Scott Surges To Wall .05 Ahead of Dean To Take 200 Free At British Invite

2021 BRITISH SWIMMING INVITATION MEET

The 2021 British Swimming Invitation Meet ended on a high note, as some of the nation’s most talented freestylers duked it out in the 200m distance.

Taking the elite meet title in the event was World Championships relay gold medalist Duncan Scott, with the University of Stirling star cranking out a winning effort of 1:46.70.

Opening in 51.63 and closing in 55.07, Scott got the edge over runner-up Tom Dean, the new Bath team member who snagged the 200m free silver tonight only .05 behind in 1:46.75.

It was James Guy who had the quickest front speed of the pack, posting a first 100m mark of 51.58 before backing off a bit to collect bronze in 1:47.47.

This trio of Scott, Guy and Dean represent 3 of the 4 fastest British men of all-time in the 200m free, with retired swimmer Robbie Renwick as the final foursome. Scott owns the national record in 1:44.91 from the 2019 FINA World Championships, while Guy’s mark of 1:45.14 renders him as the 2nd-best Brit en route to his winning the 2015 World Championships title. Finally, Dean owns a PB of 1:46.03 from last year’s Edinburgh International Swim Meet.

All told, the top 6 swimmers were all under the 1:50 threshold in the 200m free this evening, with Scott and Dean ranking #9 and #10 in the world this season.

2020-2021 LCM Men 200 Free

DuncanGBR
Scott
04/18
1:44.47
2Tom
Dean
GBR1:44.5804/18
3Hwang
Sunwoo
KOR1:44.6207/25
4Katsuo
Matsumoto
JPN1:44.6504/05
5Martin
Malyutin
RUS1:44.7905/21
6Fernando
Scheffer
BRA1:45.0507/25
7Kieran
Smith
USA1:45.0707/25
8Alexander
Graham
AUS1:45.2206/13
9David
Popovici
ROU1:45.2607/08
10Danas
Rapsys
LTU1:45.3207/25
11Kyle
Chalmers
AUS1:45.4806/13
12Ivan
Girev
RUS1:45.4904/05
13Elijah
Winnington
AUS1:45.5506/13
14Townley
Haas
USA1:45.6606/15
15Thomas
Neill
AUS1:45.7006/13
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The women’s 100m free saw Anna Hopkin get to the wall first in a time of 54.44, sneaking to the time pad just .07 ahead of two-time European Short Course Championships gold medalist Freya Anderson. Anderson settled for silver in 54.51, while Lucy Hope represented the only other sub-55 second swimmer in a time of 54.94.

Max Litchfield grabbed the men’s 400m IM gold in a mark of 4:16.74 while Harriet Jones proved the speediest in the women’s 100m fly in 59.33.

Additional winners included James Wilby nabbing the 200m breast victory in 2:11.24 (Adam Peaty scratched), as Luke Greenbank, the newly-minted British national record holder in the 200m back, collected 100m back gold tonight in 54.56.

Earlier we reported on Kathleen Dawson‘s eye-catching swim in the 200m back where the Stirling star posted a career-best and Scottish national record of 2:09.44. You can read the post here.

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PeatyPiper
4 months ago

Was disappointed not to see a bit of a quicker men’s 100m backstroke field, especially after this morning, but still a lot of time to work with.

Really good men’s 200m free field. Also in addition to the 6 men sub 1:50 in the final, Cam kurle went sub 1:50 in B final as well.

Dawson having an excellent meet and also massive shout out to Challis for breaking her own British record twice in a day in the 100 free.

Lopez
Reply to  PeatyPiper
4 months ago

If Greenbank wants to go 52 as a few people mentioned a couple of days ago he needs the speed to open sub 26. If you look at his 100’s in the ISL(relays) he would never go out under 24.6 which is slow compared to the big, more powerful, guns.

ibelieve
Reply to  Lopez
4 months ago

Agreed. His back half looked great in the final, but even with a 27-mid back half you just can’t get down to that 53.0/52.high range if you can’t go out well under 26.

Skoorbnagol
Reply to  Lopez
4 months ago

Not happening.
Greenbank was always a 200IM / 400Im 200fly and bk swimmer growing up.
He’s not big enough or powerful to go 52, he’s much smaller than Tyler Clary and he was 1.7sec faster on 200bk and could get nowhere near 52.
Luke is fast underwater and his technique is world class, he’s just not built for 100m events. If he goes 53.5 that’s a great swim.

PeatyPiper
Reply to  Skoorbnagol
4 months ago

I’m not saying Greenbank will get diwn to 52 this cycle, but I think we have to be cautious when writing people off due to size.

While you can’t necessarily always draw parallels between men and women, if you compare Gemma Spofforth to Reagan Smith, there’s clearly a size difference there and yet Smith has overcome what spofforth did in a supersuit while being a much leaner build.

Perhaps a more apt example is Duncan Scott. While he has bulked out a bit in the last few years, he is nowhere near the power and bulk of the likes of someone like Alain Bernard. It would have been safe to look at Scott a few years ago and say yeah… Read more »

Reply to  Skoorbnagol
4 months ago

I think Mr. Irie may have something to say about having to be big to swim a 100 back at world class level…

AnEn
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
4 months ago

I looked at some of the previous 100 back world record holders and Wildeboer (6 feet 0 in, 183 cm), Carey (6 feet 0 in, 183 cm) and Berkoff (5 feet 9 in, 175 cm) were all 6 feet or smaller (according to Wikipedia). Greenbank is (6 feet 0 in, 184 cm) is taller than all of them.

AnEn
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
4 months ago

List of swimmers (at least those i could find) who are of “comparable” height to Greenbank (according to Wikipedia) and went sub 53:

Rylov (6 feet 1, 185 cm) 52.44
Thoman (6 feet 1, 185 cm) 52.86
Walker-Hebborn (6 feet 0, 184 cm) 52.88
Tancock (6 feet 0, 183 cm) 52.73
Koga (5 feet 11, 181 cm) 52.26
Irie (5 feet 10, 178 cm) 52.24
Meeuw (5 feet 10, 177 cm) 52.27
Hagino (5 feet 10, 177 cm) 52.78

Irie, Rylov, Hagino, Thoman and Walker-Hebborn did it without supersuit.

Skoorbnagol
Reply to  AnEn
4 months ago

Greenbank isn’t very heavy, he has a slender build. He doesn’t have a large physical presence.
Hagino is another level talented.
The others are bigger in size, more sprint based physiology or trained more speed.

Dudeman
Reply to  Skoorbnagol
4 months ago

Idk if you’ve seen irie, rylov, hagino, koga etc… but they are not what I would define as “large physical presences” either. Rylov is arguably the best backstroker in the world right now and is tiny compared to the other people he races against yet still went 51.9 in the 100 and is the most dominant 200 backstroker of this olympic cylce

Skoorbnagol
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
4 months ago

The Japanese and eastern world do magical things based of size.
How does Seto beat Lochte, Chad, shields, Phelps, Conger etc in SCM going 3.54/1.48 in 400IM and 200fly. Based of what they do in yards/scm with there size and power. That doesn’t make sense.
Greenbank is a western man, I look at Lochte going 1:52.9 & 53.3, Goddard 1:55.5 & 54.9, Already mentioned Clary as comparisons.
Luke was 2:02.44 in 2014 on 200fly fastest 16 ever at the time in GB, I think there’s more chance he can go 1.55 on 200fly than 52 on back. Irie is a freak, once in a lifetime backstroke, like Thorpe on free. Luke doesn’t have huge natural speed, he’s… Read more »

AnEn
Reply to  Skoorbnagol
4 months ago

Nice to see someone who is able to judge him realistically.

Dee
Reply to  Skoorbnagol
4 months ago

Strongly agree.

Dee
Reply to  PeatyPiper
4 months ago

I think sub 53 is a very big ask of Greenbank. He’s very much a 200 man. I hope I’m wrong, but I think 53mid is the best we can really expect.

AnEn
4 months ago

Funny to see Greenbank’s time …
On Friday i questioned whether his 200 back improvement really means that he 100 % also got (much) faster in the 100 back and i was pretty much called a troll for that …
I hope that (not only) british fans will learn from this and not constantly make absurd predictions for some of their swimmers. It definitely wouldn’t have been a shock to see Greenbank improving his 100 back PB here, but it was ridiculous that so many acted as if it was a done deal. You don’t do yourself or the athletes a favor by creating expectations that are so high that it becomes almost impossible to reach them. It… Read more »

SAMUEL HUNTINGTON
Reply to  AnEn
4 months ago

That was not the big issue most of us had with you the other day. It was more 1) your insistence Luke is not a medal contender in the 200 2) saying GB has no chance at the gold in the medley and 3) your overall troll-like tone/attitude.

Luke could possibly go 52.xx in the future, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with making a hopeful prediction like that. Setting ambitious goals is always a good idea.

AnEn
Reply to  SAMUEL HUNTINGTON
4 months ago

Lol … sure …

2) I never (as far as i remember) said that GB has no chance at gold in the medley relay, i just said that they aren’t the favorite (the US is). They could win the gold, but if you look at the facts, then they aren’t the favorite.
3) Sorry for saying things that you don’t want to hear. If i would ever be in a state where i can’t judge swimmers from my country objectively anymore, i would be happy about someone trying to give me a more realistic perspective. Sadly more often than not i am actually the only one who tries to reason based on facts.

Jack
Reply to  AnEn
4 months ago

Your actually just full of it and claim your some swim knowledge god.

Firstly, you avoided my comment when Greenbank PBed in the final and subsiquent facts that a 1:55 has gone 4th or better at every Olympics every dispite claiming it definitely wouldn’t win an Olympic medal and has also medalled at the last 2 world champs. You also avoided it in your response to this comment because you know your in the wrong.

Secondly you said of GB in the medley relay “No matter what he does, GB will be favorite for silver, not more and not less.”
“What does that swim have to do with the british medley relay? Did they change it into a 4… Read more »

AnEn
Reply to  Jack
4 months ago

Sorry, but you are clearly not in a state to think logically. I will still try my best to explain some flaws in your thinking, hopefully you will be able to understand them once your full mental capacities have returned.

Firstly:
I didn’t “avoid” anything, i just didn’t read it. Here is my response to your point:
a) I never said that 1:55 wouldn’t win an olympic medal, i just said that i am convinced that it won’t win a medal at the next olympics.
b) I am not in the wrong (and also not in the right, because at this point it is a prediction and a prediction isn’t wrong/right beforehand, it can just be more… Read more »

Jack
Reply to  AnEn
4 months ago

“It will take sub 1:54 to medal in Tokyo.”
“Would be extremely surprised if you wouldn’t have to go sub 1:54 to medal at the olympics and Greenbank has never gotten close to that time.” – About him NOT being a medal contender
“Do you seriously think that it will be possible to win a medal at the olympics with 1:55?”

Stop lecturing people about facts when you are a massive hypocrite. Aint got the time for you. Biggest drama creater ive ever seen in this comment and your coming for estimated people who have contributed massively to these comments like Dee and Swammer i cba.

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AnEn
Reply to  AnEn
4 months ago

Did a part of your comment get lost? What exactly are you trying to say (by just repeating what i said)?

Khachaturian
4 months ago

54.56…

AnEn
Reply to  Khachaturian
4 months ago

I thought that he would go sub 53 and make their medley relay the clear favorites …

Sapnu puas
4 months ago

Anyone know why Anderson was relatively flat here and last month too? Or just one of those things?

Greenbank needs to up his speed on the first 50 pleaseeeee

Dee
Reply to  Sapnu puas
4 months ago

The Bath swimmers were looked hit & miss across the board.

Ghost
4 months ago

The podium is a lot faster than top 3 at San Antonio……by a lot!

SAMUEL HUNTINGTON
Reply to  Ghost
4 months ago

Not surprising. Scott/Guy/Dean is probably a better trio than what the Americans have right now – Haas/Seliskar/Pieroni?

Last edited 4 months ago by SAMUEL HUNTINGTON
Caleb
Reply to  SAMUEL HUNTINGTON
4 months ago

more proven but the US pool is a lot deeper.. e.g. no big shock if Kieran Smith goes 1:44 in a few months. I will be surprised if the US isn’t back on top this summer (in the 4×200)

SAMUEL HUNTINGTON
Reply to  Caleb
4 months ago

Yes, the US would absolutely win a 8×200 relay.

Smith could go 1:44, but we have learned that 1:44s are pretty rare these days. Really only Sun and Rapys going that consistently from a flat start.

Troyy
Reply to  SAMUEL HUNTINGTON
4 months ago

I wouldn’t say Rasys goes 1:44 consistently.

Samesame
Reply to  SAMUEL HUNTINGTON
4 months ago

Actually Australia would do well in a 8×200 relay. Chalmers, Horton, Lewis, Winnington, Graham, Neill, Fraser-Holmes and one other.

AnEn
Reply to  Caleb
4 months ago

No shock? Maybe not to you, but certainly to people who judge swimmers based on their actual performances. Also who cares about the depth, when only the top 4 guys swim in a final?
1) So far Smith has given no indication that he can swim that time
2) If you wouldn’t be surprised about him going 1:44, you probably also wouldnt be surprised about someone like Hwang (who is younger and already faster) going 1:43?

Samuel Huntington
Reply to  AnEn
4 months ago

AnEn – happy to agree with you on this one! Smith has not shown the ability to go 1:44 yet. But he also hasn’t swim that event in LCM in awhile so I can see why people have it as a possibility…

AnEn
Reply to  Samuel Huntington
4 months ago

It definitely is possible that he swims 1:44 (maybe even already this year) and wins a medal at the olympics (maybe even gold), but if you just look at the facts, there is no reason to think that he is the one swimmer who will go sub 1:45 next or that he has to be considered one of the favorites for a medal.

Reply to  SAMUEL HUNTINGTON
4 months ago

Anyone else read this headline and get excited then remember Mr. Farris isn’t British

iLikePsych
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
4 months ago

Close, but he’s swimming for Ireland, remember?

Right Dude Here
Reply to  iLikePsych
4 months ago

I thought he swam for Harvard.

durhamtier
4 months ago

4x200m – Scott, Dean, Guy for sure, with Richards, Litchfield and Jervis fighting it out? Maybe Kurle too but can’t see anyone else in the mix.

PeatyPiper
Reply to  durhamtier
4 months ago

Do you mean Jarvis? Jervis will probably have hands full with 400-1500. Also both Litchfields are potential swimmers – Joe didn’t swim final but went 1:49 this morning.

durhamtier
Reply to  PeatyPiper
4 months ago

haha yes I did – easy mistake!

Dee
Reply to  durhamtier
4 months ago

Jarvis & Kurle looked a lot better than they usually do at this time of year. Kurle is obviously in a new set-up, so you could put it down to that, but Jarvis was very encouraging. That was his first swim sub 1.50 in the first quarter of the year since 2015.

HJones
4 months ago

I wouldn’t bet on it, but there is a decent chance the US doesn’t medal in the 4×200. GB, Australia, Italy, and Russia all probably have as good of a shot to be on the podium as the US. China could be a dark horse depending on Sun’s eligibility and if they can find one more decent 200 freestyler–in 2019 they were heavily weighed down by having to use Xu who can’t do much than a 1:48-1:49, yet they still finished 6th with Sun dropping a below average split by his standards.

justin frank
4 months ago

Why can’t Peaty just swim the 200 for once? It’s not like it’ll destroy his training and I think everyone wants to see what he could do.

HJones
Reply to  justin frank
4 months ago

If he really focused his training more towards the 200, he’d probably easily go 2:07 low (he went 2:08 a few years ago). But, at his current build, I think he is far too be able to psychologically sustain his power output for a 200. As the BR times are getting faster, there appears to be increasing specialization between the two distances. Plus, building breaststroke endurance is a different animal from other strokes; it’s much easier to start by having a good 200 LCM and building down to the 100 LCM rather than the other way around (see Chupkov).

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