2018 M. NCAA Picks: Rivals Raring to Cut In On Cal-Texas Tango in 400 Medley Relay


400 Medley Relay

  • NCAA record: 2:59.22, Texas, 2017
  • American record: 3:01.51, California, 2017
  • U.S. Open record: 2:59.22, Texas, 2017
  • 2017 NCAA Champion: Texas (2:59.22)

Arguably, the Texas Longhorns’ current run of domination really got rolling  three years ago when they won the 400 medley relay to cap off the first night of NCAAs.  Sure, they’d already won the 200 free relay and the 500 free earlier that evening, but it was the epic come-from-behind victory over the Cal Bears that showed that Texas had come to play.  They followed that up solid victories the next two years, with Cal coming in 2nd both years.  However, Texas has lost Will Licon on breaststroke and Jack Conger on free, and Cal has lost Ryan Murphy on backstroke, while other teams have improved, meaning that this event is much more wide open that it has been in years.

To give you an idea of just how close this event is, here’s a comparison of what we could find for the best times (either flat or relay start) by the likely swimmers of six different teams:

Team Back Breast Fly Free Total
Indiana Fantoni Finnerty Lanza Pieroni
45.17 50.16 44.79 41.11 3:01.2
Texas Shebat Melzer Schooling Ringgold
44.35 52.50 43.34 41.23 3:01.5
Cal Carr Hoppe Josa Hoffer
45.93 50.97 44.59 41.23 3:02.7
NC State Stewart Molacek Held Ress
44.53 52.27 44.79 40.87 3:02.5
Florida Taylor Dressel Szaranek Switkowski
45.53 50.03 45.25 41.50 3:02.3
USC Tribuntsov Vissering Carter Condorelli
44.76 51.23 44.81 41.40 3:02.2

We may have missed one or two times in there, and no, there’s no guarantee that these will be the exact lineups, and no, we don’t expect every swimmer to hit their best times, but this illustrates that there are six different teams capable of swimming 3:02 or better, at least on paper.  In 2014, Cal won with a 3:02.66, with no other team in faster than 3:04.77.  In 2015 and 2016, only Cal and Texas were under 3:04.  Last year, five different teams were under 3:04, with four teams at 3:02 or better.  Like we said; this event has gotten fast.

The Indiana Hoosiers sit at the top of the psych sheet, thanks their 3:01.30 from the Big Ten Championships that’s one of the fastest times ever.  Ian Finnerty, Vini Lanza, and Blake Pieroni all return from last year, while backstroke, up to now their weak leg, relatively speaking, was shored up by the arrival of Gabriel Fantoni, who’s been 45.17 this year.  With a time that’s over two seconds faster than any other team’s this season, it’s very tempting to go ahead and pencil the Hoosiers in as the favorite here.  But, last year they were also seeded 1st, then their middle two legs swam a combined one second slower at NCAAs than they did in February, and that, along with other teams substantially improving on their seed time, saw Indiana end up finishing 6th.

The next-fastest time this season belongs to the Cal Bears, who swam 3:03.01 at Pac 12s. As we mentioned, they also loss a substantial piece in Ryan Murphy.  Once a strength, the backstroke leg now becomes the Bears’ weakest leg, with freshman Daniel Carr‘s best time of 45.93 about two seconds slower than Murphy’s time over the past few years.  Another freshman, Ryan Hoffer, went 45.58 over two years ago as a high schooler, but we haven’t seen him swim backstroke much at Cal this year.  Relay options abound for Dave Durden: either Connor Hoppe or Andrew Seliskar should go sub-51 on breaststroke, with Seliskar swimming the leg at Pac 12s, but Hoppe handling it the past two year at NCAAs.  Matthew Josa has split 44 multiple times on butterfly, although Justin Lynch is available as well.  Michael Jensen anchored last year, but the aforementioned Lynch or Hoffer should also be able to give Cal a 41-low leg.  Any of those arrangements should easily put the Bears into the 3:02-low range, with, a sub-3:02 swim certainly possible, and maybe even likely.

The 400 medley is the relay that NC State has tended to emphasize the least at NCAAs over the past few years, but Ryan Held‘s swimming this at ACCs this year could signal a shift in strategy.  The Wolfpack’s seed time of 3:04.24 from ACCs included Andreas Vazaios over Coleman Stewart on backstroke, but Stewart had a breakout meet at ACCs, ripping a 44.53 in the individual event.  Newcomer Jacob Molacek is a former national high school record holder in the 100 breast, Held is a sub-45 butterflier, and Justin Ress split an eye-popping 40.87 on the 400 free relay that set the American Record last month.

Florida is another squad with plenty of options.  They used a lineup of Bayley Main, Caeleb Dressel, Mark Szaranek, and Jan Switkowski at SECs last month, where they combined for a 3:04.55 that puts them 4th on the psych sheet. Yet, they’re capable of a much faster time.  Freshman Michael Taylor went 45.53 at Florida’s Last Chance meet, which would be a substantial improvement on Main’s 46-high in the relay.  Dressel was faster his on record-setting flat start, and Switkowski has been a bit faster on free.  Remember that Dressel now holds the American Record in breast, fly, and free, and Szaranek and Switkowski are so versatile that Gregg Troy could certainly do some mix-and-match here.

Southern California took 4th place last year with a 3:02.20 effort, and return all four swimmers this year.  There’s a little uncertainty, as Robert Glinta could replace Ralf Tribuntsov on backstroke, and Carsten Vissering spent a the first part of the season studying abroad.  Still, you should expect solid performances from the front half, and with Olympians Dylan Carter and Santo Condorelli holding down the back half, there’s no reason the Trojans shouldn’t be right around the same time as last year: they’re seeded 5th at 3:04.95 and last year they were seeded 9th at 3:04.51.

For the want of a nail breaststroker…
the kingdom title was lost

Okay, so that’s not how the old saying goes, but it could be the story for the Longhorns this year.  Last year, Will Licon ripped a 49.75, one of the fastest splits ever, but with Licon out of eligibility, Texas doesn’t have anyone who’s been within two seconds of Licon’s time.  Senior Austin Temple did break 52 on a relay start as a freshman, but hasn’t made NCAAs, or come close to that split, since then.  From Meet Mobile and Texas social media, it appears that the Longhorns are bringing along junior breaststroker Casey Melzer as an uninvited relay-only swimmer.  Melzer’s best flat start is just under 53, and he split 52.50 at last December’s Texas Hall of Fame.  That’s a 2.75s difference, while Cal was only 2.29 seconds behind last year.  Still, the rest of the Texas squad is strong enough that there is a chance that the Longhorns could overcome that gap.  While John Shebat sat out several meets this year with an injury, he went 44-mid in the backstroke last year.  Joseph Schooling split 43.6 on the fly leg last year after splitting 43.3 in 2016.  Tate Jackson broke out with a 41.27 in the 100 free at Big 12s last month, while veteran Brett Ringgold split a 41.23 on the 400 free relay while appearing to be unshaved.  Even if Shebat is off, some combination of a slight drop by Melzer, Schooling matching his best time, and Jackson or Ringgold going 41.0 could keep Texas in the running to defend their title in this event.  They’re currently seeded 9th with a time of 3:05.71 from the Big 12 championships.

One of those six teams is almost certain to win, but there are several other times that will vie for a spot in the championship final.  Texas A&M, Louisville, and Virginia all are seeded with 3:05s, all teams had impressive conference championship meets, and all of their women’s teams had great meet at last week’s NCAA championships.  Stanford is only seeded 10th, but returns all four swimmers from last year’s squad that finished 7th at NCAAs.  Missouri is seeded 11th, and has looked better than expected after losing three swimmers from last year’s 3rd place team.

Top 8 Picks:

Place Team Season Best
2017 NCAA Finish
1 Cal 3:03.91 2nd (3:01.51)
2 Texas 3:05.71 1st (2:59.22)
3 Indiana 3:01.30 6th (3:03.96)
4 USC 3:04.95 4th (3:02.20)
5 Florida 3:04.55 8th (3:04.90)
6 NC State 3:04.24 12th (3:05.64)
7 Stanford 3:06.01 7th (3:04.46)
8 Texas A&M 3:05.13 18th (3:07.16)

Darkhorse: You can’t count out any team that has a breaststroker who can go 50-mid, as does Tennessee in Peter John Stevens.  If he and the rest of the legs can match their best times, the Volunteers could find themselves right on the bubble of the championship final, or at the top of the consolation final.

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5 years ago

After Blake 200 and Lanza and Finnerty being almost 1,5 sec faster on the splits compared to Conference.. IU can probably gun even for the Record.. Only Fantoni need to keep his 45 low.. or maybe a 44 now??

5 years ago

If Molacek is on his breastroke game NC STATE will win.

5 years ago

I’m surprised with how low NC State is predicted to finish, they do have some of the fastest splits this year in Ress with 40.87 and Stewart 44.53 100 Back. Ryan should definitely be able to go faster than 44.7 on fly with relay start…

5 years ago

If Tennessee can remember which stroke they are swimming they have an excellent chance of top 8!

5 years ago

This isn’t exactly a time prediction- But this may be the most interesting NCs meet since as long as I can remember. Dressel will go out with a bang, there’s Schooling, there’s the Shebat injury. This meet will entirely lie in the swimmers, and missing one day of momentum may change the whole course of the meet. Imagine if Shebat and Schooling underperform, Shebat misses the podium or something with discomfort, 45 high. Schooling misses 200 fly by .2 to Quah and Lanza. Schooling misses the 100 with Dressel, barely. Cal might just win. But on the flip side- Texas still has the advantage. With Licon and Conger gone, no they don’t swim the same events but the guys in… Read more »

5 years ago

I sear this year I can’t even tell who’s going to win each event

Silent Observer
5 years ago

I honestly don’t have Texas in the top 3. I predict them coming in 4th or 5th. Depending on how FL and NCState field their relays. I just believe Texas lost too much from Conger and Licon graduating to get close to their 2:59 record time this year. I would be surprised to see them dip below 3:02. Majority of it will depend on how healthy Shebat is and how good their breastroke leg pans out.

And why? with Indiana coming in with the top seed, are they predicted to be slower? Do we think they will be slower than seed times?

Reply to  Silent Observer
5 years ago

Silent Observer- those aren’t time predictions. Those are the times from last year’s meet.

Silent Observer
Reply to  Lauren Neidigh
5 years ago

I understand that Lauren, sorry, I was not referring to the 2017(NCAAs) time column. I was purely just referring to the seed times and seeing Indiana placed 3rd.

I would think the team that is coming in with the top time, faster than cal’s 2nd place time from the year before with Murphy in back. Would be theoretically be predicted to take the gold, almost by default. But I know this is all subjective and I am not here to say you wonderful SwimSwam writers are inadequate. Just wanted to strike up a conversation about IU and their seemingly inevitable top 2 placement 🙂

Reply to  Silent Observer
5 years ago

Oooh gotcha. Sorry just wanted to make sure you knew so there was no confusion 🙂 I wouldn’t be surprised to see them win this one. I think I have them 1st in my pick ’em, but it’s a tough call!

5 years ago

This is the relay I can see Troy leaving Dressel off of

Reply to  Pvdh
5 years ago

What about the 800 FRR, they’re loaded with 200 freestylers and don’t need him.

Reply to  ArtVanDeLegh10
5 years ago

I mean if he does put him on the 800 free relay, this is the relay that I think he would drop

Reply to  Pvdh
5 years ago

I concur

Reply to  Pvdh
5 years ago

They need him here. They got the A cut in the 400 FR without him midseason. Between Rooney, Baqlah, Szaranek, and Switkowski, I think they could make the A final in that one. If they use him in the 800, I’d leave him off the 4Free.

Reply to  Aquajosh
5 years ago

Good call

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