Dean Boxall Says Once-Banned Shayna Jack Wants Revenge In The Pool

Earlier this month we reported how Australian sprinter Shayna Jack‘s doping ban appeals filed by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) and Sport Integrity Australia were dismissed by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).

That ultimately means that Jack’s 2-year-ban ended on July 12, 2021, meaning her legal ordeals are over and she can now compete and attempt to gain a spot on the Aussie national team.

One man in her corner is coach Dean Boxall, the animated presence on-deck at St. Peters Western and the man who helped guide Ariarne Titmus to historic 400m freestyle gold this past summer in Tokyo.

Boxall told The Sydney Morning Herald recently regarding 22-year-old Jack, “She’s hungrier, she’s a lot more determined.

“She’s thick-skinned, she has good body armour on her now. There were just so many delays but when I spoke with her (after the CAS decision), it was a different girl at the end of the phone.

“She’s certainly better than she was two years ago. How good can she be? I don’t know. We just don’t know. When she was younger, she was just a prodigy, she looked like the real deal. Now we get a wiser, stronger, determined Shayna, a girl that is fearless. She wants some revenge in the pool.” (SMH)

In the past, Jack has competed primarily in the sprint freestyle events and was a member of four medal-winning relays at the 2017 FINA World Championships.

With the likes of Emma McKeonCate Campbell still gunning for Paris 2024 at this time, as well as young guns such as Mollie O’Callaghan in the mix, Jack will have her work cut out for her with just 3 years left to the next Summer Olympic Games.

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50free
2 months ago

Revenge on what? Even if she wins gold in Paris it doesn’t prove whether or not she was a drug cheat.

AThomas
Reply to  50free
2 months ago

Yes, the proper word would be redemption not revenge.

Swimmer Steve
2 months ago

Who cares, no one will look at her future success the same now that she’s cheated.

Reply to  Swimmer Steve
2 months ago

I disagree with this sentiment. It’s one thing to have titles/medals vacated because of cheating, but it’s another to serve a ban then come back and have success.

Look at Efimova – served a ban, came back to win Olympic medals. Whether people like it or not, she’s an Olympic medalist.

Whether Shayna cheated or not in the past, if she wins a world or Olympic medal, I bet she will get a lot of positive attention, especially in her home country

Last edited 2 months ago by Coleman Hodges
Ferb
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
2 months ago

I agree with Swimmer Steve. The fact that Efimova went on to win medals after her ban doesn’t mean people won’t look at her success differently than if she had a clean record. Sun Yang won medals after being busted for cheating, but even his fellow competitors still view him as a cheater.

Sure, drug cheats all get more benefit of the doubt in their home country, but most of the world will view them as permanently tainted to some degree.

Nordic
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
2 months ago

I am sorry but your comment here makes little sense. By cheating you tale away opportunities from all fair playing competitors. It is an unforgivable act. I am all with Swimmer Steve on this one.

FST
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
2 months ago

Efimova has and always will have that cloud hanging over her. So will Jack. She could win 20 gold medals over the next couple of Olympics, but she’ll always be the swimmer that cheated. That never goes away.

Last edited 2 months ago by FST
commonwombat
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
2 months ago

Respect what you’re saying but largely agree with the dissenting view. No matter the scope of the offence, nigh everyone who’s been charged with these offences AND returned to the sport have, rightly or wrongly, had to live with an ongoing question mark over them. Efimova has probably the most notable who have shown the mental toughness to “live with it” and remain a major player. Ditto Sun Yang; but they are the notable exceptions to the norm. The vast majority never return to their previous level and are mentally unable to deal with the “taint” to their reputation.

The days of believing that Aussie sportspeople are somehow lily-white are long past. Maybe she WAS a tad unlucky in being… Read more »

Virtus
Reply to  commonwombat
2 months ago

Yeah like lowkey efimova got a strong ass mental game u have to give to it her

Troyy
Reply to  Virtus
2 months ago

She doesn’t seem to give a f at all (at least from the outside looking in).

Robbos
Reply to  commonwombat
2 months ago

‘Maybe she WAS a tad unlucky in being the next Aussie to “front the bench” after a number of her compatriots have been very lucky’

Would love to know who you talking about here or is this another one of your wild speculation comments?

whever
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
2 months ago

Efimova doesn’t seem to be a good example. I doubt people really appreciate her success.

Coach Macgyver
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
2 months ago

Cheating and taking a tainted supplement are two different things. I am with Coleman on this one. I think people would be shocked to see how often supplements get tainted. Think about it. If you want your
Unregulated supplements to really sell, add some flavor to it.

Hope she wins tons of gold medals and world records.

Ferb
Reply to  Coach Macgyver
2 months ago

Pretty much every athlete who has ever tested positive for a banned substance has blamed a tainted supplement, or a tainted water bottle, or something along those lines. Just because the individual involved is someone who you want to believe doesn’t make it true. The rule is that athletes are responsible for what they put into their bodies, so why would a world-class athlete take an unregulated, unvetted supplement?

Also, in a few cases such as that of Madisyn Cox, athletes have been able to demonstrate that a supplement was tainted by having unopened packages tested. Shayna Jack either didn’t try to do that, or the testing didn’t give the result she was hoping for.

Coach Macgyver
Reply to  Ferb
2 months ago

You missed my point. I don’t think she is a cheat, nor does she deserves any of this unwarranted hate.

She has proven ingestion or how we she took it was unintentional. Not a cheat.

Last edited 2 months ago by Coach Macgyver
Swimmer Steve
Reply to  Coach Macgyver
2 months ago

She got busted for taking a Sarm. No one is putting those in supplements for free and like the other commenter said, if you were a professional athlete why would you risk taking a supplement that isn’t safe sport verified or the equivalent.

Coach Macgyver
Reply to  Swimmer Steve
2 months ago

Lol, safe sport verified…

Admin
Reply to  Swimmer Steve
2 months ago

I don’t think there are any supplements that are “safe sport verified.” No governing body would ever take on that verification responsibility in the western world, because the lawsuits would bleed you to death if something went wrong (and, inevitably, something would go wrong).

Success Leaves Clues
Reply to  Braden Keith
2 months ago

Not true Braden. Many governing bodies educate their athletes to check all supplements on their ‘safer sport’ websites and there is a hotline if you are unsure. This is her responsibility and hers alone..

Coach Macgyver
Reply to  Success Leaves Clues
2 months ago

No safe sport verification. There is the FDA, but they won’t touch it.

commonwombat
Reply to  Coach Macgyver
2 months ago

They are all warned, or should have been, warned to take extreme care with any supplements that have not already been “vetted” by their sports science folk. The issue is that all too many appear to have zoned out at these education sessions …….. and then have the audacity to play “poor little persecuted me” when their carelessness bites them hard in the hindquarters. A little honesty, whilst it won’t get you off, might actually earn you a little more respect.

Yes, I will agree that supplements (whilst a perennial gray area) are several levels below steroids/EPO/blood doping but carelessness is at best a minor mitigating factor NOT a defence when most major countries have extensive education AND your fellow… Read more »

Coach Macgyver
Reply to  commonwombat
2 months ago

I ran out of breath reading your second paragraph.

Hswimmer
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
2 months ago

Coleman… u on something??? Cuz WHAT?

Drama King
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
2 months ago

I think Efimova is not a good example.
I can think off Cielo as a good example in swimming community.

But an another great example for your point is Shelly Ann Fraser Pryce. She was handed a 3 month doping ban in 2011 or so. But her accomplishments after that, never gone under appreciated. I mean even many consider her as the greatest women sprinter of all time.

Success Leaves Clues
Reply to  Drama King
2 months ago

Let’s be clear on Effimova. She tested positive for a supplement in the US – fair enough. But then in the Meldonium saga she tested positive for this multiple times when it was on the banned list (post January 1st). She was given 12 months notice to come off it as we all knew it was coming on the banned list. At the same time tennis suspended Sharapova for the same thing. FINA let her off. She was cheating. A second ban would have meant lifetime and that is what she should have got.

Swimmer Steve
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
2 months ago

I certainly see where you’re coming from. However, there will always be that doubt. Are there lasting effects to whatever she took? Will she take things in the future again after showing a willingness to?

I agree with you that for the swimmer that comes back and has success and for their home country it is seen by most as a great achievement. For the rest of the world not so much.

Eric the eel > Phelps
2 months ago

That’s doope

John
2 months ago

Can I sign up for the next Dean Boxall motivational speech. I love hearing this guy talk about athletes, very inspiring!

Coach Mike 1952
Reply to  John
2 months ago

“The animal!” Quote from Dean at the Aussie OLY trials.

Joe
Reply to  Coach Mike 1952
2 months ago

That is Laurie Lawrence

Coach Mike 1952
Reply to  Joe
2 months ago

Just checked out Laurie Lawrence – I now see what you’re saying – & totally agree! The guy is quite animated – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qReUKC9QV2c

Boxall video – ” https://twitter.com/i/status/1403677222070849537

Last edited 2 months ago by Coach Mike 1952
Ledecky will go under 8 minutes in the 800
Reply to  John
2 months ago

Nah he’s slightly terrifying and also gives off Shane Tussup energy

About to get attacked by Aussies for this again

John

I used to think that but the last Boxall article or the one before had a good video clip of him interacting with his squad in practice and it was refreshing to see the way he spoke with them. His podcast with Hawke was quite revealing from a coach standpoint at least.

Drama King
2 months ago

I thought she was at Campbell’s training group. Not Boxall’s.

commonwombat
Reply to  Drama King
2 months ago

She was …… until the Campbells relocated with Cusack to Sydney. She wasn’t willing to relocate so switched to Boxall at SPW.

HJones
Reply to  commonwombat
2 months ago

Even if she wanted to make the move, would they take her back? Ik some Aussie groups don’t allow people who’ve served a doping suspension to train with them.

Troyy
Reply to  HJones
2 months ago

The move happened before the doping ban.

Corn Pop
Reply to  HJones
2 months ago

She was with Boxall in 2018. No one has moved to train with Cusack as his role in NSW is likely training other coaches in his philosophies & methods.

nlm78
Reply to  Corn Pop
2 months ago

Cusack actually went back to QLD when he returned from Tokyo and going by Bronte’s post when she returned, he would be staying there. Not sure he’ll stay in QLD when they reopen the borders, since we’re in lockdown here in Sydney, or if he’ll come back to Knox.

Troyy
Reply to  nlm78
2 months ago

I recall reading somewhere that Cuask and Cate are staying in Brisbane which makes me wonder what Bronte’s future is given she’s said she’s not retiring quite yet and her coach is now 900km away.

Greg Peter
2 months ago

I bet Sun Yang wants revenge in the pool too.

Just give the trophy to the condors already
Reply to  Greg Peter
2 months ago

He will SMASH the records in Paris

HJones
2 months ago

She could win 9 gold medals and set 4 world records in Paris, but that doesn’t change the fact that she is a drug cheat. There isn’t a shred of evidence that this was done in negligence or from cross-contamination other than her word.

She tried to blame a gym blender for the substance, which is scientifically possible, as Ligandrol is quite orally bioavailable. But I SARMs are a Schedule 4 drug, so I doubt any gym a national team swimmer is going to would have that stuff out in the open or putting in peoples’ protein shakes.

STRAIGHTBLACKLINE
2 months ago

The CAS found the banned substance in her system was “pharmacologically insignificant”. Previously hair samples had been sent to a Swiss lab which uses cutting edge technology and it was found she could not have been a long term user of that substance. All indications are she took something inadvertently and it didn’t help her performances. Why not give the poor girl a break? She’s gone through mental anguish, incurred many thousands of dollars in expenses and missed two years of her career, including an Olympic Games. There are numerous serious drug cheats who have had much leaner penalties. She deserves to get on with her swimming career and not be dogged by speculation.

Joel
Reply to  STRAIGHTBLACKLINE
2 months ago

Thank you for your comment. Some common sense.

Aussie swim fan
Reply to  Joel
2 months ago

Agree. At least someone is showing some common sense. Shayna had negative tests right up until this test in camp prior to the event & there was a minimal amt in her system as previously stated. I personally do not believe this was intentional. How easy it would be for someone to slip something into food/drink when travelling & in camps/communal accomodation etc. Can anyone prove the Chinese (considering the animosity between Mack H & Sun Y) or competition/opposition mischief maker didnt slip a bit of Grannies Ligandrol into her food or drink. Shayna was always a very conciencious & dedicated athlete who was very helpful & kind to younger team mates.
I give her the benefit of the… Read more »

commonwombat
Reply to  STRAIGHTBLACKLINE
2 months ago

Perhaps she’s somewhat unlucky at being the next Aussie to front the tribunal for such an offence after a number of others were probably lucky to get light sentences or “got off”; and thus copped a tough sentence; but it was her carelessness that got her there. They are all fully educated to take care with supplements/OOC meds as well as testing regimes but too many seem to have zoned out given the evidence of certain AUS cases over the past 4-5 years.

Drama King
Reply to  STRAIGHTBLACKLINE
2 months ago

Fair to say, they way she fought for herself and her career throughout this saga, i haven’t seen such courage from anyone. Even the bigger names like Efimova, Sun Yang and other haven’t made out to public openly on the doping issue. But she did.

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