Cody Miller Shares Breaststroke Knowledge, Analyzes Women’s 200 WR & Men’s 100

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We sat down with the breaststroking man who’s always in front of the camera, Cody Miller. Cody goes DEEP on the women’s 200 breast, revealing what he saw as the difference maker between Olympic champion Tatjana Schoenmaker‘s prelims/semi swims and her finals swim where she broke the world record. Cody also gives insight into Lilly King‘s mentality after losing her Olympic title in the 100 breast and heading into the 200 breast, where she went a huge personal best by nearly 1.5 seconds.

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PenguinMan
1 month ago

Oh no here come the comments

Jake
Reply to  PenguinMan
1 month ago

For anyone about to scroll, I’ll TL;DR it for you:
– Cody’s a dolphin kicking cheat
– Missed the Olympics cuz he’s slow
– Sun Yang on the podcast for the 400 free??

Beckie
1 month ago

Oh please, knowledge on what? Illegal breaststroke kicks?

Last edited 1 month ago by Beckie
N80m80
Reply to  Beckie
1 month ago

Idk being an Olympic Bronze medalist in the 100 breast seems like a pretty good qualification and demonstration of knowledge

Dressel will come 3rd in 100 free in Paris
Reply to  N80m80
1 month ago

He cheated to that bronze – is that worth shouting about?

N80m80

Glad the swimswam commenters are more qualified to determine that than the actual Olympic meet judges

Dressel will come 3rd in 100 free in Paris
Reply to  N80m80
1 month ago

It’s on video – everyone knows judges haven’t had the powers to disqualify swimmers at previous Olympics based on the underwater footage – it’s only if they can make the call based on what they see above the water, which is impossible on entry.

It doesn’t change his lack of integrity or willingness to cheat to get ahead. He’s in the same bucket as anyone else who cheats in sport, regardless of whether he was his medal or not, it’s tainted.

IUknows

Truth

Swimmer
Reply to  N80m80
1 month ago

You can literally see a down kick on almost every stroke he takes in the video

Definitely Not Sun Yang
Reply to  N80m80
1 month ago

The judges didn’t catch cameron van der burgh when he literally admitted in 2012 that he cheated. cut the crap.

T S
Reply to  Definitely Not Sun Yang
1 month ago

Thank you someone finally said it

Philip Johnson
Reply to  N80m80
1 month ago

Obviously a person who predicted bronze for Dressel is the authority on such things, I can’t wait for his analysis to come out.

Dressel will come 3rd in 100 free in Paris
Reply to  Philip Johnson
1 month ago

The 3rd place quip for Dressel is purely satirical. Conversely my disappointment in dolphin kickers is very real.

Swimer
Reply to  N80m80
1 month ago

I mean yeah, it on video. He objectively cheated. By definition we DO know more than the judges and can determine that Cody Miller CHEATED to get the medal and should have been disqualified.

Philip Johnson
1 month ago

Love the analysis of Miller, very articulate and knows his swimming.

DCSwim
Reply to  Philip Johnson
1 month ago

When can we get Mr. He’s Breathing to His Right out of the broadcast and Cody in?

Swimnerd
1 month ago

“You know personally, I would have done a couple extra dolphin kicks off the wall but that’s just me”

Bossanova
Reply to  Swimnerd
1 month ago

Guess I have to listen to it now to find out if this quote is real!!!

leisurely1:29
1 month ago

I love Cody Miller and Lilly King, they are my IDOLS and I look up to them so much🤩

John
Reply to  leisurely1:29
1 month ago

Guerra?

Dressel will come 3rd in 100 free in Paris
1 month ago

Are you going to get Sun Yang to analyse the 200 and 400 next?

Dressel will come 3rd in 100 free in Paris
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
1 month ago

Coleman, if we lived in an ideal world where people actually called out extra dolphin kicks when they happened, no, I wouldn’t have to make ludicrous comparisons like this.

The fact is though that Cody Miller (and others, like Scozzoli, Van der Burgh etc) have cheated on the biggest stages, and face next to no accountability for their actions.

The point of my comparison is that you’re giving a platform to someone who framed their cheating as ‘pullout issues’ rather than held their hands up and acknowledged what they did was wrong (which is what Van Der Burgh did). If you have a problem with me point this out, that’s fine. I know it’s going to give me a ridiculously… Read more »

Coach Macgyver

Cody does a lot for the sport. He’s good energy and brings great insight. This video is pretty cool and makes me think he has coaching in the radar.

Swimer
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
1 month ago

He really hasn’t taken accountability though. I watched that “apology” video. He claimed that it was because he takes the dolphin kick before he initiates the pull-down and the judges “thought he took another one when it was just his body’s natural undulation”. What wasn’t addressed was the fact that he also takes multiple dolphin kicks off the start (which he did to win the Olympic Bronze medal btw) as well as his downward kicks he take throughput his stroke cycle. He treated it like an “accidental mistake”, when really he just got caught AGAIN.

Steve Nolan

This is one of the most boneheaded grudges I’ve seen on here.

The greatest breaststroker of all time was so good at cheating that they had to change the rules for him to allow any dolphin kicks at all. Gets a biggole WHO CARE from me.

Caeleb’s left suit string
Reply to  Steve Nolan
1 month ago

THE greatest? You sure? Maybe not one more person above them? Anyone? Anyone at all? No one else maybe comes to mind? A Brit perhaps?

Last edited 1 month ago by Caeleb’s left suit string
Ol' Longhorn
Reply to  Caeleb’s left suit string
1 month ago

Peaty’s a one-trick pony. His 200 breast is laughably bad.

Swimer
Reply to  Ol' Longhorn
1 month ago

You could say the same for Kitajima’s 50 breast. Both swimmers are champions of their generation for two breaststroke events. The difference? Kitajima had multiple rivals throughout his career while Peaty has been swimming on a field of his own this entire time.

Ol' Longhorn
Reply to  Swimer
1 month ago

The difference is the 50 breast isn’t an Olympic event, so WTF cares?

Swimer
Reply to  Ol' Longhorn
1 month ago

No? But it shows up in literally every other international meet? And I just rechecked my sources, Kitajima wasn’t even that good. He was losing to Hansen half the time, the only difference was that he won the 4 races that people pay attention to. He wasn’t a true dominant force like Peaty. And last I checked, Kitajima was barely able to crack 59 seconds. Its just nostalgia.

There's no doubt that he's tightening up
Reply to  Caeleb’s left suit string
1 month ago

Maybe if the Brit swam the 200 internationally he would have a better case.

ACC
Reply to  Caeleb’s left suit string
1 month ago

Greatest sprint breaststroker? Sure. But Kitajima won both breaststrokes in back-to-back Olympics while holding world records in both, so I think I’ll still give him the edge.

Steve Nolan
Reply to  Caeleb’s left suit string
1 month ago

Peaty doesn’t have anywhere near as good a claim as best breaststroker ever as Kitajima.

Peaty is overwhelmingly the best 100m guy, but isn’t as dominant in the 50 – sorta like Phelps in the 100 fly to me, where like, maaaaybe you can beat him, but prolly not. And then he just doesn’t swim one of two of the Olympic distances. That’s a huge negative and sorta disqualifying when you got a guy that repeat at both distances.

Ol' Longhorn

Dude, you gotta let it go.

KimJongSpoon

Have this same energy for guys like Kamminga, Sacki and Prigoda then. They’ve dolphin kicked into the wall to win some of their best races and there’s no condemnation of them

Stewie
Reply to  KimJongSpoon
1 month ago

Yea, no. Shymanovich, Martinenghi dolphin kicking, sure. Show me a video of Arno dolphin kicking…

ACC
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
1 month ago

I’ve followed the sport for long enough to remember Kitajima being a “dolphin kick cheater”.

Edit: watching the video from his 2004 final he actually even took multiple kicks off the start.

Last edited 1 month ago by ACC
Retiredguy
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
1 month ago

Coleman, I’m pretty sure this person has never pulled on a lane line doing backstroke in practice since they are so holier than thou about the rules. Honestly though, I’m not sure they have done a lot of high level swimming if they are going to criticize someone like Cody Miller in this way.

Swimer
Reply to  Retiredguy
1 month ago

Pulling on the lane line to make your own PRACTICE easier is not comparable to intentionally CHEATING in a COMPETITION to make yourself better than the other swimmers. If not cheating and following the rules make us “holier than thou” then sure, I don’t feel bad “casting the first stone” against those who don’t.

Last edited 1 month ago by Swimer
MickeyMouse
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
1 month ago

The amount of times he’s been slammed in the prelim/finals recap article comments the last few days where he wasn’t involved in the slightest, having an article with him featured was doomed from the start.

PhillyMark
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
1 month ago

My guess is these commenters didn’t watch the last 45 seconds of the vlog. Great vlog. Cody seems in good spirits in spite of the detractors.

Barry
1 month ago

Cody miller is an is an extremely hard working, talented athlete who delivered on the world’s biggest stage. Watch the underwater video of every major breaststroke race in modern history—including the gold medals of kosuke kitajima when butterfly kicks were absolutely illegal—and you will see an undulating movement at different times in any race. It does not diminish the accomplishment. Breaststrokers at every level get DQd for this. Your impassioned argument reveals a bias against an individual, not some defense of the integrity of breaststroke.

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Coleman started his journey in the water at age 1, and although he actually has no memory of that, something must have stuck. A Missouri native, he joined the Columbia Swim Club at age 9, where he is still remembered for his stylish dragon swim trunks. After giving up on …

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