Beyond the Pancakes: Mizzou will Suit Up for Every Meet Moving Forward

In Practice + Pancakes, SwimSwam takes you across the country and through a practice day in the life of swimming’s best athletes. It breaks down training sessions, sub sets, and what every team is doing to be at their best. But why are they doing things that way? In Beyond the Pancakes, we dive inside the minds of coaches and athletes, getting a first hand look at why they do the things they do, and where their minds are pointed on the compass of evolution as a swimmer.

After seeing 2 of the University of Missouri’s practices (see below if you haven’t), we sat down and talked with hew head coach Andrew Grevers. Grevers broke down the 4 pillars of change he will be implementing that he thinks will make Mizzou stand out as a trail blazer among swimming schools.

  1. Splitting the men’s and women’s teams: In the afternoons, Mizzou has single gendered practices, meaning that all 5 of their swim coaches + their 2 volunteers can work with the men’s and women’s teams. This makes 7 coaches for a group of 22-24 athletes
  2. Weights program: Mizzou‘s strength coach, Joe (who you can learn more about here), is training the men and women separately now as well, and Joe has spent the last year studying what is specific to the needs of male and female swimmers
  3. Psychology: The head of the mental performance center within Mizzou Athletics is working with the males and females once a week to give them mental tools to carry with them when they are in a performance environment
  4. Suiting Up: Mizzou may be the first American collegiate team ever to announce that moving forward, it will be suiting up for all competitions. This isn’t a new concept for professional swimmers, but during the collegiate season it’s rare to see technical suits worn at meets that aren’t prelims/finals.

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ReneDescartes
1 year ago

Bad idea jeans.

phelp's dog
1 year ago

prob cus they can’t win without em

dmswim
1 year ago

This suiting up for every meet plan sounds expensive.

AustinPoolBoy
Reply to  dmswim
1 year ago

Yeah those tech suits don’t last forever. Hope he has the budget

Heyitsme
Reply to  AustinPoolBoy
1 year ago

Well he basically said they have the budget for it

Swammer
Reply to  dmswim
1 year ago

Probably one suit for dual meets, one for invite, one for conference and one for NCAA’s. So it’s maybe one extra suit than a normal college program.

Coach
Reply to  Swammer
1 year ago

What college programs do you know that give 3 new tech suits per year? Very few if any!

ColinBemiller
Reply to  Coach
1 year ago

UGA does

BIG DAWG
Reply to  dmswim
1 year ago

Or they will just wear old suits? Most college swimmers have 2-3 extra suits and it isn’t rare to find old fast suits sitting around in the team locker room

Speed Racer
1 year ago

You had me until pillar 4. 😬😬😬

Erik
1 year ago

Pillar 4 = principle of specificity

The more experience you have in the circumstances that are closest to the big meet, the better. As the article said, pros do it and they’ve got the budget.

No one said they had to be this years $350-$550 suit either. Last year’s will suffice. Maybe even their suit sponsor can get involved and have them test new suits, which may reduce costs.

ERVINFORTHEWIN
Reply to  Erik
1 year ago

great idea

Virtua
Reply to  Erik
1 year ago

Btw you can get men’s suits for like 180-220 on Uk/Japanese site

Dudeman
Reply to  Erik
1 year ago

Most college teams also get discounts with a suit/equipment sponsor to begin with so they wouldn’t be paying the full price for all the suits anyways

old sprinter
Reply to  Dudeman
1 year ago

If I were ARENA etc I would give them every suit for free. can you imagine how many more suits they will sell if this catches on?

Aquajosh
Reply to  Erik
1 year ago

The pros do it because there is money on the line. That’s not the case for a college dual meet.

JP input is too short
1 year ago

Seems like a good enough idea to me. Train and race in as close of conditions as is reasonable to the way you want to race peaked. That’s why drag suits have more or less fallen out of favor.

Anonymous
1 year ago

Oh they big scared😱

Stan Crump
1 year ago

Interested in seeing what kind of drops they will have at shaved meets.

Swimmer
Reply to  Stan Crump
1 year ago

As the article said, pros already do this all the time… and they seem to find a way to drop a lot of time when it comes to the big meet. Why race in a practice suit all season and then show up at conference in a tech suit for the first or second time all season? How does that prepare you for racing under the same conditions? College coaches keep saying “you need to learn how to race in a practice suit so you feel better at the end of the season.” But, that scientifically makes zero sense. Repetition under as similar of circumstances as possible is how you teach your body and retain muscle memory. I’m sorry, but… Read more »

Stan Crump
Reply to  Swimmer
1 year ago

Doesn’t seem that the Pro’s have quite as many meets in a 26 week season. Just seems to me that you take away a weapon that you have for the end of the season.

JP input is too short
Reply to  Stan Crump
1 year ago

If you’re, say, Nick Alexander, a 1:38 200 back would be a 1:38 200 back whether it came off of an in season 1:42 or 1:45.

Skittlebrau
Reply to  JP input is too short
1 year ago

Yup. How exactly is wearing the suit going to hurt the end result at a conference meet? I’d even argue that a swimmer could go into a conference meet with even more confidence of having some fast in season swims. You don’t get bonus points for “biggest drop” from in season to championship

Skittlebrau
Reply to  Stan Crump
1 year ago

Take away what weapon? You know they can wear tech suits for the championship too right?

Backstroke03
Reply to  Stan Crump
1 year ago

For the first 100 years of this sport the athletes raced in the same suits they wore to practice everyday, the idea the suit is some magic wand that needs to be saved is really flawed thinking.

Imagine Tiger Woods saving his “good clubs” for only the Masters?

Admin
Reply to  Backstroke03
1 year ago

Paper suits have entered the chat.

Admin
Reply to  Braden Keith
1 year ago

(Which is not to say I disagree with your point. Just pointing out that swimmers haven’t raced in the same suits they’ve practiced in for the entire history of swimming. For good reason. Practicing in a paper suit would be bloody expensive.)

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