriately which the TV video shows they were

steve
Reply to  T W
1 year ago

The video replay is used to overturn the official. If you limit the view then you have to go with what the official says. What you are proposing only puts more power and judgment in the official hands.
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mcmflyguy
Reply to  ArtVanDeLegh10
1 year ago

she denied it because she didn’t think she did it. then they showed her video and she said oh well then i guess i did. so. thats the time line.

USGrant
Reply to  ArtVanDeLegh10
1 year ago

She knew she had to pretend at least. Her philosophy for herself is innocent until caught. Towards others is guilty as I allege.

Prison MIke
Reply to  ArtVanDeLegh10
1 year ago

it’s the cool thing to do at these world champioships

Steve Nolan
1 year ago

Oh jesus christmas.

Edit – I mean, it’s great she said she did it. That’s super cool and not something you really see much of. But the tinfoil hat stuff, gotta know not to take that bait.

Riez
1 year ago

Based on slow motion video analysis one fifth of the great athletes could be DQd. I missed her today and still don’t feel that right.

Nick
Reply to  Riez
1 year ago

Not 20% but 100%. As a matter of physics, it is impossible for two hands to touch simultaneously. Think they are touching at the same time? Slow the video down again (assuming sufficiently fast refresh rate) and you will see one hand hit the wall earlier.

Thus the rule is inherently ambiguous and unenforceable as written. It can only be policed to the resolution of the replay camera.

Better to rewrite the rule to require two hands on the wall at any point simultaneously.

Pags
Reply to  Nick
1 year ago

“Better to rewrite the rule to require two hands on the wall at any point simultaneously”
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Cdev
Reply to  Nick
1 year ago

The rule is not ambiguous it’s clear as day.

Jeff
Reply to  Cdev
1 year ago

The point isn’t whether its clear. Its whether it is physically possible when reviewed with high resolution reply equipment. The point is all breaststrokers are arguably subject to DQ. It must be pointed out that this video has not been released, has it? So we are assuming this one was not blatant.

Cdev
Reply to  Jeff
1 year ago

It was observed by a human standing right over her who has extensive experience looking at this! There are no degrees of wrong here. The rule is very clear. If you can observe the infraction in real time it is a DQ. This isn’t that hard. The rule isn’t new. It’s over 100 years old!

NoFlyKick
Reply to  Nick
1 year ago

This is 6 more upvotes that the interface won’t allow. 2 hands on the wall at the same time – ok. Two hands touching at the same time – mathematically impossible. If you take stills at a fast enough rate, you will ALWAYS find a still where one hand is touching and the other is not.

KNOWS NOTHING
Reply to  Riez
1 year ago

Having seen the way the fastest flyers and breast-strokers touch, I guesss only about 10% could survive this kind of video review (where slow motion is used).

Cdev
Reply to  KNOWS NOTHING
1 year ago

If a person sees it with the naked eye with 100% certainty live it’s pretty clear. What most people don’t realize is elite swimmers play fast and loose with the rules and have been getting away with it for years on people being lax with enforcement.

Collegeswammer
Reply to  Cdev
1 year ago

NoFlyKick got it spot on. It’s quite literally impossible to touch two hands at the exact same time. Even if it’s not a visible difference to the naked eye, a slow motion video review would verify two hands touching at slightly different times, in *literally* any review of any short axis race.

However, as Nick said, if at any point there are two hands simultaneously on the wall, that should count as a legal 2 hand touch.

Proud of King for knowing it was a losing battle and handling it with grace. It’s unfortunate, but an incident that I have no doubt she will not allow to happen again. Eyes on Tokyo.

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Torrey Hart

Torrey is from Oakland, CA, and majored in media studies and American studies at Claremont McKenna College, where she swam distance freestyle for the Claremont-Mudd-Scripps team. Outside of SwimSwam, she has bylines at Sports Illustrated, Yahoo Sports, SB Nation, and The Student Life newspaper.

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