2022 FINA WORLD CUP – TORONTO
- Friday, October 28 – Sunday, October 30, 2022
- Toronto Pan Am Sports Centre (TPASC), Toronto, Canada
- SCM (25 meters)
- Start Times
- Prelims: 9:30 am local (ET)
- Finals: 6:00 pm local (ET)
- Meet Central
- Psych Sheet
- Live Results (Omega)
- Live Stream (FINA YouTube)
World champion Kieran Smith is getting comfortable with racing in the 400 SCM freestyle, saying he approaches it by going out hard the first 200 while conserving enough to have a good back half. Smith also laments that his once-SEC-now-International opponent Matt Sates is hard to beat, having finished behind Sates in both Berlin and now Toronto.
Agnel’s 400 converts to 4:02 low. Scm to SCY is a pretty accurate conversion.
And people try and say Phelps couldn’t go under 4:00 in a 500… smh
To be quite frank,what MP might have gone is irrelevant to today…
Ya but what do you think he could have gone in a 500 in his prime?
So a story about Kieran Smith has turned into an MP fan page?
MP lives in our walls
What do you all think Michael Phelps could have gone in a 500 yard free?
Sub 4:00 for sure.
I think he would have been sub 4:00 as well with how much speed he had and endurance in 400 IM. Might have been of one of his best events. Think the 400 free LC would have been all time as well
lmaooo Phelps would’ve gone 4:13-4:18 range. He’s a clear long course swimmer (and goat in LCM) but doesn’t have the explosiveness or lactic acid tolerance for SCY. You are taking the same drugs as Sun Yang if you think Phelps goes sub 4:00 500 yard free, especially 10+ years ago where the standard was lower than it was now.
might be the worst take i will see all week and it is only Monday
He went 4:09 when he was 19 not fully rested. I don’t think Phelps would have been 4:00 or lower because he was training for IM, but he had the potential for it. Thorpe definitely could have too.
Phelps was a middle distance swimmer. He trained a ton of Freestyle, but lets not act like he wasn’t training for Free as well as IM. If he went 4:09 not rested, he would have likely been faster than that shaved/rested/at a big meet, but 4:00 is 6 seconds faster than anyone else in history. 4:02 is going out in 46 flat and then holding 49s the rest of the way – he wasn’t doing that.
Today is Halloween not 420 bro. Put down the blunt.
Phelps was better at LCM than SCY, but I believe he had a legendary lactic acid tolerance. Like, it’s been measured and documented. I could see him breaking 4:05 fully tapered in his middle-distance prime (2007-08).
Given that his best from an in season grand prix meet in 2008 was a 4:10…
Yes, 4.10.4 in mid-January 2008 (without Speedo Lzr) in a Cal meeting, two months after breaking his wrist, swimming a lot of races and, obviously, unrested and focused towards Beijing Olympics.
I feel like while MP was amazing off the turn he lagged behind in actually getting into the wall. He’d definitely be an all timer on the event but tbh I think it’s too many turns for him to really get into it.
I’m pretty sure there is video of Phelps swimming the 500. Also, no way he is even close to breaking 4 minutes.
At a rested meet?
Sub 4 no(unless he only did 100/200/400 free training) but 4:04-6 seems reasonable if NCAA Phelps had existed and did it at a shaved/tapered meet. And at the time a 4:08-4:10 was title worthy
His fastest was a 4:10 at a grand prix meet in January 2008. He was a 4:20 in prelims and 4:10 in finals.
At that same meet he went a 3:38 in the 400 IM, a couple seconds off his 3:36 PR from 2006.
In February 2008 he was a 1:45 in the LCM 200 FR, vs his 1:43 at the Olympics that summer.
At that same meet he was a 4:14 in the LCM 400 IM, vs his 4:03 at the Olympics.
Throwing those numbers together and doing some hand wavy math to come up with some 100% scientific projections, I think he’d have been in the vicinity of a 4:03-4:05 if he’d just swum it shaved and tapered;… Read more »