See Michael Phelps’ first 200 IM since the London Olympics – Race Video

  81 Gold Medal Mel Stewart | June 23rd, 2014 | Featured, International, News, Press Releases, US Grand Prix, Video

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2014 Arena Grand Prix at Santa Clara

Men’s 200 IM – FINALS

Rowdy Gaines talked to Dwyer before the race and informed him that if he won the race, he would win the Grand Prix series. Dwyer suddenly felt the pressure as he wasn’t aware of the points race before hand. He handled the pressure well, fighting through the final 50 against Chase Kalisz and Michael Phelps to win the 200 IM. Dwyer got his hand on the wall to win the race at 1:59.49.
Conor Dwyer, Michael Phelps, and Chase Kalisz all came off the wall dead even at the 150 meter mark. Chase Kalisz is a monster in the back half of the IM, but he wasnt enough for Dwyer today. Kalisz finished second at 1:59.53 and Phelps was third at 1:59.76. Max Williamson finished fourth at 2:01.71 and Gunnar Bentz was fifth at 2:02.17.

Jay Litherland won the B-final of the men’s 200 IM with a time of 2:03.83.

Comments

  1. Sven says:
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    something something Phelps breathing something something can’t see Dwyer.

    Don’t ever change, Rowdy.

    • swimsam says:
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      great race proving how great phelps really is. 2 years off and hes either winning or almost winning all of his races. im just upset that well never get to see him swim the 200 fly again.

      • aswimfan says:
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        Phelps is great but he’s not two years off.

        He was already swimming in competition early this year, and before that he was already in the doping test pool 9 months prior, which means he was entered in the doping test pool by June 2013 at the latest. London was in August 2012, so this means Phelps was not in training officially for less than a year.

    • coach says:
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      Rowdy being Rowdy.

  2. We Love Phelps says:
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    Phelps will get back to his competitive form soon and will stun the world once again at the biggest meet. We love you MP! :-D

  3. Steve Nolan says:
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    Well, see half of his IM.

  4. Danjohnrob says:
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    Did anybody else wonder whether Dwyer asked Phelps to let him win the $20,000.00 and the car? LOL! Phelps certainly did as well as/better than his fans could have expected this weekend, but I don’t think he’s going to be ready to swim the 200 IM at PanPacs, so I think he should put that event off until next season.

  5. Kevin T says:
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    If this were back in 2007…….I would say Michael Phelps has absolutely nothing to worry about. Remember back in the day MP would swim “slow” times in these types of meets and shave off all the time he needed to just at the right moment at the big meet at the end of the summer.

    Same thing with his 100 fly. I would say 52.1, absolutely nothing to worry about because he will surely be 50.5 when he tapers for the big meet.

    But this is 2014. Who knows if MP will be able to do what he did in the years past……..and shave off loads of time just at the right moment at the end of the summer.

    He is in a bit of trouble here in the 2 IM. But let’s not count him out yet. Not yet.

  6. 112 says:
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    Phelps is pass his prime. He peaked in 07/08. He will never get back to those times. Phelps, his fans & this site need to realize he is old. He won’t make it to the olympics. He should not even show up to Nationals.He should scratch this whole “comeback” aka “I wanna 4peat” aka “I’m having fun” aka “I still think I can win gold when I can’t”. No one cares about Phelps anymore guys. Move on. Stick a fork in him, he is done.
    Ps. The only swimmers that matter are from France. France>>>USA

    • law dawg says:
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      Obvious troll is obvious

    • Gold Medal Mel Stewart says:
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      112 troll —

      Prediction: Phelps breaks the 200 IM WR, or goes faster than his PB between now and RIO. You never know, someone else could takeoff the 200 IM between now and RIO.

      • 112 says:
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        No troll here just a reality check. Most don’t want to believe it but this meet confirms it. Phelps is past his prime. I guarantee he won’t make the Olympic team. This meet was a disappointment for him. You could see it & tell on his face. He’s just too old and can’t do it anymore. He just can’t do it. Goodluck trying to 4peat.

    • Billabong says:
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      Expressing a negative view on Phelp’s Rio prospects is not against the law. Being realistic about what he can achieve is healthy. I still think that he is good enough for a few relay slots, which should generate 2-3 golds. Just imagine if he rounds off his “Greatest Olympian Ever” career with two relay golds swimming in the heats! Winning soft golds would hurt swimming and not help it.

    • easyspeed says:
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      Every time someone on here gives an opinion contrary to the majority it is labeled a “troll”; the discussion is pretty boring without opinions like “112.” Having said that, 112’s analysis is off. For Phelps age isn’t the main factor in his comeback. Other swimmers have done well in their 30s (Jager, Torres, Hansen, etc). The issue is the time out of the pool and the lower training frequency (as of right now). Phelps will probably step it up in the fall. Training with less volume will make it more difficult to do events 200 and up.. but it could help him in the 100s. In fact, one must keep in mind that in past Olympics Phelps might have done much better in certain events had he not been burdened by such a huge program. For example, his 100 fly could have been better if he wasn’t so worn out from the 400 IM. So don’t count him out. I think he is a medal threat in any event he attempts. … one more thing: Phelps tends to swim the 100s like the distance swimmer that he is, with a strong back half. So I hope he does get back to some of the type of training he has done previously.

  7. theroboticrichardsimmons says:
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    Huh? At this very same meet in 2003, phelps the world record in the 200 IM with a 1:58.0.

  8. theroboticrichardsimmons says:
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    Universal seriously truncated the video to remove half the race (yet still included the entire pre-race walk up as well as the post race float)? Terrible.

  9. anon2 says:
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    serious NBC???????

    It’s a 200IM…where there are FOUR different strokes that only last a SINGLE length of the pool…and you just decide to cut out half the race…cutting out during the backstroke and coming back in the middle of the freestyle??? It’s not even a long race!!!

    Good thing I actually watched it on livestream and saw the FULL race…including the critical breaststroke leg…

    SMH…

  10. X-Man says:
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    I hope the he puts the 200IM to the side for the big meets. I’ve seen him do the marathon of events for 14 years and break many records, its on youtube we can watch the progression anytime.

    What we haven’t seen is a legit 49 sec Fly. And the only swimmer capable of repeating the floaty suit race from 2009, is Michael Phelps.

  11. Tim says:
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    Seriously? Why would you cut out half the race? I wanted to see Kalisz on the back half, since his backstroke is so comparatively cruddy compared to everyone else’s, yet he manages to destroy everyone on the breast and free.

  12. Lisa says:
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    What’s with all the negative comments? He should drop this race? He should give up this comeback? It’s his third meet back and he’s still getting decent times!! How many other swimmers could do the same?! How’s he suppose to figure out which races are a good fit for him now if he doesn’t race them at GP meets. Not to mention its good training. Give it a rest people, Bob Bowman and MP will decide what’s best for him….

    • 112 says:
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      Because it’s a reality check. This is not 2007 or 2008 anymore. He is past his prime. That is a fact. Come on Phelps Phans. There are better swimmers that have become bigger names. Goodluck with trying to make the Olympic team. He is too old.

      • Tim says:
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        Sure, he’s past his prime…which is why he isn’t going after the 400 IM or 200 fly anymore. Give him two years of training and I think he’ll at least be in the running for making Rio, but no guarantees. I think Kalisz is going to be the one to beat in the 200 IM by 2016, but I don’t think you can count Phelps out right now. If he’s still swimming these times next summer…then you might be right, but for him to swim these times at this stage in his comeback is nothing to sneer at.

        • 112 says:
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          He needs to just focus on relays. If he even makes that lol. I know he wants to 4peat but there is no way in hell that’s happening. He will end up like Ian Thorpe. No I take that back. Not Ian Thorpe but won’t be able to do individual events. Just hang up the 100fly & 200IM buddy. Not happening.

          • Swimfan23 says:
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            So three meets in and still not in great shape he is already #2 in the US in the 100 fly for the year and #10 in the world and has no shot to make the olympic team?!?!? I dont get your logic there

            http://swimswam.com/ranking/2014-lcm-men-100-fly-world-ranking/

          • 112 says:
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            we all know that that’s not good enough for Phelps. Times now are different. like some earlier poster said, if this was 2007 it would be ok. it’s 2014 and Phelps is not 22 years old anymore. He should just quit now before he gets embarassed by le clos and others.

  13. 112 says:
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    #NORIOFORPHELPS2016

    • KeithM says:
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      Well aren’t you the comedian. Phelps can get to Rio. No question. But is just getting there really enough to motivate him?

      • 112 says:
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        Phelps has ambition. We all know he wants to 4peat. Why even comeback then? I’m just saying he won’t 4peat or make the olympics at all.

    • woods says:
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      his 100 free time from this weekend would have made the Olympic team in 2012…it also would have made it in 2008 when there were suits…so there is that…

      • Rafael says:
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        Would give him a relay.. for individual he will need a 47 high 48 low probably.. and be able to go 47 mid low to be a contender probably (considering dressel santana mcevoy continue to evolve) and Adrian and Mag times..

      • coach says:
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        And it also would have made him a lot of money.

  14. 112 says:
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    Disappointing meet for Phelps and you all know it.

    • ERVINFORTHEWIN says:
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      Nasty Troll u are ; if u go on with that Horrible frenchie attitude , i will have to slack u down . Toi comprendre ton problème !

    • coach says:
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      It seems like most of the adult (post grad) NBAC swimmers struggled coming down from altitude. Usually they are pretty quick coming down from altitude, which makes me think that they trained a little harder than normal.

  15. david says:
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    King Chad said that he most probably won’t be at the pan pacs
    So the next time the two meet will be ….maybe never

    • Billabong says:
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      King Chad is younger, faster and hungrier (not better or more successful). Phelps has had to drop his best event from his program, because even he knows that Chad is the main man from here on out. The King is dead, long live the King.

      • TheTroubleWithX says:
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        Phelps is (almost) certainly done with the 200 fly, but I’m not ready to annoint King Chad just yet.

  16. 112 says:
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    It’s 2014 people. Not 2008 anymore.

  17. 112 says:
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    Remember when people thought Phelps would win the 200fly? Yeah ok.

    • Justin Thompson says:
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      He was touched out on a long glide and had been leading up until that point. You make it sound as if he was 2-3 seconds behind and out of the race completely. So yes I do remember that in the 2012 Olympics he was touched out by .07 seconds to claim Silver, but I doubt anyone will remember June 23rd 2014 when a scrub touting it as a failure all the while hiding behind a number to cowardly to even use his real name.

      • Danjohnrob says:
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        I believe it was only 0.05, so he was losing by at least half the pool!

        • 112 says:
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          He still lost. He was the favorite. That finish he had was horrible. Maybe Karma for what he did to Cavic in 08? His turn wasn’t that good & he started to fatigue towards the end. Theres a reason he dropped that event. After being heart broken by Le Clos, he realized he’s too old. If he wants to win he needs to step it up otherwise…well you know.

          • ERVINFORTHEWIN says:
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            nasty troll u are , we don’t like Trolls here , especially ones with a negative attitiude problem ! Do u know Stéphane Carron ? u better be good at answering this question …..

          • Hippo-ki says:
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            Whatever you said here, didn’t change the fact that Phelps IS the greatest butterfier in history. Period.
            Enough is enough…. and your king has summoned you for a “braaivleis.”

          • Hippo-ki says:
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            *butterflier

      • Billabong says:
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        Yes Hippo-Ki, we agree! “Phelps is the greatest butterflier in HISTORY”. You seem to have subconsciously come over to the dark side. Lest’s have a braaivleis and make up!

  18. Dzarf says:
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    I wouldn’t dream of sticking forks into Brendan Hansen, Jason Lezak, or Dara Torres. They offered wonderful performances past age 30. Too much of an opinion is too much, however.

  19. Danjohnrob says:
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    I’m posting here in the hope that it will be seen and I can get some feedback from swimming fans/experts. I am in no way suggesting that I am an authority on swimming, but as a fan, these were my observations:

    For the most part, the US swimming stars performed well/as well as could be expected at Santa Clara! There were some whose performances made me worry if they’re on track though:

    Rachel Bootsma Matt Grevers (especially freestyle)
    Maya Dorado. Tom Luchsinger (I hope just a reaction to altitude)
    Karlee Bispo. Ryan Murphy (who I hope was I’ll or jet-lagged)
    Margo Here. Tyler Clary
    Lisa Neal
    Megan Romano
    Most of these swimmers are sprinters, so I hope everything will straighten out when they taper!

    Some performed BETTER than expected, it seemed to me:
    Simone Manuel – showed versatility I didn’t know she had
    Cierra Runge – definitely responds well to altitude; it was a “coming out” party for her
    Elizabeth Beisel – will go into Nationals with lots of confidence
    Cheyenne Coffman – proving she’s for real and consistently competitive
    Eugene Godsoe -proving his 50 fly medal was no fluke
    Tom Shields – I hope this meet was a turning point for him
    Connor Jaeger – such dominance
    Katie Ledecky too of course! Not even at the meet and her times are announced!
    And Michael Phelps, who I hope was encouraged rather than discouraged because we could sure use his help at the big meets in the near future while we wait for some of our young guns to mature!
    Among people I wasn’t familiar with, I was impressed by:
    Corey Okubo – many finals
    Amy Bilquist – maybe a future star
    Claire Adams – competing with Amy in practice is helping them both
    Emma Schanz
    Connor Green – Go Bluefish!
    Clay Youngquist and Mitch D’Arrigo – maybe contenders for 800 free relay

    I’m still waiting for the big, senior, internationally significant time meet for:
    Gunnar Bentz
    Kathleen Baker
    Kylie Stewart
    Maybe Irvine will be that BIG MEET!
    Chloe Sutton

    • riley says:
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      D’Arrigo is Italian so he won’t be a relay contender for the US

    • Champ says:
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      DiRado was sick this weekend but still swam anyways

      • coach says:
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        Lots of people sick this week, which seems odd since it isn’t flu season. Not making a judgement on DiRado at all. I just don’t remember this many people being sick at a meet in June.

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      Chloe Sutton was ill and pulled out of the meet.
      Megan Romano was coming off altitude training with the NBAC team

      • Danjohnrob says:
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        You’re right about Sutton, sorry! Megan Romano definitely doesn’t swim for NBAC though.

        • coach says:
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          I’m not sure if Megan has a home base right now. I know she spent time in Austin, Charlotte, and with NBAC at altitude. As we have seen with her relay swims, Megan is a true team player and thrived in the Athens college atmosphere. I can understand taking the time to find the right training environment for 2016. Best of luck, Megan.

  20. Danjohnrob says:
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    By the way Chloe Sutton was meant to be under the list of underachievers at the meet.

    • coach says:
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      I think it’s hard to make this call. Between getting over an injury and being sick, it has just been a bumpy road for Chloe.

      • Danjohnrob says:
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        Of course nothing is impossible, and I wish Chloe well, but with Katie Ledecky around there really is only Olympic spot left in each of Chloe’s events and a lot of competition for them! Still, Chloe should do what makes her happy; if she still enjoys swimming and has goals to achieve, she should continue!

  21. 112 says:
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    Hopefully Phelps comes on this website & looks at the comments I made & face reality.

    • law dawg says:
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      I think you should post your modest opinions a few more times, just to be sure..

    • ERVINFORTHEWIN says:
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      u better change your very nasty attitude ! U must be a jaleous French fan who can’t bare that Usa has amazing swimmers ; maybe u got paralized when M Phelps got 8 golds in 2008 .
      Go troll somewhere else …. that’s my strong advice to you

      • Billabong says:
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        You are absolutely right, The USA has got some amazing swimmers who deserve your support (Clarey Kalisz, Dwyer, Ledeky Franklin etc). The USA has also had some of the best swimmers ever (Phelps, Spitz, Biondi, Mary T, Evans etc). Phelps’ name looks pretty good in the second bucket don’t you think?

    • coach says:
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      I’m guessing he probably has more important things to do.

  22. Justin Thompson says:
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    I thought MP had a good weekend all things considered. He had only been swimming 5 times a week prior to the Colorado camp and dramatically increased his volume there, but still isn’t up to volume of his teammates. I would be in the mindset that perhaps he is washed up if he had been swimming for a solid 12 months and putting in 10 practices a week but unable to finish strong. I think him not being able to finish strong was a result of the training camp which has to be tougher on him than it was in the past when he was putting in the higher volume and could acclimate to the workload better. If that 200 IM was the first day I think he could have been 1-2 seconds faster.

    As for not making the team in 2016, that’s hard to imagine sitting here in 2014 and looking how weak the 100/200 FR events are in the US. He swam a 48.8 this early into his training and looking at the ranking no other American besides Phelps/Adrian has broken 49 this year. You are telling me that there will be 6 people faster than him in the 100/200 FR come 2016?

    I do think he’ll have more competition than ever in the 200 IM and 100 Fly, but swimming a 1:54/1:55 in the 200 IM will be a stretch for Chase and maybe Dwyer. Isn’t Dwyer’s best a 1:57.74 and Kalisz a 1:58.52? That’s pretty select company and so far this year we only have one guy at a 1:55.

  23. 112 says:
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    I predict Silver & bronze medals for Phelps in ’16. No 4peats.

    • Hippo-ki says:
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      Phelps WILL four-peat in 2016 at the Rio Olympics.
      I bet my house on it!
      Don’t ever quit trying, Mr. Phelps (I know you won’t) ;-)

    • Lazy Observer says:
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      OK, 212: I was mostly ignoring you until I reached this comment and had to laugh. You are upgrading him to a silver and a bronze after announcing that he can’t even make it? I kind of feel like if you’re going to be vituperative, you should really commit to it. I thought you didn’t like half-measures.

  24. 112 says:
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    Phelps time in the 100fly barely improved. He needs to go back to training every day. Can’t be having anymore slacking days. You have 2 years man. But 2016 will be here before you know it. Better step it up.

  25. 112 says:
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    Jeez you guys on here are a little harsh eh? Someone gives an opinion like the rest of you here and I get attacked because I don’t believe in you guys lord and savior Michael “jesus” Phelps.

  26. We Love Phelps says:
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    guys:
    don’t feed the trolls
    don’t feed the trolls
    don’t feed the trolls
    :-D

  27. Danjohnrob says:
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    Of course nothing is impossible, and I wish Chloe well, but with Katie Ledecky around there really is only Olympic spot left in each of Chloe’s events and a lot of competition for them! Still, Chloe should do what makes her happy; if she still enjoys swimming and has goals to achieve, she should continue!

  28. Danjohnrob says:
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    I just watched the race video above again (by the way, somebody fixed it so the entire race is shown now), and my opinion has changed. Initially I assumed Phelps’ lack of a training base affected his endurance and lost the race on the final 50, which is true to some extent; but, he was ahead by a half body length at the start of breaststroke and Dwyer (who has never been known for his breaststroke) caught up to him, so I think Phelps just hasn’t trained enough breaststroke! Sure, Kalisz would have caught up anyway, but if his breaststroke had been just a little faster he might have had enough of a lead to touch them out at the finish!

  29. David says:
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    Phelps’s breastroke has been unpredictable his entire career.
    It was always his weakest stroke, then something happened leading up to the 2011 Worlds as his stroke became super good, even on par with Lochte.
    Just hope he reclaim whatever it was that made the difference.
    Because as we know the breast leg is the key, especially if he wants to reclaim thha WR

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