Updating Relay Projections: British Men On the Move

Like we did earlier this week, let’s take a look at some updated relay placing projections based on how well each leg has swum so far here in Rio.

As we did before, let’s make a couple things clear about these projections:

  • THESE ARE NOT FINAL TIME PROJECTIONS. These composite times are more focused on placing, comparing each team to the other teams in medal contention based on adding up the best times in each 100-meter stroke event.
  • THESE TIMES DO NOT FACTOR IN RELAY EXCHANGES. The breaststroke and butterfly legs in each composite time come from the best swim that nation has in the individual 100 breast or fly. A relay exchange would likely take around a half-second off that time, provided the swimmer swims the exact same race he/she did in the individual event.
  • Some freestyle legs also don’t include relay starts. By and large, we used the top splits from the 4×100 free relays, which do include flying start boosts. But in some cases, the best leg of that relay was a leadoff. In those cases, we’ve marked the split with an asterisk (*).
  • In two cases, we haven’t seen the likely swimmer swim that individual race in Rio. Sweden will probably use the versatile Michelle Coleman as their backstroker, but she has only swum freestyle in Rio. We used her season-best and marked it with italics. France didn’t enter a male breaststroker at Rio, so we used their season-best from Theo Bussiere.

We’ve still got the men’s 100 fly final coming up, which could tweak these projections before the medley relay final. In the 100 free, we didn’t use any individual flat-start times unless they actually beat that nation’s best relay split (even if the flat-start time would likely be faster with a relay exchange), so that’s another area with some wiggle room – most notably for the American women, where Simone Manuel‘s 52.70 flat start would project a lot faster than Abbey Weitzeil‘s relay split.

Women’s Projections

Top Three:

USA Australia Canada
Kathleen Baker 58.75 Emily Seebohm 58.99 Kylie Masse 58.76
Lilly King 1:04.93 Taylor McKeown 1:06.73 Rachel Nicol 1:06.68
Dana Vollmer 56.56 Emma McKeon 56.81 Penny Oleksiak 56.46
Abbey Weitzeil 52.56 Cate Campbell 51.80 Chantal van Landeghem 52.90
3:52.80 3:54.33 3:54.80

Others:

China Denmark Sweden Russia
Fu Yuanhui 58.76 Mie Nielsen 58.80 Michelle Coleman 1:01.18 Anastasia Zuyeva 1:00.04
Shi Jinglin 1:06.31 Rikke Moller Pedersen 1:06.58 Jennie Johansson 1:06.84 Yulia Efimova 1:05.50
Chen Xinyi 56.72 Jeanette Ottesen 57.15 Sarah Sjöström 55.48 Svetlana Chimrova 58.41
Shen Duo 53.84 Pernille Blume 54.15* Louise Hansson 54.54 Veronika Popova 54.35*
3:55.63 3:56.68* 3:58.04 3:58.30*

Men’s Projections

Top Three:

USA Australia Great Britain
Ryan Murphy 51.97 Mitch Larkin 52.43 Chris Walker-Hebborn 53.54
Cody Miller 58.87 Jake Packard 59.26 Adam Peaty 57.13
Michael Phelps 51.58 David Morgan 51.75 James Guy 51.78
Nathan Adrian 46.97 Cameron McEvoy 47.00 Duncan Scott 48.01*
3:29.39 3:30.44 3:30.46*

Others:

China Russia Japan France
Xu Jiayu 52.31 Evgeny Rylov 52.74 Ryosuke Irie 53.21 Camille Lacourt 52.70
Li Xiang 59.55 Vsevold Zanko 59.91 Yasuhiro Koseki 58.91 Theo Bussiere 1:01.35
Li Zhuhao 51.51 Alexander Sadovnikov 51.71 Takuro Fujii 52.36 Mehdy Metella 51.71
Ning Zetao 48.37* Vladimir Morozov 47.31 Katsumi Nakamura 47.99* Jeremy Stravius 47.11
3:31.74* 3:31.87 3:32.47 3:32.87

What it means

The United States still looks like the favorites in both relays, and that’s even without Michael Phelps showing his whole hand in the 100 fly as of yet. If his past swims in Rio (particularly his other relay legs) are any indicator, Phelps has a real chance to put the race out of range by the end of his leg.

Australia has struggled, but still have big-time talent, especially on back and free. David Morgan is done in the 100 fly, so their individual times won’t change any by the relay. They’ll also have an interesting anchor choice: do you use Cameron McEvoy, who rattled the world record and still leads the world ranks, plus split 47.00 on the 4×100 free relay? Or do you swap for Olympic champ Kyle Chalmers, a younger and perhaps more risky gamble, but one who is red-hot and doing his best swimming right now?

The British men have made big strides, with James Guy and Duncan Scott both swimming much faster than Great Britain’s previous projections on the fly and free legs. They’re still weak in backstroke, but a game-changing breaststroke leg from Adam Peaty could have the Brits knocking off Australia for silver – that is, if Scott can hold off whoever the Aussies anchor with.

Not much change in the contenders for the women, but the intrigue comes in the anchor legs. Conventional wisdom would say Cate Campbell could be much faster than 51.8 for Australia after going 52.0 from a flat start last month. But she was upset for the gold last night by American Simone Manuel (and Canadian Penny Oleksiak, who will more likely swim fly on this relay).

Manuel’s 52.70 swim suggests she could perform better than the split projected here – a 52.56 from Abbey Weitzeil on the 4×100 free relay – and Manuel’s individual gold medal probably earns her the finals spot.

Oleksiak and Canada are on fire, and seem like great bets for the bronze medal, sitting almost a second up on China right now.

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Jack
8 years ago

If walker hebborn can go a 52 I think Great Britain can win

MegaSwimmer999
8 years ago

PLEASE tell Cody Miller not to do multiple fly kicks on the breastroke pullouts. I am TERRIBLY worried about this given what he did in the individual. This will be Phelps’ last race.

alpha1
8 years ago

USA women’s “B” team would win gold.

Pau Hana
8 years ago

Dumping the gold medalist in the 100 free for the 7th place finisher would make the Weir/Vollmer or Conger/Phelps/Lochte argument seem tame. 🙂

ice
8 years ago

Australia should use Kyle Chalmers for the freestyle leg, he’s riding high on confidence and his heats split wasnt far off McEvoy’s finals split.

I’d personally got for Madi Wilson over Emily Seebohm for the backstroke leg. So many question marks regarding her that Madi looks a safer bet, at least a low 59s. Who knows what Seebohm will pump out at this point

Jim Graham
Reply to  ice
8 years ago

I’d say there is a 99.9% chance that AUS will use Chalmers for the freestyle leg.

iLikePsych
Reply to  ice
8 years ago

Agree with both of these, from a ‘fairness’ viewpoint.

Lp Man
8 years ago

I’m getting more and more worried about the British men. If their back stoker can keep it within a second, we will have a tough time

SHM
Reply to  Lp Man
8 years ago

Oh plea your going to smoke us id be so proud of a bronze medal let alone a gold

Captain Awesome
Reply to  Lp Man
8 years ago

SHM is right, you’ll run away with this race. It might be close between us and the Aussies though.

Lp Man
Reply to  Captain Awesome
8 years ago

I hope you are both right, but if Peaty throws down a 56 100 breast and puts the Brits ahead by .5 going into fly, it could be interesting

Pvdh
Reply to  Lp Man
8 years ago

Phelps will blow their flyer away and Adrian will closer better than Scott.

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