2017 M. NCAA Up/Downs: Texas Will Rise on Day 2

2017 MEN’S NCAA CHAMPIONSHIPS

For those unfamiliar with swimming terminology, the concept of “Ups” and “Downs” is a good way to track which teams performed best at prelims. In prelims, swimmers qualify for one of two finals heats: the top 8 finishers make the A final, while places 9 through 16 make the B final. In finals, swimmers are locked into their respective final, meaning a swimmer in the B heat (spots 9-16) can only place as high as 9th or as low as 16th, even if they put up the fastest or slowest time of any heat in the final.

With that in mind, we’ll be tracking “Ups” and “Downs” after each prelims session at the Men’s NCAA Championships. “Up” refers to swimmers in the A final and “Down” refers to swimmers in the B final.

REFRESHER: TEAM SCORES THROUGH DAY 1

  1. NC State                           40   2. Texas                              34
  3. Florida                            32   4. California                         30
  5. Southern Cali                      28   6. Univ of Georgia                    26
  7. Stanford                           24   8. Louisville                         22
  9. Indiana                            18  10. Wisconsin                          14
 11. Michigan                           12  12. Auburn                             10
 13. South Carolina                      8  14. Harvard                             6
 15. Arizona State                       4  16. Missouri                            2

Following day 1, the NC State Wolpack held an early lead over the defending champion Texas Longhorns, but the Longhorns are set to bounce back to the top of the standings in day 2 finals. Texas will have 5 “ups” and 8 total scoring swims tonight, giving them the most A finalists and the highest total.

Cal and NC State will look to fend off Florida. All 3 teams have 5 scoring swimmers tonight, but the Bers and Wolfpack have 3 “ups” to Florida’s 2.The Gators do have a slight edge over Cal, though, since they finished ahead of them in last night’s 800 free relay.

Below, you can see each team’s individual updown count, their relay updowns, and their projected scores for tonight based on their prelims performances.

**NOTE: UP/DOWNS DO NOT INCLUDE 1-METER DIVING, AS PRELIMS HAVE NOT CONCLUDED**

INDIVIDUAL UP/DOWNS:

Projected Day 2 Place Team Ups Downs Total Projected Day 2 Score
1 Texas 5 3 8 203
2 Florida 2 2 4 141
3 NC State 3 2 5 131.5
4 Cal 3 2 5 129
5 Stanford 1 5 6 104
6 Indiana 1 2 3 100
7 Missouri 1 x 1 79
8 Auburn 1 1 2 73.5
9 Georgia 2 x 2 69
10 USC 1 x 1 66
11 Louisville x x x 64
12 South Carolina 2 1 3 46
13 Michigan 2 x 2 39
14 Arizona State x x x 34
15 Wisconsin x 1 1 23
15 Alabama x 1 1 23
17 Tennessee x x x 18
18 Notre Dame x x x 12
19 Ohio State x x x 6
19 Florida State x x x 6
19 Harvard x x x 6
19 Virginia Tech x 1 1 6
23 Northwestern x 1 1 5
24 Arizona x x x 4
24 Texas A&M x x x 4
26 UNC x 1 1 2
27 Hawaii x 1 1 1

RELAY UP/DOWNS:

Projected Day 2 Place Team 200 Free Relay 400 Medley Relay Projected Day 2 Score
1 Texas Up Up 203
2 Florida Up Up 141
3 NC State Up Down 131.5
4 Cal Up Up 129
5 Stanford Down Up 104
6 Indiana Up Up 100
7 Missouri Up Up 79
8 Auburn Up Down 73.5
9 Georgia x Down 69
10 USC x Up 66
11 Louisville Down Up 64
12 South Carolina x x 46
13 Michigan x x 39
14 Arizona State Down Down 34
15 Wisconsin x x 23
15 Alabama Up x 23
17 Tennessee Down Down 18
18 Notre Dame Down Down 12
19 Ohio State x Down 6
19 Florida State Down x 6
19 Harvard x x 6
19 Virginia Tech x x 6
23 Northwestern x x 5
24 Arizona Down Down 4
24 Texas A&M Down x 4
26 UNC x x 2
27 Hawaii x x 1

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I’m asking help from swim swam and all of its readers. We need someone commentating this meet for the live stream. If anyone has contact information for our Me or someone to contact I would gladly go downtown to commentate this meet! Not asking for any compensation except for two tickets. Any help would help us all out.

theroboticrichardsimmons

I second this. The meet announcer (who I think is great) is really hard to hear on the live feed. We need someone easy to hear that can read out splits, etc, so we know how fast these guys are going. They finally added a running clock overlay to the feed (not having it for the 800 FRR was criminal) but without splits it really only has limited value.

Another newbie question.

Are the projected scores listed based on the average score for each heat (up average being presumably around 15, and low average presumably around 5) times the number of swimmers per school in each heat?

Or do these projections account for expected performance of the individual swimmers within each heat? For example, is Florida expected to score 20 in the 50 free by this model due to Dressel’s dominance, or does the model assume they will score 15 in this event?

Peter Davis

They are based on their actual prelim placing. The “Projected Day 2 Score” also includes Day 1 score added in.

Awesome! Thanks!

goldmedalgal

Texas should have some divers also

SwimSupporter

Only (barely) finaled one diver, Mark Anderson. 8th spot

Diving events are the same setup as swimming events. 8th spot is last A-Final but the top 16 all score. There are 3 total diving events for a maximum of 60 individual same as swimming.

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