There Are Plans For A Men’s 400 Free Time Trial

2021 U.S. OLYMPIC SWIMMING TRIALS

On Sunday night, only one swimmer cracked the Olympic qualifying time (OQT) and it was Kieran Smith (3:44.86). We broke down what this means and the rules regarding OQT’s and the consideration times or Olympic Selection Times (OST’s) here.

While there are three FINA approved swim meets between now and the end of the qualifying period on June 27th, sources say there are plans to hold a 400 free time trial during Wave II as another opportunity for someone to get under the OQT of 3:46.78.

The likely candidates include Jake Mitchell who snagged 2nd place with a time of 3:48.17 and Ross Dant who placed 3rd (3:48.30).

Men’s 400 Free Final Results:

  1. Kieran Smith (FLOR), 3:44.86
  2. Jake Mitchell (CSC), 3:48.17
  3. Ross Dant (NCS), 3:48.30
  4. Chris Wieser (DART) – 3:48.42
  5. Brooks Fail (CLCK) – 3:48.47
  6. Trey Freeman (FLOR) – 3:49.07
  7. Mitch D’Arrigo (GSC) – 3:50.87
  8. Andrew Abruzzo (PWAC) – 3:51.45

The other FINA approved meets include a meet in Mission Viejo on June 26-27 and a meet in the Bahamas on June 27th. Technically, swimmers could also fly to Rome and compete at the Sette Coli Trophy.

For now, that second spot could go to Zane Grothe who has already cracked the OQT during the qualifying period, but nothing is guaranteed due to the 26-person limit on the Olympic roster. Grothe could swim in the time trial after he missed the final yesterday. He placed 11th with a time of 3:50.80.

 

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Swimdude
1 month ago

This reads like an April Fools Day article but it is the sad reality of American men’s mid distance swimming

BadShoulder
1 month ago

I really hope Finke swims it

Joe
Reply to  BadShoulder
1 month ago

he can’t make the team in this event–would just be for show

swimfan210_
Reply to  BadShoulder
1 month ago

He could swim it to get a time, but he won’t be able to swim it in Tokyo because he has to have finished higher than Grothe in Trials to get a spot from a time trial A cut, and he didn’t swim it.

HJones
Reply to  swimfan210_
1 month ago

I think there is a situation in which Finke could end up swimming the 400 in Tokyo. If Finke makes the team in another event and Grothe doesn’t, and there is already 26 swimmers including Finke on the men’s roster, then Finke could time-trial at a FINA sanctioned meet and get the A-cut to swim that event.

Riccardo
Reply to  swimfan210_
1 month ago

I get this part of it. However, no one has been able to answer this unlikely hypothetical for me.

What priority is Grothe for an invite? Is be behind 5th and 6th in 100 and 200 free?

If the roster were to fill with Finke on it and Grothe missing out. Could Finke then be added to the 400 if he achieved an A cut in a time trial?

Swimlikefishdrinklikefish
Reply to  Riccardo
1 month ago

Also, could grothe wave his spot for finke? I’m sure he wouldn’t feel good about going if he wasn’t gonna do well

Joe
Reply to  Riccardo
1 month ago

I think Grothe is behind 5th and 6th in the 100 and 200 frees, yes. And in that case, I think so. But I’m not 100% sure.

Eric the eel > Phelps
1 month ago

same problem i think for the 800 and 1500

thezwimmer
Reply to  Eric the eel > Phelps
1 month ago

The 800 is very unlikely. 7:54 is the A standard, and we have multiple guys who are capable of swimming that time. The 400 free was a special case in that, barring a ridiculous drop in time, Grothe and Smith were really the only ones with legitimate chances of making 3:46.78.
The 1500 is 15:00. I don’t see that one being an issue either, unless a couple swimmers have poor races and no fringe swimmers (15:01’s, 15:02’s etc) drop any time.

Mr. F
Reply to  thezwimmer
1 month ago

Bobby Finke and Jordy Wilimosky are shoe ins for under 15. I mean Jordy has been 14:45 and Bobby Finke is 14:12 short course and is primed for a huge swim IMO

Stank
Reply to  Mr. F
1 month ago

Bobby is also 14:48 from 2018 pan pacs I think

Boring name
1 month ago

They may need more than one

Fly 100
Reply to  Boring name
1 month ago

Yes, best 2 out of three ?

BearlyBreathing
Reply to  Fly 100
1 month ago

Time trial to the death!

poolboy
Reply to  Boring name
1 month ago

400 skins winner makes the team

Meow
Reply to  poolboy
1 month ago

I would love to watch that.

SWIMGUY12345
1 month ago

This will be open to everyone right? Silly to only allow the top swimmers from the final.

There are many other guys capable of swimming faster who didn’t swim the event.

I think it’s pretty ridiculous to hold a time trial, but if they do, it should be open to anyone who has the cut.

Admin
Reply to  SWIMGUY12345
1 month ago

Time trials are open to everyone. They haven’t said if they’ll make it just that heat for this case – but only those 9 guys are eligible to bump Zane Grothe for the Olympic spot.

ClubCoach
Reply to  Braden Keith
1 month ago

So you have to have swum the 400 at Trials to be eligible? If you didn’t swim it at trials but swam it at another meet and beat Zane’s time they still aren’t eligible? (assuming none of the Trials swimmers is able to get the “A” cut). Also, they did have a 400 time trial yesterday afternoon right after prelims.

Admin
Reply to  ClubCoach
1 month ago

Because Grothe has that “A” cut, yes, for a swimmer to be eligible, they must have beat Grothe at Trials.

That doesn’t mean they have to beat Grothe’s time. They just have to hit the “A” cut. It also doesn’t have to be at Trials. But even if they do it at the Mission Viejo meet, it’s the next-highest finisher who has an “A” cut by June 27.

Fly 100
1 month ago

No !!!! Trials finals are final !

DCSwim
1 month ago

Imagine trying to explain this to someone from 2019

GATOR CHOMP 🐊
Reply to  DCSwim
1 month ago

I mean in 2019 there was a similar problem with Shoults wanting to drop the event because of shoulder injury. But him and grothe were the only two with the A cut so he just swam it anyways

Jojo
1 month ago

maybe dolphin miller has a chance in this event? haha

Texas Tap Water
Reply to  Jojo
1 month ago

You mean Vlogger Miller?