Open Turn: Jack Conger could be looking at another Record Breaking Weekend

  75 Garrett McCaffrey | February 07th, 2013 | Club, College, Featured, News, Open Turn

Chris DeSantis joins Garrett McCaffrey on this week’s episode of Open Turn to geek out on what should be some fast high school swimming this weekend as well as championship season in college swimming. McCaffrey makes a bold guarantee about one of the high school swimming superstars who will be chasing records this weekend, while DeSantis starts false rumors that are sure to anger the Machine, Braden Keith. They also get side tracked on what the NCAA record board may look like if Michael Phelps would’ve swam in college. All that, plus some college championship season discussion.

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korn
3 years 6 months ago

I think SwimSwam, along with USA Swimming, is trying to promote Missy Franklin to the Michael Phelps pedastal. There are so many other great swimmers….and I think Ledecky will beat her this weekend. I also thought Allison was just as good as Missy this summer. Head on, Allison easily beat Missy in the 200 free this summer. EASILY.

coacherik
3 years 6 months ago

You are absolutely right! Had Missy Franklin broke an individual world record or won two individual events at the Olympics, we could say she had a better Games or is clearly a better swimmer. CLEARLY.

Anyway…

Couple of nerds geeking out. I swear if you weren’t separated by thousands of miles there definitely would have been a full-on bro hug to start off the segment. Sorry to hear about Braden, hope he lands on his feet..

Ben
3 years 6 months ago

didnt she get the 200 back WR?

coacherik
3 years 6 months ago

I figured typing *dripping with sarcasm* wouldn’t be necessary?

duckduckgoose
3 years 6 months ago

Missy’s got such a horrible attitude, maybe she can somehow get back in America’s good graces by participating in a swimathon to help Braden. Hold it at Cherry Creek HS hosted by its congenial swim parents…

Are you serious?
3 years 6 months ago

Are you for real? Although I can’t say that I know any of these girls personally, Missy, Allison, and Natalie are some of the most level-headed female olympians I’ve ever seen, just based off of interviews and the like. I don’t think it’s fair of you to say that Missy has a “horrible attitude” when the other 17 year old female “role models” are the Kardashians and Disney stars.

Reid
3 years 6 months ago

Wooooosh

Rafael
3 years 6 months ago

Missy likes Justin Bieber.. that´s all the bad attitude someone can have… such a shame..

3 years 6 months ago

you obviously don’t even know who Missy is !!! very sad attitude dude .

gosharks
3 years 6 months ago

Not sure why everyone is getting riled up over the sarcastic/humorous replies but not the original post by Korn regarding a SwimSwam conspiracy.

Jan
3 years 6 months ago

Super entertaining, Guys. Thanks!

Smith
3 years 6 months ago

Predictions:

Conger 44.9 and 4:13.5
Franklin 1:53.9 and 4:40.0
Ledecky 1:43.2 and 4:32.0

John Sampson
3 years 6 months ago

agreed with ledecky predictions…i think she is going to rock the blocks.

Larry
3 years 6 months ago

About a half year since Olympics, Ledecky and Franklin have probably gotten back in their groove by now

ArtVanDeLegh10
3 years 6 months ago

Missy is not a 200 IMer or 500 Freestyler. She is a better LCM swimmer. It’s hard to imagine her dropping from a 1:57 to a 1:53. I did some searching and found that her best 500 time is 4:42, but that was when she was 14. I guess we will see.

Chris DeSantis
3 years 6 months ago

Come on Art! Where’s the love?

I look at her being 4:42 at 14 and feel like it’s pretty clear she’s gotten a lot faster since that time and should crush it. As for the IM, short course yards is the perfect format to cover up a few flaws.

ArtVanDeLegh10
3 years 6 months ago

She was also 47.9 in the 100 at 14, so she hasn’t gotten much better. I might be wrong, which would be good because I’d like to see a 4:30something, but I wonder.

I agree that she can somewhat hide her breaststroke flaw in SCY, but she’s a better LCM freestyler and backstroker. So, she has a better breaststroke, but weaker free and back as I see it. As I said, we will see, but as good as she is, there’s a reason why she regularly gets beat in the IM by the top IMers. Also, there aren’t too many women that have been 1:53 or better.

coacherik
3 years 6 months ago

Accept that she went 1:55.8 at winter nats…

ArtVanDeLegh10
3 years 6 months ago

I forgot about that, maybe I’ll end up being wrong.

Spud
3 years 6 months ago

Altitude aint goinna help her.

walkman
3 years 6 months ago

it would be a little bit of a shame if conger can’t get the 100 back record because of meet timing. his best time is under the record, as is his 100 fly. this kid, under the right conditions, could have had 3 national high school records.

Spud
3 years 6 months ago

Ae you seriously whining about the order of events? The same order of events every other athlete has endured. If the 100bk record is that importantto him maybe he should skip all his other events including relays to save up for the back. Personnally I hope he gets both records, Katie gets one and Missy gets one, and then I hope they all get broken asap, even this year by somebody (don’t know who). But to whine about the order of events is rediculous, besides 20-30 minutes is plenty of time.

walkman
3 years 6 months ago

if he doesn’t go a best time, its fair to assume his 500 may have affected that.

Schefty
3 years 6 months ago

Why would that be a shame? Many high school swimmers have not had an opportunity to swim some events at high school meets because of the event limitations. Two years ago, David Nolan could have had a chance at the 100 fly national record considering he went 46.9 the next weekend. This year Ryan Murphy beat the 200 IM Independent national record by almost a full second at a meet three weeks later. He definitely could have gotten that at Florida states but sacrificed a second individual swim to break 3 relay records.
Jack Conger is actually lucky. He had a chance to swim the 100 fly last weekend mid-taper, which is better than only having an in-season invitational. As far as timing goes, he is also lucky to have a two day meet, something the boys at Florida states were not as fortunate to have.
I agree its disappointing that these superstars are only allowed 2 individual events at a state meet, but Jack Conger is far from the first individual to be screwed by the high school system.

Spud
3 years 6 months ago

SHEFTY – Thank you. MP could have taken down just a few too, chose not to.

3 years 6 months ago

It’s ok guys…they can’t fire me…I’m an owner…and run this mother.

coacherik
3 years 6 months ago

Right and your a people person too. Everyone is replaceable.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=nV7u1VBhWCE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DnV7u1VBhWCE

ArtVanDeLegh10
3 years 6 months ago

CoachErik,

Well-well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don’t have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can’t you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?

duckduckgoose
3 years 6 months ago

Maybe firing is too much, but your part in an obvious conspiracy to inflate Missy’s mediocre first Olympics is a serious offense. As punishment, you need to pump out an additional 5 articles per day between now and the 2016 Olympics. Maybe Missy can also redeem herself by then.

coacherik
3 years 6 months ago

Yeah, its been a while since we have read anything about Sir Michael Andrew…

One could easily get a few of those 5 extra articles needed out of his swimming prowess.

Chris DeSantis
3 years 6 months ago

Braden,

Please report to your performance evaluation, today at 1.

Joel Lin
3 years 6 months ago

1pm does not work. 1pm is time to work on those TPS reports.

bobo gigi
3 years 6 months ago

I don’t understand anything about that discussion.

bobo gigi
3 years 6 months ago

I don’t talk about the video. I talk about the debate about Missy. It’s weird.

coacherik
3 years 6 months ago
bobo gigi
3 years 6 months ago

Predictions.

Missy Franklin.
200 IM. 1.56
500 free. 4.44

Jack Conger.
500 free. 4.15
100 back. 45.80

Katie Ledecky.
200 free. 1.43
500 free. 4.34

Missy swims at high altitude and will not be tapered for this meet. About Jack Conger, I propose rational time predictions with on mind all the races he’ll swim with the relays and the short time between the races, but perhaps he isn’t just a very good swimmer, perhaps he’s a new genius and he’ll swim 4.10 and 44.80. We’ll see. Katie Ledecky was already in 1.45 last week so 1.43 is possible tomorrow. I’m cautious for her 500 free with the short time between the races but on her potential she has the right to swim under 4.30. It wouldn’t be surprising.

CraigH
3 years 6 months ago

Short time between races? The turnaround between the 200 free and 500 free is usually like an hour. That’s plenty of time to recover.

As for Missy, I’m almost positive she’ll be under 4:40. A 4:44 is way too pedestrian for a swimmer of her caliber. That’s the time it takes to win our local high school championship, and those swimmers certainly aren’t Oympians.

I hope Katie attacks the 500 with the same fearlessness with which she attacked the Olympic final.

ReeceStyle
3 years 6 months ago

I am shocked by your predictions! Usually they are more far fetched (though they usually turn out to be right). I remember when you said ledecky would go a 4:04 in her 400 at the end of the summer and I thought you were nuts! But then she did go a 4:04 IN HER FIRST 400 of the 800!!! So I trust your predictions.

I agree with you about missy, I don’t think she will throw up any “stunner” times just because she is in altitude and these are weird events for her, also if she worked her breastroke she would be queen of swimming. I say 1:56 and 4:42

I think jack will be faster in his 500, the kid is on a mission and the way he swam last weekend I have no doubts. I’m calling 4:12 and 45.2

I think people seriously doubt ledecky, based off the 200 she swam last weekend and her times from nationals (which is nearly identical: 1:44), I’m going to venture to say she wasn’t rested at either!! She is going to come very close to the records. And I don’t get how you guys can argue she has no speed, didn’t she take her 800 out in a 1:59 this summer?! If anything she has more speed than any distance swimmer I’ve seen and some might not even call her a distance swimmer, more like an all around freestyler!! I say 1:42 and 4:31

Pvk
3 years 6 months ago

Bobo Gigi- You seem like you know what your talking about when it comes to swimmming, so I trust your predictions. It would be absolutely WILD if Conger went 4:10 and 44.8!

Coach Joe
3 years 6 months ago

What’s this I hear about you having problems with your TPS reports?

kandy
3 years 6 months ago

I say Ledecky is closer to 4:30 and gives Hoff’s AR a run!

Klorn8d
3 years 6 months ago

Can I get an amen

Korn
3 years 6 months ago

We were close on predictions for Ledecky and although she beat Missy’s 2free record and went a lot faster in 500, Missy still deserves all headlines! I like Missy but there are other great swimmers out there who are stars too!

Wang
3 years 6 months ago

Anyone have a live results link to metros?

WHKIRCH
3 years 6 months ago

I’m actually going to the finals at Metro’s tomorrow, I can’t wait to see what Conger and Ledecky throw down.

WHKIRCH
3 years 6 months ago

My predictions:
Conger- 4:14.9/45.4
Ledecky- 1:43.6/4:33.7

John
3 years 6 months ago

Anyone have the link to metro state champ live results?

walkman
3 years 6 months ago

i believe they are only on meet mobile app

john
3 years 6 months ago

thanks

John Sampson
3 years 6 months ago

Is Janet hu also going to be at metros? And if so what events is she doing? She could break the records in 3 events possibly (100 fly/back/free)!!!!

walkman
3 years 6 months ago

she will be at VA states next weekend, but we don’t know what she will be swimming…

walkman
3 years 6 months ago

prelims for the 500 and the 400 free relay are going on tonight. ledecky went 4:33.14 in the 500, conger went 4:20

john
3 years 6 months ago

question is… how much more do they have left in the tank? its really nice that they get a day in between their swims and dont have to come back in 4 or 5 hours and swim it again.

walkman
3 years 6 months ago

very true. they do have prelims for all the other events tomorrow though

don
3 years 6 months ago

Wait, I’m confused. Don’t they swim prelims in the morning and finals at night? Isn’t that the way it is usually done?

Swimma
3 years 6 months ago

Only the 500 and 400 relay prelims were tonight, rest of the prelims tomorrow morning. Finals at night tomorrow

walkman
3 years 6 months ago

so that is a new national high school record for ledecky… in prelims

kandy
3 years 6 months ago

my prediction is looking good….she is after hoff’s record ….

hookem
3 years 6 months ago

20.99 FLY split for conger in prelims.

Pvk
3 years 6 months ago

You all are very conservative on Conger. I say he goes 4:12 in the 500 and 44.8 in the 100 bk.

hookem
3 years 6 months ago

19.9 fly split
42.8 leadoff of 4 free relay
4:10.9 500
44.8 100 back

Pvk
3 years 6 months ago

19.90 would be amazing- sheilds went 19.80 on the fly at NCAA’s last year!

3 years 6 months ago

20.13 was the fly split.

Pvk
3 years 6 months ago

You all are very conservative on Conger. I say he goes 4:12 and 44.80

Hook'em
3 years 6 months ago

4:13.8

korn
3 years 6 months ago

so who had the best meet of the three stars? Ledecky..not your favorite, Missy. My point is there are other GREAT swimmers in the USA and all the focus shouldn’t go to Missy. She is a great swimmers no doubt and I am taking anything away from her.

gosharks
3 years 6 months ago

And the rest of the world’s point is that there is much, much more to Missy Franklin than her swimming, which is why she gets more attention.

pvk
3 years 6 months ago

Amazing split. The college guys must be scared to death of Conger- Just imagine what he’ll be going by his senior year….

pvk
3 years 6 months ago

^20.13 fly split

pvk
3 years 6 months ago

^20.13 fly split

don
3 years 6 months ago

I don’t think anyone is “scared to death “of conger, anymore then they were scared of Nolan, Youngquist,or Murphy.Athletes at that level don’t think like that, only non athletes and parents think that way.

pvk
3 years 6 months ago

Yes, I suppose you’re correct on that one, but they still have good reason to be concerned about him and Murphy.

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