# Time Standards Need To Be Implemented At the FINA Champions Series

James Sutherland
##### by James Sutherland 58

June 03rd, 2019

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The debut of the FINA Champions Series over the last month has been exciting for both swimmers and fans alike.

Four of the world’s best, competing head-to-head in a timed final format for a relatively large sum of money. It not only incentivizes the athletes to show up and compete but is also more digestible and visually appealing for the viewer.

And now with the three legs of 2019 in the books, I have to say I’ve enjoyed it. It’s not often we get to see some of the biggest names in the sport face off with something on the line, and the majority of the events have yielded some very fast times and intriguing races.

But, of course, there were some issues.

One that stood out upon first reading the rules was that all four swimmers would get paid, and quite well at that.

For example, at the 2017 World Championships, a swimmer would earn $5,000 USD for placing fourth in an individual event. At the FINA Champions Series, in a field of four, placing fourth earned you the same amount. Now, this prize pool is all part of the incentive for athletes to disrupt their training cycle and compete, and I think paying all four swimmers can still work. But there needs to be some sort of standard put in place. Danas Rapsys‘ performance in the men’s 200 back is what really highlighted this. Clearly wanting to save up for the 400 free which would go about 40 minutes later, he blatantly threw the race and swam a time over 17 seconds slower than both his best time (1:56.11) and the winning time from Jacob Pebley (1:56.35) in 2:14.02. Both the comment section in our live recap and Olympic champion Roland Schoeman on Twitter saw what happened and weren’t too pleased. And this isn’t a knock on Rapsys. He knew he would face no consequences for it, and he followed through. He has been one of the more captivating swimmers to watch over the three stops, and has set himself up for a big summer after producing some very impressive times in the 200 and 400 freestyle. However, it’s not a good look for the event. And while I don’t think it would be fair to penalize someone, who, say, was swimming their third event of the session and just ran out of gas and ended up going a relatively slow time, throwing a race in such obvious fashion shouldn’t be rewarded. There is a fine line there, and I think the answer is to implement some kind of standard an athlete must attain in order to earn their money. It doesn’t have to be crazy fast. We’re not talking British World Championship qualifying times here. Just something in place to prevent what Rapsys exploited in that 200 back. Even if a swimmer was in the midst of heavy training and had just finished another race 10 minutes earlier, all a world-class 200 backstroker would have to do is put in an ounce of effort to be significantly faster than 2:14. That swim scored 582 FINA points. If we were to go the route of using the points table to determine the required time to earn money, 750 looks to be about right. In the men’s 200 back that would be a time of 2:03.18, which would’ve given Rapsys seven seconds to add from his best to still get paid. The only other swim to fall short of 750 FINA points was the 2:08.33 200 IM (701) from Zach Harting, who probably shouldn’t have been entered in that event with only one career swim (three years ago) sub-2:05 – sounds like a last minute ‘someone needs to swim this.’ Leah Smith‘s 2:14.04 200 fly hit the number right on the nose, and Andrii Govorov slipped by in the 100 fly with 764. The swim from Rapsys was really the first time we’ve seen someone throw a race in such an obvious way, so it’s not like it’s an ongoing problem, but it’s one that will happen every now and then if a rule isn’t put into place. Other shortcomings include the lack of spectators – there were only about 1,000 fans at the meet on Friday evening. While Saturday was a bigger crowd, the arena still was not nearly full (only one side of the seating was used, and that side was mostly full, but not to-the-brim, on Saturday), with estimates at about 1,500. This could be a bad sign for the pending ISL, which is counting on being able to fill bigger facilities like Indy (and including Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas for the championship). ### In This Story ### 58 Leave a Reply Subscribe Notify of 58 Comments Inline Feedbacks View all comments run-dmc 2 years ago The prize money should be as follows: 1st: 10 x fina points 2nd: 8 x fina points 3rd: 6 x fina points 4th: 5 x fina points if at least 800 points; else,$1000.

I’m all for paying swimmers more, but we need to reward fast swimming.

2 years ago

Ooooh this is an interesting idea, I kind of like it.

Teddy
2 years ago

Pretty good idea, but it would mean people in events with strong world records would be perpetually underpaid.

Ledecky’s WRs would be a good example where this would happen.

An alternative would be a fixed prize for the winner (with record bonus incentives—WR, and fina champions series or more like world leading time) and then the cash multiplier correction applied to 2,3,4 based off of the winner’s time’s fina points.

One way would be using the winners time as the base time for calculating fina points, instead of the world record.

It would be complicated for fans to follow and they would have to work it out so 2nd never got more than 1st.

2 years ago

Fun… Haven’t read the complete thread…but I THINK that if a swimmer is sand-bagging for 4th for \$5,000—if other three swimmers get out of the pool before the sand-bagger finishes, they get the sand-bagger 5k and split it evenly between them. This is a game. You should be able to team up and snag rev in fun ways. We’re looking for drama in sports. That creates drama.

Reply to  Gold Medal Mel Stewart
2 years ago

….thinking more….and FINA or ISL would never do this but………. What if you could take your competitor’s purse by exiting the pool before they finish the race? Meaning–you win, but you could take the 2nd place finisher’s purse by exiting the pool before they touch the wall? And 2nd can do the same to 3rd place, and 3rd to 4th place. That would be so harsh, but you would watch that play-out and feel the tension, waiting to see if anyone tried it….and some folks would for sure. The upside — pure drama. Also, distance swimmers could make more money than sprinters for once in their career in purse competitions…..Again, probably way too harsh for our sport, and I cannot… Read more »

Klorn8d
Reply to  Gold Medal Mel Stewart
2 years ago

could work and be kinda fun but you could still probably sandbag the 50s and get in before they get out and I know they don’t do distance races but in the 400 you can finish last by 5 seconds or so and still be giving your best

Snarky
Reply to  Gold Medal Mel Stewart
2 years ago

Love it Mel.

NM Coach
2 years ago

What would work is to expand the field to 6/event and pay the top 4. Then you wouldn’t have people lay down knowing they get 5k no matter what.

Fins
2 years ago

I agree and maybe add a wild card invite per event or stroke, male and female based on their current world ranking. Inject some fresh blood that may take advantage of the opportunity!

Nswim
2 years ago

That would be great for swimmers like Lazor, not having won a world or Olympic medal, but having a breakout season

Taa
2 years ago

Let’s fans pick one of the swimmers.

MichiganFan
2 years ago

Dean’s too busy

PVSFree
2 years ago

But for the fifth and sixth place swimmers would face the prospect of losing money in terms of travel fees

2 years ago

Travel expenses are covered for all athletes. All participating athletes also receive an “engagement fee” for attending and spending at least one hour doing ‘media’ events, swim clinics, community visits, etc.

Fat Swammer
2 years ago

Prelims/finals. Invite 8 or 12 (with travel/lodging covered). Pay 4.

Coach Coach
2 years ago

Perhaps the best method would be the 4th place swimmer cannot be more than n% slower than 1st place. EX if Ryan murphy goes 52.9 in the 100 back then 4th place can’t be more than 3% slower (about 54.5). It seems like the point of this meet is to watch exciting races where four people are competing closely the entire race. Knowing you need to race 1st place instead of just thinking about a time standard to get your money would probably be better.

Yabo
2 years ago

Rip to everyone trying to race ledecky

13 % Chinese person
2 years ago

If KL were to swim 3..59.9 then – 3% is 4.07 . That has been done in the series by Wang Li Hosszu Margolis . .Plenty of others out there who have not been invited.

13 % Chinese person
Reply to  13 % Chinese person
2 years ago

AT is so far a full second ahead of KL in the 200 so likely , she could win that . If KL were to be put in the 400im or the 100 plenty could beat her . But it is all theoretical & you should not be so dismisdive of all the other girls . Im sure KL is not .

Snarky
Reply to  13 % Chinese person
2 years ago

Whats the other 87%?

13 % Chinese person
2 years ago

Southern England .

DRUKSTOP
2 years ago

I mean if they’re going to force a swimmer to swim an event that he doesn’t really want to do, is it really a big deal that he doesn’t try?

Fins
2 years ago

Forced? It’s based on invite. Plus they’re getting paid!

Superfan
2 years ago

The people you are talking about were not picked to swim these “off” events. He was picked to swim 200 and 400 and he did quite well in them.

Eagleswim
2 years ago

This is a complicated issue with a lot of interesting aspects as we try to figure out more ways to elevate the sport that we all love, but this is a really bad take.

Fat Swammer
2 years ago

I mean, if you asked me to swim a 200 back for 5k. I’d do it.

Anonymoose
2 years ago

Schoemans tweet definitely does sound like a knock on rapsys tho. Or at least he didnt clarify if he saw the fault in fina or in rapsys.

Superfan
2 years ago

Many people thought Ervin’s 50s was just as embarrassing. He is the defending Olympic champion. He earned the spot but chose not to seriously train for this event but Roland would never point out another sprinter. These other people weren’t picked to swim these events based on the given criteria but were lane fillers so to speak!

Dan not Stan
2 years ago

You definitely don’t sound too super

DrSwimPhil
2 years ago

Difference is Ervin was at least putting forth effort. Rapsys wasn’t.

Superfan
2 years ago

What happens if an athlete backs out or is injured and there is an empty lane or two? That would look worse!
Invite more swimmers and then that costs a lot more.
I don’t think penalizing 4th place is the right thing to do. I think look more at how they pick the athletes and fill the lanes! Some events had 4 Americans. In Budapest, they filled the lanes with Hungarians. I think this is more important project thAn punishing those that got their arm twisted so empty lanes weren’t there!

Dude
2 years ago

Is there a video of the race?

ERVINFORTHEWIN
2 years ago

on finaTV , u can re-watch them ….

Jimbo
2 years ago

See I can see this both ways. I didn’t like to see him throw the race but I’m the other hand my coach has told me not to try on certain races. So I mean I can’t say much. You can’t really hold a person to going 100% all the time. Even if they don’t need to.

Fins
2 years ago

It’s taken years for swimming to get to this point, where a swimmer can get paid for competing. It’s a shame to have swimmers not appreciate and understand the full meaning of this. It’s not a right it’s a privilege to be invited to race at this series. There are several other swimmers who gladly would have raced, given it their full effort and put on a good show.
He would have known his schedule going in, presumably he could have declined this event and focused on others.
The swimming community as a whole is trying to elevate the sport so swimmers can make a career out of it and to increase funding provided to the sport. He… Read more »

Jimbo
2 years ago

He didn’t really let anyone down this is his career not anyone elses

Fins
2 years ago

He let the sport down is my point. He didn’t do his part to advance this movement. If the goal here is to elevate the sport and to increase fans, viewership and funding, then anyone who isn’t help push this forward is letting the Team down.

Fat Swammer
2 years ago

An athlete’s time in prime is so short. My thinking on this has evolved a lot in the last few years. If you have a shot to be pro, go for it. For as long as you can, as soon as you can. Years won’t pay you back. If anything, the time takes it from you.

No one swimmer owes the sport a thing (though it’s fair to question why These opportunities weren’t around sooner!).

I have no issues with the swim. Good for him.