SwimSwam Pulse: 56% Pick IU’s Texas/Florida Wins As Most Impressive

SwimSwam Pulse is a recurring feature tracking and analyzing the results of our periodic A3 Performance Polls. You can cast your vote in our newest poll on the SwimSwam homepage, about halfway down the page on the right side, or you can find the poll embedded at the bottom of this post.

Our most recent poll asked SwimSwam readers for the most impressive NCAA upset of the season so far:

RESULTS

Question: What is the most impressive upset of NCAA season so far?

  • Indiana men over Texas & Florida – 56.5%
  • Notre Dame women over Louisville – 30.7%
  • Other – 12.8%

More than half of voters selected Indiana’s wins over Texas and Florida as the upset of the NCAA season so far.

IU’s wins weren’t exactly unprecedented – in fact, they won this same triangular last year. On the other hand, Texas is the three-time defending NCAA champion and Florida finished third last year, adding weight to IU’s win.

Notre Dame’s win over Louisville took almost a third of votes. That one carries the weight of Notre Dame – an unranked team that took 44th at NCAAs last year – beating one of the more exciting young teams in the nation, and a Cardinal crew that finished 6th in 2017. On the other hand, the win is tempered a little by Louisville’s generally lackluster dual meet record (the team went on to lose to Michigan and Tennessee) coupled with its clear priority focus on championship meets like the SMU Classic, where the Cardinals performed much, much better than they have in dual meets.

The poll also brought up the question of what constitutes an upset, as some were upset (pun intended) that we termed IU’s win an upset after it had happened a year ago as well. One could certainly take a ranking-based approach to defining upsets (a lower-ranked team beating a higher-ranked one is always an upset), or one could base it on last year’s NCAA finish. But past performance doesn’t seem to be a great definer for upsets – after all, a team can put together a string of “upsets” over the same team in consecutive years.

That discussion is part of a bigger swimming theme – how we evaluate dual meet results. Certainly the dreaded r-word (“they r*sted”) will be thrown around plenty, but fan speculation on how each team prepared is hardly sufficient to disqualify a result as a true “upset.”

Beyond those two meets, 12% selected “other” as the biggest upset of the season – perhaps not defining either result as an upset, or favoring a different meet result, of which there were too many to fit into one list of poll results.

 

Below, vote in our new A3 Performance Pollwhich asks voters which notable NCAA absence should be most worrisome for their team moving forward:

Which absent swimmer is most worrisome for their NCAA team?

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Uberfan
7 years ago

Most worrisome for me is Gunnar, A finalist in 3 events, and while Simone may have more relay value and individual value, Stanford won’t take as big of a hit without her. Gunnar may be Georgia’s best chance to get 3 A finals

Uberfan
7 years ago

This is an example of so many readers riding Texas’s and Caelebs jock. Them beating a team they beat last year should not be a surprise especially since Texas is not as good as they were last year.
But Notre Dame beating what has become quite the force in women’s swimming led by maybe the second most valuable female swimmer after Ledecky is pretty crazy to me

Sir Swimsalot
7 years ago

On this new poll, I went with Gunnar, because his injury is seeming to last longer and impact his training more than Manuel’s. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

ex quaker
Reply to  Sir Swimsalot
7 years ago

I chose to look at it as how much the loss of the swimmer could affect the team standings at NCAAs. Without Manuel, I daresay Stanford is still the clear pick for NCAA champions- at absolute worst, probably runner up. Georgia (returning no. 8) definitely suffers more without Bentz, but I actually went with Almeida. Bentz may be worth a few more points at the meet (and maybe some 800 free relay points too) but Almeida has enough potential that his not competing at the meet would drop South Carolina’s (returning no. 15) team placing further than Georgia’s would fall.

ex quaker
7 years ago

Doesn’t quite make sense to me. Texas and Florida are better teams at NCAAs, sure, but on completely different training cycles. Indiana won both meets last year too so I wasn’t too surprised.

Sir Swimsalot
Reply to  ex quaker
7 years ago

Yeah I didn’t remember that Indiana won the same meeting last year. I knew Texas didn’t care much for dual meets anyways, but with Florida in the mix I thought it made it more impressive. Now knowing what I know I should’ve gone with the ND win.

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