Cal Men, Texas Women Surge To Top Of Second CSCAA Dual Meet Poll

Editor’s Note: SwimSwam is not on the voting panel for the CSCAA Dual Meet Rankings, but the rankings are posted as a courtesy to the CSCAA. See our most recent men’s Power Rankings here and women’s Power Rankings here.

There are some major shakeups in the second round of the CSCAA (College Swimming Coaches Association of America) Division I dual meet polls. There’s a Texas team on top, but it’s not the four-time defending champion men’s program – it’s the Longhorn women.

Texas’s women rose from 4th to 1st from the preseason polls two weeks ago. That comes after big wins against Indiana and Florida on the road. Meanwhile on the men’s side, Texas lost to Indiana and Florida in that same triangular, and now rank just fifth in the nation. The Cal men have taken over the #1 spot after easy wins vs Pacific and Utah, while the defending NCAA champion Stanford women sit #2 behind Texas.

You can find the full CSCAA ranks below, or on their website here.

Division I Men

Rank Prev Team Points
1 2 California 324
2 3 Indiana 313
3 8 Florida 289
4 4 NC State 285
5 1 Texas 276
6 6 Michigan 258
7 5 Stanford 249
8 7 Southern California 232
9 9 Georgia 208
10 16 Ohio State 193
11 17 Alabama 191
12 10 Texas A&M 172
13 11 Louisville 162
14 14 Arizona State 144
15 12 Tennessee 140
16 15 Virginia 125
17 NR Georgia Tech 100
18 23 Notre Dame 99
19 22 Missouri 89
20 18 Minnesota 75
21 20 Florida State 62
21 13 Arizona 62
23 19 Harvard 61
24 NR Wisconsin 28
25 20/NR Purdue/Pittsburgh 23

 

Also Receiving Votes:

Utah (12), Miami (OH) (10), Virginia Tech (6), Duke (6), Kentucky (3), Auburn (2), George Washington (1), Louisiana State (1), West Virginia

Men’s Poll Committee

Brian Schrader, Denver;     Steve Schaffer, Grand Canyon ;     Bill Roberts Navy;   Craig Nisgor, Seattle;     McGee Moody South Carolina;    Chad Cradock UMBC;    Chase Bloch, USC;   Jason Calanog, Texas A&M;     Ashley Dell, Iowa;     Damion Dennis, West Virginia;    Dan Kesler, Arizona State;    Neal Studd, Florida State;    Jamie Holder, Dartmouth;     Kevin Woodhull-Smith, East Carolina

 

Division I Women

Rank Prev Team Points
1 4 Texas 298
2 1 Stanford 286
3 3 Michigan 276
4 11 NC State 265
5 2 California 250
5 5 Texas A&M 230
7 10 Virginia 223
8 8 Louisville 212
9 6 Indiana 195
10 19 Florida 189
11 7 Georgia 184
11 11 Southern California 184
13 18 Notre Dame 144
14 20 Wisconsin 127
15 17 Ohio State 114
16 13 Minnesota 109
17 16 Auburn 101
18 14 Kentucky 97
19 NR South Carolina 94
20 22 Duke 71
21 25 Florida State 63
22 NR Akron 55
23 23 Arkansas 40
24 9 Tennessee 31
25 NR/21 Alabama/Arizona 17

 

Also Receiving Votes:

Missouri (14), Arizona State (6), Northwestern (4), UCLA (2), Virginia Tech (1), Utah (1)

Women’s Poll Committee

Colleen Murphy, Air Force;   Dan Colella, Duke;   Ryan Wochomurka, Houston;  Lars Jorgenson, Kentucky;  Naya Higashijima, UCLA;  Jennifer Buffin, Oregon State;     David Geyer, LSU;     Neil Harper, Arkansas;     Jesse Moore, Minnesota;     Kristy Brager, Wisconsin;     Niko Fantakis, Brown;     April Jensen, Notre Dame;    Nathan Lavery, TCU;

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2 Cents
6 years ago

So the top of the rankings are okay, and make sense but has as few major flaws (but all in top 5 belong somewhere in top 5) … after the top portion, things get “iffy” at best. Even if you base on current results, UVA women at 7 is just wrong. They finished 3rd at the SMU invite, HANDILY behind Louisville and comfortably behind USC…. yet they are ranked higher than both?!?!? Really?!? We will see if Auburn is really that bad tomorrow when they face off vs UVA. GT, does seem very overrated. Texas men at 5?!? and Texas women at #1?!? C’mon now. Stanford women not #1??!? I mean… that right there makes this all a joke doesnt… Read more »

Longhorn
Reply to  2 Cents
6 years ago

How I interpret the polls is the rankings referred to how the teams are currently performing at dual meets. That being said I think Texas men at 5 is fair. It’s not really saying that the polls are projecting these rankings as final standings in March.

DaFIRE
6 years ago

These mean nothing… I mean Kentucky men beat Notre Dame and ND is #18 and UK isn’t even ranked, plus Notre Dame beat GT but still ranked lower…doesn’t make much sense

PPKL
6 years ago

NC State only School in the nation with both men’s and women’s team and the top four.

Superfan
6 years ago

These polls should wait until after Winter Invites, like the only poll in football that counts. Many of these teams have either swim one or no meets yet

tnp101
6 years ago

This CSCAA Dual met poll is useless. Look at the voters. If Texas and Stanford women’s were in a dual meet, Stanford would win.

Swimobserver
Reply to  tnp101
6 years ago

And it wouldn’t even be that close.

Troy
Reply to  Swimobserver
6 years ago

Actually based on results I have to disagree. Texas girls been swimming real fast in season compared to what Stanford has it would be close.for sure

Admin
Reply to  Troy
6 years ago

According to the actual real-life results comparing Texas’ swims from the Texas-Indiana-Florida tri to Stanford’s meet vs. Utah, Texas wins 173-85.

https://swimswam.com/swimulator/?type=swimulate&gender=Women&division=D1&division1=D1&team1=Stanford&season1=2019&meet1=Utah+%40+Stanford&division2=D1&team2=Texas&season2=2019&meet2=Texas+vs+Florida+vs+Indiana

With just 1 data point, there’s a whole lot of caveats, not the least of which are the relative intensity of Texas’ first meet to Stanford’s first meet and event selection (the 200 free, 200 medley, no 400 IM lineup favors Texas).

That being said, if you put them in the same pool head-to-head, full NCAA event schedule, with something at stake, I’d probably still take Stanford. But, I agree with Troy – Texas swam really well at their first meet, and Stanford really didn’t.

Right Dude Here
6 years ago

The same reason they don’t rank amateurs with professionals: they don’t rank mortals with gods.

kdswim
6 years ago

Tennessee Women dropped from 9 to 24th and have not had a meet yet.

Admin
Reply to  kdswim
6 years ago

I think the reality is that the CSCAA poll doesn’t have enough voters to make it useful. Too many ripples, too much movement. That’s part of why we started our power rankings – to give a less-reactionary look toward March.

Wethorn
Reply to  Braden Keith
6 years ago

Your power rankings are good and valid. Thanks for that! The coaches poll has zero predictive value for NCAAs and should be taken as comic relief only.

Swim Mom
6 years ago

George Washington??? How did they get a vote!

Admin
Reply to  Swim Mom
6 years ago

Most coaches’ polls release the coaches’ ballots. The CSCAA does not. If they did, then we could all play conspiracy theories with who might have done it. In September, on our volleyball site, we reported on two coaches who inexplicably left the defending NCAA Champions Nebraska off their ballots one week. The next week, they were back, and ranked in the top 10: https://volleymob.com/nebraska-left-off-of-two-poll-submissions-in-avca-coaches-poll/

DMacNCheez
Reply to  Braden Keith
6 years ago

wait wait wait….am I the only one just discovering there is a volleyball clone of swimswam??

2 Cents
Reply to  DMacNCheez
6 years ago

I can dig it.

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