Michael Andrew’s Thoughts on 1:57 200 IM in Mission Viejo: “Ehhh”

2021 PRO SWIM SERIES – MISSION VIEJO (#3)

Reported by Nick Pecoraro.

MEN’S 200 METER INDIVIDUAL MEDLEY — FINALS

  • Pro Swim Series Record: 1:56.32, Michael Phelps (NBAC) — 2012
  • Wave II Trials Cut: 2:03.02
  • Wave I Trials Cut: 2:04.09

Top 3:

  1. Michael Andrew (Race Pace), 1:57.98
  2. Andrew Seliskar (Cal Aquatics), 2:00.16
  3. Jay Litherland (Dynamo), 2:00.20

Michael Andrew stuck to his race strategy of taking each stroke out valiantly, splitting 24.07 on the 50 fly followed by 29.78 back and 33.72 breast. Andrew looked sharp throughout the majority of his last 50 until the lactic acid build-up slowed his tempo down into the flags, splitting 30.41. Nonetheless, Andrew pulled out his second 2021 PSS win in the 200 IM with a season best of 1:57.98. Andrew now moves up to No. 8 in the world, remaining the fastest American this season with the only sub-1:59 time.

While Jay Litherland is known for his closing speed, it was Andrew Seliskar who out-split Litherland 28.28 to 28.90 on the final 50 free to place second by four one-hundredths. Seliskar remains the No. 8 American this season at 2:00.16 while Jay Litherland jumped Josh Prenot (2:00.62) for No. 9 in the nation at 2:00.20.

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Mr Piano
1 month ago

“We haven’t been working on speed”
*Splits 24.07 on first 50

Bro is he gonna go 23.5, 29.0, 32.5, 32.6 when he gets speed?

Hswimmer
Reply to  Mr Piano
1 month ago

That’s what we are all thinking lol

anonymous
Reply to  Mr Piano
1 month ago

I think it is more that he does not have the “easy speed” swimmers talk about. If he is aiming for the WR then going out in 24 is where he needs to be.

Dudeman
Reply to  anonymous
1 month ago

If he’s going for the WR then he’s gonna have to finish under 28. His first 3 50’s are about as fast as he can make them (give or take maybe half a second). Any major improvement now will have to be on the last 50, that’s where he’s 3 seconds behind lochte and phelps and what is holding him back from 1:55 and most certainly a 1:54

Togger
Reply to  Dudeman
1 month ago

The lack of imagination hurts. When MA goes the first ever 1.53 after an opening 150 of 1.20 point backed up with a solid 33 mid you’ll look back and rue this comment.

Spectatorn
Reply to  Mr Piano
1 month ago

you don’t think he has more upside for backstroke faster than 29?
he was 24.07, 29.15, 33.47, 30.14 at Des Moines last year.

Last edited 1 month ago by Spectatorn
Do it!!
Reply to  Mr Piano
1 month ago

He’s literally gonna go 23.5, 28 low, 32 low then 29+ If he holds it together or 31. 1:24 low-mid at 150 so either he is a 1:54 or 1:55 (1:56 if he really can’t hang) depending on free. I wont be surprised if he accidentally goes 27+ on back but that might be too much of a send.

Svird
1 month ago

Can’t wait until he easily wins trials with a 30+ freestyle leg. The swim boomers who have complained about MA since 2013 will be MALDING. “But his technique 😭😭😭 he doesn’t even train right 😡😡😡”

WHKIRCH
Reply to  Svird
1 month ago

You can still win trials and have some major flaws that you need to work on. Look at Dressel constantly critiquing his swims (including world records) to find ways he can better.

M d e
Reply to  WHKIRCH
1 month ago

But Andrew also comments on what he can do better and has done film reviews similar to Dressel…

anonymous
Reply to  WHKIRCH
1 month ago

And yet Dressel does not change anything.

Dudeman
Reply to  anonymous
1 month ago

His technique is already dialed in so any changes he makes will likely be harder to spot or be more in regards to race strategy. Dressel rarely falls apart technically at the end of his races which indicates large amounts of training with an efficient technique to be able to hold it together, MA straight up falls apart the last 15m of every 200 IM he pushes hard and even some of his 100 swims, it’s not really comparable.

I like MA and would love to see him dial in his technique and get to a medal at the Olympics, he seems like a very nice person and deserves the success but right now he is the only thing inhibiting… Read more »

anonymous
Reply to  Dudeman
1 month ago

CD is not ranked in the world in 200 Meters IM

Dudeman
Reply to  anonymous
1 month ago

sure, but MA isn’t the #1 swimmer in the world in any event, nor does he hold a world record

anonymous
Reply to  Dudeman
1 month ago

You were saying CD was dialed in when discussing 200 IM yet he is not ranked in the world

Dudeman
Reply to  anonymous
1 month ago

I meant his technique is “dialed in” in general, across all strokes and all the distances he swims, which applies to the 200IM yes but also to everything else he swims. MA still has issues holding his stroke together whenever he gets tired, doesn’t matter which race it is

Anonymous
Reply to  Dudeman
1 month ago

Ok so he has technique good enough to not be ranked in the 200 IM long course.

Dudeman
Reply to  Anonymous
1 month ago

but good enough to be a world record holder and repeat world champion in multiple events. I think any swimmer would prefer those types of performances over being ranked 6th in the 200IM and not being able to swim more than 200 meters per session without being completely spent

Admin
Reply to  Svird
1 month ago

While I appreciate the clapback sentiment, I don’t think he can win at trials, certainly not ‘easily,’ with a 30+ freestyle leg. I think he could win with the slowest closing split in the final, but I think it’s gotta be 29.9-something to do it.

Svird
Reply to  Braden Keith
1 month ago

Yeah comment is mostly a troll. But I agree with Ol’ Longhorn from the other day. MA has been easily beating the American 200im field in season, and at the end of the day whoever wins is all that matters.

Mr Piano
Reply to  Svird
1 month ago

Yea but people like Seli are gonna have bigger drops at trials because they train a lot more in yardage. MA historically doesn’t drop as much with USRPT, especially because he shaves for every in season meet. Not saying Andrew won’t win at trials, but it’s gonna be a lot closer than the pro meets.

WestCoastRefugee
Reply to  Mr Piano
1 month ago

This is pure speculation. Seli first broke 2:00 8 years ago, and he has only dropped .2 since 2018. How much time are you expecting him to drop? He has been busting 2:00 (or better) in season swims since he was 16. Not sure how much more he can squeeze out of this event.

Dudeman
Reply to  WestCoastRefugee
1 month ago

not sure he was referring specifically to Seli since he said “people LIKE seli” meaning people that are big taper swimmers. The big appeal of USRPT is that you can go fast anytime you want but the “taper” is very minimal so we have an idea of what MA will go before he even swims. Then there are people like Dressel, Seli, Haas etc… who will swim 2 seconds faster over 100m when tapered and even more in a 200. So yeah MA has been beating all the other US guys this season but we don’t actually know how fast they can really swim, whereas it’s safe to say MA will most likely be 1:56.5 with a few tenths in… Read more »

anonymous
Reply to  Dudeman
1 month ago

Michael Phelps swam 1:45 200 free in March of 2012 at Columbus Pro Series. Dressel, Seli, Haas, etc need to wake up.

Dudeman
Reply to  anonymous
1 month ago

one example from the GOAT, who historically is also a big taper swimmer, is not a terrific example

Mr Piano
Reply to  anonymous
1 month ago

Michael Phelps had been missing so much training that year, and he had just come down from altitude. He was basically half rested anyway. Phelps in 2008 went 1:46.2 in season

anonymous
Reply to  Mr Piano
1 month ago

They don’t rest at the Olympic training center.

cynthia curran
Reply to  Mr Piano
1 month ago

Michael parents are from South Africa so they think out of the box similar to tech wiz Elon Musk who also is South African.. They use Usrpt, while Musk locates his star ship production in more rural Brownsville Texas. Not certain if USRPT works for Michael like locating the starship works for Elon.

Swimmer
Reply to  cynthia curran
1 month ago

MugSeven
Reply to  cynthia curran
1 month ago

Well said

Steve Nolan
Reply to  Svird
1 month ago

honestly this is the first i am hearing of “malding” and I must say, I am not ‘here’ for it.

Former Big10
Reply to  Steve Nolan
1 month ago

per the internet: “Malding” is a combination of two words. You have “mad” on the one hand and “balding” on the other. Ergo, it literally means that someone is both mad and balding. And, when used, it usually means that someone is so mad that they are starting to go bald”

Last edited 1 month ago by Former Big10
Anonymoose
Reply to  Steve Nolan
1 month ago

not so young anymore are we

Steve Nolan
Reply to  Anonymoose
1 month ago

i am incredibly old

But I also do not get “mad” online so you can not say that I am malding. Do not put in the paper that I got mad.

Thezwimmer
1 month ago

He split 29.4 in prelims. He’s obviously capable of doing it. Just needs to find the balance

fluidg
Reply to  Thezwimmer
1 month ago

After 3 weeks of hard LCM training, balance just means going slow. MA has ridiculous power and needs to be rested to have access to his easy speed. He’s an extremely tough competitor who never backs down from anyone. A combination of taper and toughness will get him well under :30 coming home.

Mean Dean
Reply to  fluidg
1 month ago

This reads like a copypasta

Ol' Longhorn
Reply to  fluidg
1 month ago

Don’t know about the “well under” part. I think he should just build the last 50 instead of going into panic mode that they’re going to catch him and blasting it until he dies.

Pvdh
Reply to  Thezwimmer
1 month ago

If he takes it out slower he’s going to be able to bring it back faster. That’s not rocket science.

old fly
Reply to  Pvdh
1 month ago

He was nearly as fast in the first 100 in prelim as in final. What looked as if slower was the breast time which actually was due to a bad turn. Effortwise, the difference between the two first 150s is just a little, but it may just crossed his threshold.

Ol' Longhorn
Reply to  Thezwimmer
1 month ago

Yeah, and he went faster total time in finals. No one gives a rat’s ass what the splits are, it’s who has the fastest overall time.

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