SwimSwam Breakdown: Mid-Season Madness, ISL Playoffs & Jacoby Opens Floodgates

This week on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we cover the highlights from the first week of the NCAA Mid-season invites, the Finals picture after week 2 of the ISL playoffs, and what Lydia Jacoby signing with Arena means for the high school swimming community at large. See below for full list of topics:

NCAA Mid-Season Invites:

  • It was a good sign for Alabama head coach Margo Geer as her Tide rolled this weekend in their first rested outing with Geer at the helm
  • After taking a red-shirt season as a team, Arizona State had their “COVID comeback” as many of their athletes registered wins in Greensboro
  • Behind ACC records from Olympic medalists Alex Walsh and Kate Douglass, Virginia asserted themselves as the favorites to take the NCAA title over the Stanford women, who had strong showings themselves but not as much depth
  • Foreign freshman Ellen Walshe, Avery Wiseman, Andrei Minakov, and Leon Marchand all had their first major yards outings and all dropped major yards times

ISL Playoffs:

  • Dressel looked off in his playoff debut with the Condors
  • What will it take for Toronto to upset a London or LA for the 4th spot in the ISL final?

SINK or SWIM

  • Will Lydia Jaobcy’s signing with Arena open the floodgates for other high school stars to sign suit deals?
  • Is Kliment Kolesnikov the best bubble ring blower ever?
  • After seeing Claire Curzan down 3 National HS records in SCM, should high school state meets be held in SCM?
  • Will we see Caeleb Dressel‘s international event lineup change after announcing a switch in training with Anthony Nesty and Steve Jungbluth?
  • Will Adam Peaty compete in Eindhoven at all this season?

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Joe guiliano
1 year ago

College invites deserve there own article with some in depth analysis

Ghost
Reply to  Joe guiliano
1 year ago

Braden said that they were waiting til all Invites are done to do a comparison.

jamesjabc
1 year ago

You got the ISL playoff stuff wrong re Toronto. You said Toronto’s best shot is winning their final match and London coming third to LA and Energy. That would still result in London beating them. They need to win their match, and have LA come third, not London. London currently has a 1st and a 2nd, while LA has a 1st and a 3rd. Both LA and London beat Toronto in a tiebreak.

Realistically, LA third and Toronto first is their only shot. But I absolutely do not see Toronto beating Cali unless Cali rests all their good swimmers, or even deliberately lets them win. Which is honestly a possibility but would be a crazy strategy call. Cali actually… Read more »

Anonymoose
1 year ago

if anyone wants to see jacoby sing and make music, i got u

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmzhkhq5aWU&ab_channel=JimandSusanPfeiffenberger

jamesjabc
1 year ago

A question that really needs to be discussed: what will this ISL final actually look like? A lot of the times from playoffs are 2 or 3 or 5 seconds slower than the winning times for events at the last season final. Are we expecting there to be a big number of records broken like the last few seasons? Or should we expect that maybe this will be a much slower final than usual?

At this stage, Haughey and Dahlia basically look like the only two major players who are swimming faster than this time last year. And there are a huge contingent that are swimming markedly slower.

EDIT: Should probably add Shymanovich to that too. Sjostrom has been hit… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by jamesjabc
Swimfan
Reply to  jamesjabc
1 year ago

*His name is Dolphinovich and he‘s swimming fly not breast.

Sub13
1 year ago

Please tell me you mention the fact that McKeon outsplit Dressel on the Mixed Medley Relay, 50.73 to 50.76 (obviously with McKeon swimming free and Dressel swimming fly).

I’m assuming you don’t, because if you did this comment section would be full of angry Dressel fans 😂😂.

While, as a Roar fan, it would be great if Dressel stayed at this level, I suspect he will still win a few events at the final. But seems doubtful he will be anywhere near his WR form from the first two finals.

Ledecky will go 3:55 in Paris
Reply to  Sub13
1 year ago

I don’t think it’s it’s about McKeon out splitting Dressel it’s more like 50.76 is kind of very slow

Tony
Reply to  Sub13
1 year ago

This is idiotic. It’s like saying,”Peaty got outsplit by this woman and that woman and that woman….” Yes, you acknowledged that different strokes were involved, but precisely because different strokes were involved, respectable authors wouldn’t bring it up — and they didn’t. The guy was at no meets for 2 months, got a tattoo and arrived on Friday. Give the greatest swimmer in the world and holder of 9 WRs a break; he’ll dazzle again soon.

Troyy
Reply to  Tony
1 year ago

Tony is triggered and no one is surprised.

Sub13
Reply to  Tony
1 year ago

A male flyer should never get outsplit by a female freestyler. Ever. There’s a full 2.5 seconds between the male fly record and women’s free record.

Comparing it to breast, where the men’s record is slower than every other women’s stroke, is a terrible comparison. A great men’s breast split would literally always be beaten by women in the same race. But even average men’s fly split should never be beaten by a woman.

I was making the point that Emma’s split was fantastic (8th fastest of all time) and Caeleb’s split was terrible. I predicted Dressel fans would have a cry about it and you seem to have proven me right.

Swimfan
Reply to  Sub13
1 year ago

Have you ever seen Kamminga and Scozolli in the free relay ?

Sub13
Reply to  Swimfan
1 year ago

They’re on the B relay to fill a space lol. They’re not swimming their best stroke that hold a world record in.

Ghost
1 year ago

My 2 cents for what it is worth;
Margo-Impressive weekend for Alabama for sure and kudos to her, her staff and the team. One meet or one season doesn’t make a good coach. But better than a really bad meet!

ASU-has SwimSwam ever asked what the objective or advantages of sitting out last year? I see none. The men had a great meet for sure and should be a player in March. The women were better before Bowman got there! I agree with Coleman that Nordin was swimming well enough last season to make the Olympic team but flopped.

UVA vs Stanford-Stanford was better than dual meets for sure. I just can’t doubt what Todd has done or… Read more »

Walter
Reply to  Ghost
1 year ago

Every girl in Tokyo won a medal? What do you mean? Phoebe Bacon, Ryan White, Katie Grimes may have something to say about that. Nonetheless, every woman on the US team but those three won at least one medal.

Admin
Reply to  Walter
1 year ago

I think Ghost is referring to “every UVA woman,” but I could be wrong.

Ghost
Reply to  Braden Keith
1 year ago

Correct

Sub13
Reply to  Walter
1 year ago

I think he means every woman from
Stanford won a medal, not every single American woman in Tokyo. Bacon, White and Grimes aren’t at Stanford.

Ghost
Reply to  Sub13
1 year ago

Stanford LTBs?!?! Therefore you should know I didn’t mean them.

Sub13
Reply to  Ghost
1 year ago

Yes sorry I meant UVA, not Stanford obviously haha

Coach
Reply to  Walter
1 year ago

White won a medal for the 400 medley relay prelims.

Say's Phoebe
Reply to  Walter
1 year ago

Alex Walsh was 2:11.83 (200 IM) in July 2018 at summer nationals with John Morse.

She was 2:11.24 at Pan Ams in the summer of 2019 with John.

She was 2:09.01 at US Open in December 2019 and 2:10.38 at Pro Series Knoxville in January 2020 (while swimming with John).

She was 2:08.65 in Tokyo.

It’s possible to make the case that Walsh could have swum better if she had taken a gap year.

Todd is a great coach and deserves a lot of credit for doing a nice job painting, but the house was built somewhere else.

MCH
Reply to  Say's Phoebe
1 year ago

⬆️⬆️ 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 ⬆️⬆️

Orange Fan
1 year ago

I thought that it was an oversight that you talked about Alabama and UVA, but didn’t mention the depth and dominance of the Lady Vols. As a Vols fan I’m fine with them flying under the radar, but will love it when you are suprised at their success this season!

Swimmer4life
1 year ago

I am surprised you failed to note
1) Dressel had jet lag (traveled right before)
2) He did win the 100 IM

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