(Updated With Diving) Day 2 Ups/Downs Show Texas Expected To Extend Its Lead

2025 Men’s NCAA Swimming and Diving Championships

For those unfamiliar with swimming terminology, the concept of “Ups” and “Downs” is a good way to track which teams performed best during prelims. In prelims at the NCAA Championships swimmers qualify for one of three finals: the top eight finishers make the ‘A’ final (Ups) and places nine through 16 make the ‘B’ final (Downs). In finals, swimmers are locked into their respective final, meaning a swimmer in the ‘B’ final can only place as high as 9th or as low as 16th, even if they swim the fastest or slowest time of the event in any final.

With that in mind, we track “Ups” and “Downs” after each prelims session as a way to follow the team race. 

Team Scores Thru Day 1

  1. Texas — 74
  2. California — 72
  3. Georgia/Indiana — 54
  4. NC State — 50
  5. Arizona State — 48
  6. Stanford — 46
  7. Tennessee — 34
  8. Alabama — 30
  9. Florida State — 24
  10. Florda — 22
  11. Louisville — 18
  12. Ohio State — 16
  13. Auburn — 14
  14. Michigan — 12
  15. UNC/USC — 10
  16. Texas A&M/UVA — 8
  17. Georgia Tech/Virginia Tech — 6
  18. Army — 4

Texas took control of one of the most exciting team title races in many seasons on Day 1 and held firm during the first prelims session of the 2025 NCAA Men’s Division I Championships. Let’s break down the numbers and take a look at how.

Ups and Downs

The Longhorns have the most finalists and ‘A’ finalists of any program, pacing with nine finalists tonight, five of whom will swim in an ‘A’ final. That’s two more ‘A’ finalists than California, the next-best program. We can see the midseason addition of Chris Guiliano paying off in real time this morning; without him, the Longhorns would have no ‘A’ finalists in the 50 freestyle and would only have one more ‘A’ finalists than the Golden Bears.

The Hoosiers are the other team expected to join the Longhorns and Golden Bears in the team title race. The swimmers did outpace their seeds by +14 this morning, which we explore further below. However, a stumble from last year’s third-place finisher Carson Tyler early in the 1-meter diving prelims hurt the Hoosiers as he ended up not being able to make up the difference and will take part in the ‘B’ flight instead of the ‘A’.

All 500 Free 200 IM 50 Free 1 mtr Diving
Texas 5/4 2/2 2/1 1/0 0/1
California 3/3 1/1 1/1 1/1 0/0
Indiana 3/4 1/0 1/1 0/2 1/1
Florida 2/3 0/1 1/0 1/1 0/1
Georgia 2/1 2/0 0/1 0/0 0/0
Arizona State 2/1 0/1 0/0 2/0 0/0
Tennessee 2/1 0/0 0/0 2/0 0/1
LSU 1/1 1/0 0/0 0/1 0/0
Michigan 1/1 0/0 1/1 0/0 0/0
NC State 1/1 0/0 0/0 1/1 0/0
Alabama 1/0 1/0 0/0 0/0 0/0
VT 1/0 0/0 1/0 0/0 0/0
Stanford 2/0 0/0 1/0 0/0 1/0
Texas A&M 0/2 0/0 0/1 0/1 0/0
Ohio State 0/2 0/0 0/1 0/1 0/0
Yale 0/1 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0
USC 1/2 0/1 0/0 0/0 1/1
Kentucky 0/1 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0
UNC 0/1 0/0 0/1 0/0 0/0
Georgia Tech 1/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/1
SMU 1/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 1/0
Miami (FL) 1/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 1/0
Purdue 1/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 1/1
Utah 1/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 1/0
Missouri 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/1
Arizona 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/1

Projected Scoring

Texas, Cal, and Indiana all improved from their projected Day 2 scoring, while Florida continues to struggle after a heartbreaking 200 medley relay disqualification to open the meet. When using the psych sheet to evaluate the teams involved in the title race, it’s important to keep in mind that Cal’s seeds where well below where we expect them to finish.

Based on the individual events, the Golden Bears are +17 against the psych sheet this morning. But, how much does that tell us about how their morning went when defending champion Destin Lasco wasn’t seeded to score in the 200 IM?

Let’s look back at the last three years to compare.

Day 2 Ups/Downs Day 2 Projected Points Individual Scoring After Prelims
2025 3/3 56.5
2024 4/0 65
2023 5/2 91
2022 4/1 70

So, after an electric 800 freestyle relay where the squad of Jack Alexy, Gabriel Jett, Destin Lasco, and Lucas Henveaux became the first squad to break 6:00, California has the lowest projected individual Day 2 points total and the fewest number of Day 2 ‘A’ finalists it’s had in the last three years.

Arizona State put on a convincing show on Day 2 last year when it won the title. The Golden Bears aren’t too far from their projected scores from last year, but are off pace from 2023 and 2022, years when the team won the title.

This morning does not disqualify them from the team race at all, but the team needs to do more if they are going to catch the Longhorns.

Day 1 Actual Day 2 Psych Sheet Projection (no diving) 500 Free 200 IM 50 Free 1 mtr Diving Prelims Projected 200 Free Relay Projection Total Day 2 Projection Day 2 Projection + Day 1 Actual
Texas 74 113 49 36 11 5 101 26 127 201
California 72 61 19 22 15.5 0 56.5 22 78.5 150.5
Indiana 54 48 12 23 13 27 75 14 89 143
Tennessee 34 77.5 0 0 36 6 42 40 82 116
Florida 22 92.5 3 14 18.5 4 39.5 34 73.5 95.5
Georgia 54 34 27 3 0 0 30 0 30 84
Arizona State 48 58 1 0 28 0 29 32 61 109
LSU 0 10 15 0 9 0 24 0 24 24
Michigan 12 56 0 20 0 0 20 28 48 60
NC State 50 49 0 0 16 0 16 30 46 96
VT 6 23 0 15 0 0 15 12 27 33
Stanford 46 9 0 15 0 17 32 8 40 86
Alabama 30 12 11 0 0 0 11 0 11 41
Texas A&M 8 16 0 6 3 0 9 4 13 21
Yale 0 17 7 0 0 0 7 0 7 7
Ohio State 16 32 0 1.5 5 0 6.5 18 24.5 40.5
USC 10 0 6 0 0 17 23 0 23 33
Kentucky 0 6 5 0 0 0 5 0 5 5
UNC 10 0 0 1.5 0 0 1.5 0 1.5 11.5
Florida State 24 4 0 0 0 0 0 4 4 28
Louisville 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18
Auburn 14 20.5 0 0 0 0 0 10 10 24
UVA 8 4 0 0 0 0 0 4 4 12
Wisconsin 0 27 0 0 0 0 0 24 24 24
Army 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4
Georgia Tech 4 0 0 0 0 15 15 0 15 19
SMU 0 0 0 0 0 14 14 0 14 14
Miami (FL) 0 0 0 0 0 13 13 0 13 13
Purdue 0 0 0 0 0 21 21 0 21 21
Utah 0 0 0 0 0 11 11 0 11 11

In This Story

22
Leave a Reply

Subscribe
Notify of

22 Comments
newest
oldest most voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
mds
2 days ago

Indiana is swimming quite well, but if they are to be in the contest with Cal/Texas by Saturday afternoon, they will need to be significantly better than just 1/1 on both the 3M and the Platform.

C’mon, Hoosiers. Good luck Drew crew.

Swim Observer
3 days ago

diving
Indiana 1/1
Texas 0/1
Cal 0/0

Anonymous
3 days ago

off topic but Audrey Derivaux just swam a 2:06.6 LC 2bk at central zone east sectionals 🫡

Professor Goon
Reply to  Anonymous
2 days ago

Potential bid to Singapore in this or the 2 fly (or both)?

15m steps ahead
3 days ago

Actually Texas doing pretty fine here, 122 is +9 from day 2 projected, while California +17.5 and Indiana +14, Florida minus again (-23)

15m steps ahead
3 days ago

Diving
Indiana 1/1
Purdue 1/1
USC 1/1
Stanford 1/0
Georgia Tech 1/0
SMU 1/0
Miami FL 1/0
Utah 1/0
Texas 0/1
Florida 0/1
Tennessee 0/1
Arizona 0/1
Missouri 0/1

15m steps ahead
3 days ago

Genuine question, who else do Tennessee have besides Crooks and Gui Santos? For a top 5 contender, they seem to rely on them a lot

I miss the ISL (Go dawgs)
Reply to  15m steps ahead
3 days ago

Martin Espernberger is good he’ll be an A finalist in the 2 fly barring a bad prelim. But yeah they’re very reliant on the sprints and relays.

15m steps ahead
Reply to  I miss the ISL (Go dawgs)
3 days ago

Another 25 years olds international?

Last edited 3 days ago by 15m steps ahead
snailSpace
Reply to  15m steps ahead
3 days ago

Nah he’s 21.

I miss the ISL (Go dawgs)
Reply to  15m steps ahead
3 days ago

He’s 21 but it is interesting that their three best swimmers are internationals.

bob
Reply to  15m steps ahead
3 days ago

For someone who frequently hates on internationals, your English is absolute 💩

15m steps ahead
Reply to  bob
3 days ago

Lmaoo

Andrew
Reply to  I miss the ISL (Go dawgs)
3 days ago

They said that last year and he choked and didn’t get a second swim. I put ASU and NCS ahead of them and got viciously downvoted and then raised that same question and no one could answer who Tennessee has that can score individual points not named crooks or caribe

Horninco
3 days ago

Cal has a big Saturday, Texas needs a lot of room

Joel Lin
Reply to  Horninco
3 days ago

My belief is Cal going 1 up & 1 down, not getting 2 up or more than 2 scorers in the 50 was very concerning. NCAA team champions are rarely squads that don’t get at least 3 top 3 relays. They need a dramatically better showing from their sprint group in the final 2 morning sessions.

JeahBrah
Reply to  Joel Lin
3 days ago

Cal has a better shot at 3 top 3 relays than either Texas or Indiana

Joel Lin
Reply to  JeahBrah
2 days ago

I’d agree with that point, but I also think Cal will need that outcome moreso than Indiana or Texas.

Walsh-Madden-Grimes-Weinstein
3 days ago

Where is the Tylenol?

About Sophie Kaufman

Sophie Kaufman

Sophie grew up in Boston, Massachusetts, which means yes, she does root for the Bruins, but try not to hold that against her. At 9, she joined her local club team because her best friend convinced her it would be fun. Shoulder surgery ended her competitive swimming days long ago, …

Read More »