NC State Breaks American Record with 9th Place Finish.

by Madeline Folsom 18

March 28th, 2025 College, News, Records

2025 Men’s NCAA Swimming and Diving Championships

We have been talking a lot about how fast the meet has been this year. In yet another example, 10 teams swam under the previous American Record time of 3:01.51 which was set by Cal in 2017. NC State finished 9th overall in the 400 medley relay, but they were the highest ranking team with no international swimmers allowing them to be the new record holders.

Men’s 400 Medley Relay

  • NCAA Record: 2:55.66 — Florida (Marshall, Smith, Liendo, Painter) (2025)
  • Championship Record: 2:57.32 — Arizona State (Kos, Marchand, Kharun, Kulow) (2024)
  • American Record: 3:01.51 — Cal (Murphy, Hoppe, Josa, Jensen) (2017)
  • U.S. Open Record: 2:55.66 — Florida (Marshall, Smith, Liendo, Painter) (2025)
  • 2024 Champion: Arizona State (Kos, Marchand, Kharun, Kulow) — 2:57.32

Top 8:

  1. Florida (Marshall, Smith, Liendo, Painter) – 2:56.10 (Championship Record)
  2. Texas (Modglin, Germonprez, Kos, Hobson) – 2:58.95
  3. Arizona State (Wadsworth, Dobrzanski, Kharun, Kulow) – 2:58.97
  4. Cal (Tomac, Okadome, Rose, Lasco) – 2:59.12
  5. Indiana (McDonald, Brooks, Frankel, King) – 2:59.73
  6. Georgia (Van Renen, Pitshugin, Urlando, Branzell) – 3:00.38
  7. Stanford (Sequeira, Polonsky, Minakov, Dupont Cabrera) – 3:00.91
  8. Michigan (Wilkening, Kalafatm Ray, Groumi) – 3:01.19
  9. NC State (McCarty, Hoover, Miller, Fox) — 3:01.34

The Wolfpack touched in 3:01.34, a little under two tenths under the eight-year-old American Record set by Cal back in 2017.

With this time last year, they would have been 5th in the event. They actually finished 3rd in 2:59.71, but their backstroker Kacper Stokowski was from Poland, so the time was not eligible for an American Record

When Cal set the record back in 2017, they also did not win the event. They finished 2nd behind Texas who swam 2:59.22, but Joseph Schooling swam their butterfly leg.

Split Comparison

Cal, 3:01.51 (2017 NCAA Championships, Previous Record) NC State, 3:01.34 (2025 NCAA Championships, New Record
Back Ryan Murphy 44.32 Quintin McCarty 45.57
Breast Connor Hoppe 50.97 Sam Hoover 50.86
Fly Matthew Josa 44.59 Luke Miller 44.17
Free Michael Jensen 41.63 Jerry Fox 40.74

The splits are really interesting to look at. The only split where NC State was slower was the backstroke. Ryan Murphy was out more than a second faster than Quintin McCarty. The breaststroke splits were incredibly similar, but ultimately Sam Hoover was a little more than a tenth faster than Connor Hoppe. The biggest differences came in the 100 fly where Luke Miller split four tenths faster than Matthew Josa, and the 100 freestyle, where Jerry Fox was almost a second faster than Michael Jensen.

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Andy Hardt
3 days ago

I think this may be an unpopular opinion, but I’ve never thought that NCAA relay records should be kept by country, except as trivia. As in, I’m not opposed to keeping track of the fastest relay with 4 American swimmers, but listing it on the program is a step farther than I’d go.

The reason is that records are supposed to represent the pinnacle of possible performance in a particular category, and these records simply don’t. Since NCAA athletes are competing by university, the American record in a relay is almost never set by the fastest 4 Americans at a given time. It’s not even set by the fastest 4 Americans at a given university. It goes to the fastest… Read more »

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Reply to  Andy Hardt
3 days ago

I guess I don’t frame it in my mind the same way as you do. In theory, a non-NCAA relay could break the American Record. While in practice, that never happens in relays, it does happen all the time in individual events, and I guess while you’re listing individual American Records, why not also list the relay records?

Andy Hardt
Reply to  Braden Keith
3 days ago

This is a fair point. And it’s a fun record to keep track of–no one wants to be against fun! Given that you and presumably many other people like seeing it listed, sure, why not have it on there.

Let me ask: if every school put forth their top 4 Americans, would NC State still have the American record? Florida would have to replace Liendo and (I think) Painter, but they have a 5-second margin. As good as Liendo is, I bet they’d still get the record. But no NCAA team will target the American record unless their top 4 swimmers happen to be American. This is unlike the American record in individual events, where the American record is (presumably)… Read more »

Captain Bubbles
Reply to  Andy Hardt
3 days ago

During the ISL, multi-national relays were not eligible for world records.

Andy Hardt
Reply to  Captain Bubbles
3 days ago

Wow, that’s too bad (in my opinion). Thanks for the info!

Faulty Touch Pad
3 days ago

American Record, but they will not receive All-American Honors… the irony is off the charts

Andrew
3 days ago

This is the most NC state thing possible. Underperform again at a big meet with an admittedly thin squad, Break some arbitrary meaningless record, and celebrate because this team is just vibes and don’t even gaf anymore

ACC fan
3 days ago

NC STATE, a true All American medley relay.🙂

Last edited 3 days ago by ACC fan
This Guy
3 days ago

The American record doesn’t even Final

Bing chilling
3 days ago

This is a crazy stat

Expat Swimmer
3 days ago

Congratulations to NC State, but man does that headline drive home how heavily international the NCAA is.

FastSwimming
Reply to  Expat Swimmer
3 days ago

Yes and no, if each team ahead of them has one international swimmer that’s 8intl and 24american. Now if someone broke the American record and didn’t make top 8 in an individual for example, that would be a great example of international power

IMO
Reply to  FastSwimming
3 days ago

Four teams ahead of them only had one international, but three teams were half international and Stanford only had one American. No way to deny a pretty heavy international presence.

Swimjess
Reply to  FastSwimming
3 days ago

Did you just make this up off the top of your head? 14 of the 32 swimmers in the top 8 are international. 5 of top 8 teams had at least 2 international swimmers in that relay.

International swimmers add significant value to the competition and their schools when they are student-athletes. They make the sport and their universities better!

When they are transactional athletes-only with no intention of being undergrads and becoming part of their college – like Cal’s Henveaux and Mewac who just arrive a week before ACC and leave the week after NCAAs to compete in Europe while taking 2-3 online courses in a “certificate” program – THIS is the problem the NCAA needs to address.

MigBike
Reply to  Swimjess
3 days ago

Hmmmm are people aware that the real cost per student at ALL major universities is greater that tuition, room, board and books? US tax dollars subsidize all students; EVEN International students.
This post is simply to be informative.

Admin
Reply to  MigBike
3 days ago

It’s all a question of accounting. The cost is more than tuition, but that doesn’t necessarily mean the costs are subsidized by tax dollars. The costs are offset by a combination of tax dollars, endowment/investments, donations, scholarships, and direct revenue from things like food service, housing, licensing deals, sports at some schools, grants, and any research or patents that become commercially fruitful. At some schools, there are even resource rights in effect.

612
Reply to  Expat Swimmer
3 days ago

When’s the last time it wasn’t?

NC Fan
3 days ago

Go Pack! Luke Miller and Quintin McCarty set 3 American records (so far) and Sam Hoover and Jerry Fox with 2 (so far). Pretty nice.