Florida Women Scoreless at NCAAs for the First Time Ever

2017 WOMEN’S NCAA CHAMPIONSHIPS

For the first time in program history, the Florida Gators went scoreless at the women’s NCAA Swimming and Diving Championship. A young Gators’ squad of 13 women, including 7 freshmen, traveled to the meet. While they walked away with a handful of top 30 finishers, the Gators were unable to get on the scoreboard throughout the 4-day meet.

Throughout the history of their program, the Gators have never finished lower than 20th at the NCAA Championship meet, which occurred in 1997. They’ve also never scored fewer than 58 points, which came with their 19th place finish at the 2000 NCAA Championships.

At the 2010 NCAA Championships, the Florida Gators, behind legendary collegian Gemma Spofforth, won the NCAA title by 2.5 points over Stanford. In the 7 years since, Florida has dropped to 0 points, while Stanford now stands as the best collegiate program in the country.

Florida’s drop came in stages. In the years after their title win, they hovered around the bottom half of the top 10. They then fell to 19th at the 2016 NCAA Championships last season.

Florida’s finishes at the NCAA Championships Over 10 Years

  • 2007 – 7th, 203 points
  • 2008 – 6th, 277.5 points
  • 2009 – 7th, 239.5 points
  • 2010 – CHAMPIONS, 382 points
  • 2011 – 7th, 226 points
  • 2012 – 10th, 160 points
  • 2013 – 6th, 305 points
  • 2014 – 6th, 239 points
  • 2015 – 9th, 129 points
  • 2016 – 19th, 63.5 points
  • 2017 – NF, 0 points

4 Florida teams that finished higher than the Gators at NCAAs: Florida St., Florida International, Miami, and Florida Gulf Coast.

It’s worth noting that there were several adversities for the Florida women to overcome this season, including not being able to train or compete in their home facility while the Stephen C. O’Connell center was being renovated. They were also in their first season without former Associate Women’s Head Coach Martyn Wilby, who resigned from the position last May. Their roster was heavily made up of underclassmen, who hadn’t yet experienced the grueling schedule and pressure of an SEC or NCAA Championship meet.

But still – with the NCAA Championships coming up next week, the Florida men seem to have thrived in spite of similar challenges.

The Florida roster has struggled to maintain stability from year-to-year. After graduating a senior class of 9 last season, the Gators had just 3 in 2017. Their class of 2018, meanwhile, shrank from 7 to just 4, and their class of 2019. They lost 3 from their class of 2020 as well.

“It’s been a long week,” said head coach Gregg Troy in a press release. “We certainly weren’t as good as what we wanted to be point-wise, but we got a lot of experience as a really young group. I think it’s going to pay off big for them in the future. We’ve just got to go back and reevaluate and see where we are moving forward.”

Head Coach Gregg Troy will now have 3 more years to work with the several freshmen who qualified for the NCAA meet. They’ll return next season with the valuable experience of competing at NCAAs. The team also gets a sure-fire NCAA scorer in Hungarian Liliana Szilagyi, who didn’t compete this year in her freshman season. She was an Olympic finalist in both the 100 and 200 fly and is one of the best junior swimmers anywhere in the world.

For now, however, the focus turns to the men’s meet, which will take place this week back in Indianapolis, where Caeleb Dressel and the Florida men will shoot for a fourth consecutive top-5 finish.

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Attila the Runt
3 years ago

First to worst in seven years. Time for a full-time women’s coach.

dmswim
Reply to  Attila the Runt
3 years ago

Not quite worst–plenty of Div, 1 teams didn’t have anyone compete at the NCAA championships.

Bigly
Reply to  dmswim
3 years ago

Sooo…. tied for worst at zero points? Is that your point?

coacherik
Reply to  dmswim
3 years ago

It’s just a phrase, like “worst to first”, used to illustrate a point of how far they have fallen at NCs. Thanks for the glass half full frame of mind though…

More Parties at FSU please
3 years ago

It’s time coach troy stepped down from Women’s swimming, its clear he has never been able to put a strong women’s team together. He can’t recruit women especially, shame for the Gator program but you can only blame the coach at this point. A young team is a poor excuse

korn
Reply to  Lauren Neidigh
3 years ago

I agree people are making too much of this but i don’t buy the excuse that frosh and sophomores are too young to swim fast……not in our sport and not for women. That is just an excuse.

Uberfan
Reply to  More Parties at FSU please
3 years ago

Was he not the coach when they won the championship?

El Chopte
Reply to  More Parties at FSU please
3 years ago

You obviously are an expert. Coach anyone lately?

meeee
Reply to  More Parties at FSU please
3 years ago

The problem is athletic budgets. Combined coaching staffs are touted as a financial necessity. If he quits coaching the women then he effectively quits coaching period at FL

bobo gigi
Reply to  meeee
3 years ago

Recruit big talents and you will have results. You can’t transform donkeys into racehorses by magic. Hopefully for Florida that Isabel Ivey will go there for example. Morgan Tankersley too. Try to recruit these great local talents. It would be a good boost. In the last few years I have the impression that 90% of the top US juniors go to Stanford or Cal. Why the best US prospects don’t go to Florida anymore? Last star at Florida? Beisel?

korn
Reply to  bobo gigi
3 years ago

I say siimilar…can’t make steak out of hamburger! I think his main problem is that not everyone (especially girls) can handle his in your face style of coaching. That is why the studs aren’t looking at UF.

Speed Racer
Reply to  korn
3 years ago

True dat. Swimming for UF might be tough if you were not exposed to hard in your face coaching. “To your limits, in your face” coaching is who and what they are and what they always have been.

Apple
Reply to  bobo gigi
3 years ago

Stanford and Cal offer a higher quality education and much more prestigious degrees than Florida. That has to be a huge factor for swimmers who excel in the classroom.

underdog
Reply to  bobo gigi
3 years ago

I disagree. Take NC State for example, girls coming there could be considered “donkeys,” but they sure do come out as racehorses. Kayla Brumbaum went from a 1:02.5 100 breast in high school to a :58.5 scoring top 8 at NCAA’s. And that is just one example. It’s about the team, coaches, and work effort.

Catch22
Reply to  bobo gigi
3 years ago

Bobo, I usually agree with your assessments but here you are wrong. To refer to these young women as donkeys is crass and totally out of line. Anyone making NCAAs deserves a little more respect than people seem willing to give. And it takes more than a ‘star’ to succeed. No, there was not a ‘Beisel’ in the group but even with Beisel UF failed to crack the top 5, finishing as low as 10th. That they didn’t score at this meet and some did not have a good meet does not give ANYONE the right to denigrate them.

Chris
3 years ago

Seems like the author of this article has some personal bias. In a time where everyone is so sensitive, an article written like this seems solely for the purpose of stirring up controversy. Talent ebbs and flows, Florida may be down now but they will be back

Chris
Reply to  Lauren Neidigh
3 years ago

Hey Lauren, part of the thought process to that comment was me reading that you are a FSU grad student. I know that I am assuming bias, but this is a whole article written to point out the failure of 13 women to score any points on a team that formerly won NCAA’s.

You did only make note of the facts and it is an interesting well written article. I can’t believe though that there is not more intent in this than simply an observation.

But it is your job to observe, and its a good story, so I think I’m just trolling. Keep up the good work, I enjoy the site

Chris
Reply to  Lauren Neidigh
3 years ago

My point is that you are not an unbiased third party that wrote this article. You are a former team member and you have also chosen to engage with the comments on this article. This article was written with the intent to illicit a response. Since we know that you were involved with the program, my question is what was your intent in writing the article? Why did you leave Florida? and was your departure from the program part of the reason you decided to point this out?

Chris
Reply to  Lauren Neidigh
3 years ago

To have a former swimmer of the program who transferred away write the article already creates a bias no matter how thoroughly edited. Of course you are not obligated to give any explanation as to why you transferred but you did go through great detail to explain how the program has been diminishing the last several years. This is a site that has a lot of following here in the US and internationally and you wrote an article about a program with a lot of notoriety, that you were part of and left. As a journalist you would have to know the type response this article would have on the opinions of the readers, the Florida program, and the coaching… Read more »

Irviner
Reply to  Chris
3 years ago

Chris, you keep on insisting Lauren is biased in writing this article however she has explained that the point of the article is purely factual and was requested by multiple commenters (see comment section of the ncaa recaps) and she has written it objectively after her boss requested her to. You keep repeating this same baseless accusation, with no evidence of any passages to support your claim. So please, leave Lauren alone and stop prying into her personal life for no reason. Respect her abilities as a journalist.

Swammer
Reply to  Chris
3 years ago

hey chris – can you get a life and leave her alone? this article is perfectly fine and the topic is well worth reporting on. any biases she may or may not have do not come through in the article, and she chose to engage with you in the comments because you questioned her integrity. i encourage you to do something productive with your life instead of trashing a good SwimSwam reporter.

Spencer
Reply to  Swammer
3 years ago

Boom. Swammer, thank you. Chris, get a life or job that takes more of your time. It’s the middle of the afternoon on Monday and Lauren is just doing her job, and well.

bobo gigi
Reply to  Swammer
3 years ago

Since the clown of the White House trashes the journalists who make their jobs, I see that it gives ideas to other people. Bash journalists. Alternative facts. Sad period.

Admin
Reply to  Chris
3 years ago

Hi Chris, as pointed out, I edited this article before it went live, and I went to neither Florida nor Florida State. I’ve only been to the state of Florida twice in my life: once for Open Water Nationals, and once for a family vacation when I was 12. I did attend Texas A&AM, but I did not swim there, and that was before the two were in the same conference. Are there any other concerns of bias that I can address for you? If so, feel free to email me [email protected] and I’d be happy to go through them all with you one-by-one until you’re satisfied. All of our writers went to college somewhere, as I assume you did.… Read more »

ERVINFORTHEWIN
Reply to  Chris
3 years ago

time to let go now ……

Kim Nava
Reply to  Chris
3 years ago

It’s important to point out that “unbiased” is impossible to achieve. That being said, I do agree that this is absolutely news worthy. I think it is important to ask what happened here. All coaches, especially head coaches should be held to account for their results. After all, the athletes are. Especially in a sport like swimming, the numbers never lie. Just because a coach is highly regarded and respected, doesn’t mean it’s hands off asking the hard questions. Coach Troy is tough enough to handle it and he does need to be challenged to bring the women’s program back. As a Gator, I am saddened and embarrassed that they did not score a single point. It’s simply a great… Read more »

The Grand Inquisitor
Reply to  Chris
3 years ago

Sorry, I respectfully disagree. It’s news and worth noting when a program which has consistently finished in the top 10 suddenly fails to score a single point. Questions need to be asked – what’s changed? Questions also need to be asked about UCLA – how can a a program so consistently under perform relative to their recruiting talent over such a sustained period of time?

About Lauren Neidigh

Lauren Neidigh

Lauren Neidigh is a former NCAA swimmer at the University of Arizona (2013-2015) and the University of Florida (2011-2013). While her college swimming career left a bit to be desired, her Snapchat chin selfies and hot takes on Twitter do not disappoint. She's also a high school graduate of The …

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