Wisconsin finished Day 2 seven points ahead of their seedings with 53 points, only 1 point behind 10th-place NC State. Current photo via Jack Spitser/Spitser Photography
Virginia came into Day 2 tied with Stanford, each team having won one relay and finished second in another on Wednesday night. The Cavaliers outscored the Cardinal by 47 points on Thursday, adding 151 to their tally to finish alone in first place with 179 points.
Indiana and Stanford made the biggest gains on Thursday, improving 24 and 23 points, respectively, from their seedings. The Hoosiers did better than predicted in the 500 free and 200 free relay; Stanford beat expectations in the 500 free and 200 IM. UVA picked up points in the 500 free and 50 free.
Florida (-29), Texas (-25), Alabama (-15), and Tennessee (-12) were off by double digits, which had an impact on the team standings. The Longhorns were slated to finish Day 2 in second place behind Virginia, but Stanford’s overperformance and their misses (Texas was off by -15 in the 200 IM and by -10 in the relay) and the two teams swapped positions. That said, Texas scored 31 points in diving to Stanford’s zero; while the Stanford women are having the better meet in the swimming events and closing the gap on the Longhorns, if Texas’ diving continues that should give them enough to hang on for 2nd place – though it’s far from a lock at this point. Florida dropped -19 in the 500 free and -10 in the 200 IM, which moved them from a predicted 6th at then end of Day 2 to a 9th-place finish.
Seed vs Performance – Day 2 Only – Swimming Events
(Note: the diving event was not seeded in advance so we cannot compare performance vs seed.)
Team
Difference vs Seed
Indiana
24
Stanford
23
Virginia
18
Ohio State
9
Arizona State
7.5
Wisconsin
7
NC State
5
Cal
2.5
Arizona
2
Pittsburgh
0
Kansas
0
LSU
0
South Carolina
0
USC
0
Duke
-1
Louisville
-1.5
Miami (FL)
-1.5
Auburn
-2
North Carolina
-3
Michigan
-4
Georgia
-4
Tennessee
-12
Alabama
-15
Texas
-25
Florida
-29
500 Free Over/Under
Team
Psych
Prelims
Finals
Difference vs Seed
Virginia
21
29
29
8
Stanford
16
20
19
3
Texas
20
16
20
0
Indiana
14
32
28
14
Louisville
0
0
0
0
Tennessee
12
7
9
-3
Michigan
16
0
0
-16
Cal
0
1
3
3
Miami (FL)
0
0
0
0
North Carolina
0
0
0
0
NC State
0
0
0
0
Georgia
20
19
16
-4
Alabama
0
0
0
0
Wisconsin
0
0
0
0
Arizona
0
0
0
0
Ohio State
0
11
13
13
Pittsburgh
0
0
0
0
Kansas
0
0
0
0
Florida
31
13
11
-20
LSU
0
0
0
0
Arizona State
0
0
0
0
South Carolina
0
0
0
0
Duke
0
0
0
0
USC
5
7
7
2
Auburn
0
0
0
0
200 IM Over/Under
Team
Psych
Prelims
Finals
Difference vs Seed
Virginia
26
22
26
0
Stanford
35
55
53
18
Texas
39
31
24
-15
Indiana
0
0
0
0
Louisville
0
0
0
0
Tennessee
19
14
17
-2
Michigan
2
1
3
1
Cal
12
17
16
4
Miami (FL)
0
0
0
0
North Carolina
0
2
1
1
NC State
0
0
0
0
Georgia
0
0
0
0
Alabama
0
0
0
0
Wisconsin
13
13
15
2
Arizona
0
0
0
0
Ohio State
0
0
0
0
Pittsburgh
0
0
0
0
Kansas
0
0
0
0
Florida
9
0
0
-9
LSU
0
0
0
0
Arizona State
0
0
0
0
South Carolina
0
0
0
0
Duke
0
0
0
0
USC
0
0
0
0
Auburn
0
0
0
0
50 Free Over/Under
Team
Psych
Prelims
Finals
Difference vs Seed
Virginia
40
46
50
10
Stanford
0
0
0
0
Texas
0
0
0
0
Indiana
11
5
7
-4
Louisville
32
32
30.5
-1.5
Tennessee
16
16
15
-1
Michigan
4
13
13
9
Cal
13
6
2.5
-10.5
Miami (FL)
7
7
5.5
-1.5
North Carolina
0
0
0
0
NC State
0
2
1
1
Georgia
0
0
0
0
Alabama
12
13
11
-1
Wisconsin
3
0
0
-3
Arizona
0
0
0
0
Ohio State
0
0
0
0
Pittsburgh
14
14
14
0
Kansas
0
0
0
0
Florida
0
0
0
0
LSU
0
0
0
0
Arizona State
2
1
5.5
3.5
South Carolina
0
0
0
0
Duke
1
0
0
-1
USC
0
0
0
0
Auburn
0
0
0
0
200 Free Relay Over/Under
Team
Psych
Finals
Difference vs Seed
Virginia
40
40
0
Stanford
30
32
2
Texas
32
22
-10
Indiana
14
28
14
Louisville
34
34
0
Tennessee
24
18
-6
Michigan
28
30
2
Cal
18
24
6
Miami (FL)
0
0
0
North Carolina
4
0
-4
NC State
22
26
4
Georgia
10
10
0
Alabama
26
12
-14
Wisconsin
0
8
8
Arizona
12
14
2
Ohio State
6
2
-4
Pittsburgh
0
0
0
Kansas
0
0
0
Florida
0
0
0
LSU
0
0
0
Arizona State
0
4
4
South Carolina
0
0
0
Duke
0
0
0
USC
2
0
-2
Auburn
8
6
-2
Day 2 Seed vs Score – Swimming Only (including relay)
Team
Seeded
Actual
Difference vs Seed
Virginia
127
145
18
Stanford
81
104
23
Texas
91
66
-25
Indiana
39
63
24
Louisville
66
64.5
-1.5
Tennessee
71
59
-12
Michigan
50
46
-4
Cal
43
45.5
2.5
Miami (FL)
7
5.5
-1.5
North Carolina
4
1
-3
NC State
22
27
5
Georgia
30
26
-4
Alabama
38
23
-15
Wisconsin
16
23
7
Arizona
12
14
2
Ohio State
6
15
9
Pittsburgh
14
14
0
Kansas
0
0
0
Florida
40
11
-29
LSU
0
0
0
Arizona State
2
9.5
7.5
South Carolina
0
0
0
Duke
1
0
-1
USC
7
7
0
Auburn
8
6
-2
Team Standings After Day 2
Virginia 225
Stanford 178
Texas 152
Louisville 106.5
Indiana 102
Tennessee 93
Michigan 92
California 89.5
Florida 71
NC State 54
Wisconsin 53
Miami (Fl) 42.5
Georgia 38
Southern California 35
UNC 34
Alabama 33
Arizona State 31.5
Ohio State 23
(TIE) LSU / Arizona 15
–
Pittsburgh 14
Kansas 12
South Carolina 9
Duke 7
(TIE) Texas A&M / Auburn / Virginia Tech 6
–
Purdue 5
Minnesota 2
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Kono
2 hours ago
I thought the prophecy was for one team to sweep the relays, break all the records and win nearly everything else. Ooops.
How would other teams motivate themselves if Virginia weren’t so good? Would be tough, it seems.
Andrew
2 hours ago
Texas, Tennessee, Florida off. The usual suspects. Florida and Texas having a predictably disastrous meet
IU, Louisville, Stanford, early winners for now.
I’ve sang my praises for Arthur and wanted him to take the Texas position. Louisville is kind of in an NC state situation where the caliber of school / location / town / dated pool holds the success of a team back. Obv not the coach’s fault
Richard
3 hours ago
Go Hoooos !!!!!!!!
Old Bruin
3 hours ago
Tennessee hasn’t done THAT bad when you run the numbers….thanks to Florida and Texas
CavaDore
4 hours ago
“uVa Is OfF tHiS mEeT!!!”
*proceeds to over perform in every event and has broken 2 everything records
TX swammer
5 hours ago
I’ve never understood why more top tier recruits don’t choose Louisville. Albeiro is a top notch coach.
But you’re right, Albiero is top notch coach and Louisville is an extremely underrated city. Wonder if Arthur ever kicks himself for not taking a higher profile job
Could be wrong, but feels like the coaching carousel of upper echelon jobs that Arthur would be in line for feels stable for a while after a few years of chaos. I think there aren’t too many really old HCs and coaches might want to stay in place for awhile in this new roster cap era to see what the next iteration of college swimming really looks like.
If Arizona ever wants to revive their dumpster fire of a program and bring it back to the glory days/ Arthur is looking for a nice place to live and potentially retire, that could be a fit, but I think that Arthur and his family have really planted their roots in Louisville… Read more »
I think that’s a good observation, but I can identify a few higher-profile programs that I think might be less stable. I don’t want to name them because it’s been a full 12 hours since a coach has texted me to call me names and I’m enjoying my peace.
I think Ben Loorz has done enough in year 1 at Arizona for them to not be back on the market already. It wasn’t a total one year Cinderella rebuild performance, but there are a lot of positive signs coming out of Tucson. Lexi Duscherer is a fantastic example to hold up – 22.8 at Pac-12s last year to 22.0 at Big 12s this year. He’s got a bunch of other… Read more »
If Louisville keeps swimming the way they’re swimming, there won’t be too many programs higher than them. Arthur and his staff have built a strong program, they may want to stick around at least until the end of this Olympic cycle. There’s a lot of instability in the NCAA, if the Louisville athletic department supports swimming, staying put may be the best option. You made some good points regarding Arthur and his prospects, curious what will happen moving forward.
PsuFan
5 hours ago
A lot of the East coast teams aren’t adjusting to the time zone change well. Racing at 1 and 9 when your body has been waking up at 5 and going to bed at 9 for the last 6 months, definitely having an effect on Florida
Gretchen is tired. My theory is Gretchen had a monster performance at short course worlds, and it was too fast of a change over to ncaa. Throw in ACC’s in the middle of all that and there you go. I mean she’s right on pace with her norm, but it’s not what everyone was expecting and that’s not fair to her. Tennessee, obviously went all in at sec’s. I will never understand why they do that. Same with Texas. Maybe their tapers will hit later in the week who knows.
Teams like Stanford and Cal have had to travel to the Eastern time zone for this meet every year since Covid and have been fine. This has never been an issue until now. The location is something they have known about for a really long time. I don’t like that this is suddenly being used as an excuse.
Except Stanford and Cal did not swim as well the last few years…so there went your argument. Also, it’s not so much the time change but when you travel to the other coast. I’m not sure when Stanford and Cal flew to the East Coast the last few years for NCs but UVA flew out Monday, which I thought was very odd. Not sure why they wouldn’t just fly out a few days earlier to have more time to adjust.
TidalCessPool1979
6 hours ago
UVA swimming well, Stanford is swimming better. Obviously UVA has way more talent so they will win, but definitely a small crack in the UVA armor
It will be sobering to look at the SwimSwam article coming in the next few weeks that shows a count of returning points. Losing both the Walsh sisters doesn’t leave UVa broke, but it is clearly the case losing the sure thing of the Walsh sisters getting monster 55-60 individual & mucho grande relay points attribution will make UVA vs. Stanford + Texas + Cal look like a closer to fair fight on paper in the next year(s). That’s not to say the Lady Hoos can’t keep it rolling, especially considering how loaded they are beyond the Walsh sisters. But it will get more intriguing, is all.
What small crack in the University of Virginia armor? A. Canny swimming in the heats of the W 500 FR (seeded 12th or tied for 12th) has been the only stumbling block.
The level of expectations has been set by the psych sheets.
Anne Lepesant is the mother of four daughters, all of whom swam in college. With an undergraduate degree from Princeton (where she was an all-Ivy tennis player) and an MBA from INSEAD, she worked for many years in the financial industry, both in France and the U.S. Anne is currently …
I thought the prophecy was for one team to sweep the relays, break all the records and win nearly everything else. Ooops.
How would other teams motivate themselves if Virginia weren’t so good? Would be tough, it seems.
Texas, Tennessee, Florida off. The usual suspects. Florida and Texas having a predictably disastrous meet
IU, Louisville, Stanford, early winners for now.
I’ve sang my praises for Arthur and wanted him to take the Texas position. Louisville is kind of in an NC state situation where the caliber of school / location / town / dated pool holds the success of a team back. Obv not the coach’s fault
Go Hoooos !!!!!!!!
Tennessee hasn’t done THAT bad when you run the numbers….thanks to Florida and Texas
“uVa Is OfF tHiS mEeT!!!”
*proceeds to over perform in every event and has broken 2 everything records
I’ve never understood why more top tier recruits don’t choose Louisville. Albeiro is a top notch coach.
Awful pool + Mediocre school
But you’re right, Albiero is top notch coach and Louisville is an extremely underrated city. Wonder if Arthur ever kicks himself for not taking a higher profile job
I’ve wondered if he might now that his kids are wrapping up their time there.
Could be but would be tough to leave something that you built like that. From no swim tradition to what they do now is amazing.
Totally agree. That’s why “Franchise mode” is the most popular mode on video games. Building can be fun.
The prospect and challenge of proving you can do it again, though, could be a draw as well…
Could be wrong, but feels like the coaching carousel of upper echelon jobs that Arthur would be in line for feels stable for a while after a few years of chaos. I think there aren’t too many really old HCs and coaches might want to stay in place for awhile in this new roster cap era to see what the next iteration of college swimming really looks like.
If Arizona ever wants to revive their dumpster fire of a program and bring it back to the glory days/ Arthur is looking for a nice place to live and potentially retire, that could be a fit, but I think that Arthur and his family have really planted their roots in Louisville… Read more »
I think that’s a good observation, but I can identify a few higher-profile programs that I think might be less stable. I don’t want to name them because it’s been a full 12 hours since a coach has texted me to call me names and I’m enjoying my peace.
I think Ben Loorz has done enough in year 1 at Arizona for them to not be back on the market already. It wasn’t a total one year Cinderella rebuild performance, but there are a lot of positive signs coming out of Tucson. Lexi Duscherer is a fantastic example to hold up – 22.8 at Pac-12s last year to 22.0 at Big 12s this year. He’s got a bunch of other… Read more »
If Louisville keeps swimming the way they’re swimming, there won’t be too many programs higher than them. Arthur and his staff have built a strong program, they may want to stick around at least until the end of this Olympic cycle. There’s a lot of instability in the NCAA, if the Louisville athletic department supports swimming, staying put may be the best option. You made some good points regarding Arthur and his prospects, curious what will happen moving forward.
A lot of the East coast teams aren’t adjusting to the time zone change well. Racing at 1 and 9 when your body has been waking up at 5 and going to bed at 9 for the last 6 months, definitely having an effect on Florida
Indiana and Louisville are swimming lights out though?
Ah yes, that cozy East Coast beach town of Bloomington, Indiana.
Hawaii of the Midwest
Indiana is the same time zone as everyone on the east coast
Same time zone, but much shorter flight than a Florida, by about 90 minutes.
Gretchen is tired. My theory is Gretchen had a monster performance at short course worlds, and it was too fast of a change over to ncaa. Throw in ACC’s in the middle of all that and there you go. I mean she’s right on pace with her norm, but it’s not what everyone was expecting and that’s not fair to her. Tennessee, obviously went all in at sec’s. I will never understand why they do that. Same with Texas. Maybe their tapers will hit later in the week who knows.
Teams like Stanford and Cal have had to travel to the Eastern time zone for this meet every year since Covid and have been fine. This has never been an issue until now. The location is something they have known about for a really long time. I don’t like that this is suddenly being used as an excuse.
Except Stanford and Cal did not swim as well the last few years…so there went your argument. Also, it’s not so much the time change but when you travel to the other coast. I’m not sure when Stanford and Cal flew to the East Coast the last few years for NCs but UVA flew out Monday, which I thought was very odd. Not sure why they wouldn’t just fly out a few days earlier to have more time to adjust.
UVA swimming well, Stanford is swimming better. Obviously UVA has way more talent so they will win, but definitely a small crack in the UVA armor
It will be sobering to look at the SwimSwam article coming in the next few weeks that shows a count of returning points. Losing both the Walsh sisters doesn’t leave UVa broke, but it is clearly the case losing the sure thing of the Walsh sisters getting monster 55-60 individual & mucho grande relay points attribution will make UVA vs. Stanford + Texas + Cal look like a closer to fair fight on paper in the next year(s). That’s not to say the Lady Hoos can’t keep it rolling, especially considering how loaded they are beyond the Walsh sisters. But it will get more intriguing, is all.
What small crack in the University of Virginia armor? A. Canny swimming in the heats of the W 500 FR (seeded 12th or tied for 12th) has been the only stumbling block.
The level of expectations has been set by the psych sheets.