2023 Women’s NCAA Division I Champs: Day 4 Ups/Downs


For those unfamiliar with swimming terminology, the concept of “Ups” and “Downs” is a good way to track which teams performed best at prelims. In prelims, swimmers qualify for one of two finals heats: the top 8 finishers make the A final and places 9 through 16, the B final. In finals, swimmers are locked into their respective final, meaning a swimmer in the B heat (spots 9-16) can only place as high as 9th or as low as 16th, even if they put up the fastest or slowest time of any heat in the final.

With that in mind, we’ll be tracking “Ups” and “Downs” after each prelims session. “Up” refers to swimmers in the A final, and “Down” to swimmers in the B final.

Credit to Robert Gibbs for running the numbers.

Once again, Virginia has placed the most swimmers into finals. They will have ten final swims tonight, with seven in the A final.

Texas has the second most finals swims with six, including five in A finals. NC State and Stanford each have 3 A final swims and 2 B final swims tonight.

As far as scoring goes, Virginia has a huge lead for the national championship. In addition, Texas and Stanford look to have holds on second and third, although it is not out of the question for something to shift (such as a relay DQ).

Based on the data, the biggest competition looks to be for fourth place as Louisville and NC State are only separated by 0.5 points. Diving points are not included in this yet, and neither are the seed times for the 400 free relay. Louisville is seeded third and NC State is seeded fourth in the 400 free relay, so the battle may come down to the final relay there.


|All|200 Back|100 Free|200 Breast|200 Fly|Platform Diving
NC State|3/2|2/0|1/0|0/1|0/1|0/0|
Ohio State|1/1|0/0|1/1|0/0|0/0|0/0|
Arizona State|1/0|0/0|0/0|0/0|1/0|0/0|
Texas A&M|0/1|0/0|0/1|0/0|0/0|0/0|
Florida St|0/1|0/0|0/0|0/0|0/1|0/0|

Scored Prelims

Scored Prelims + Actual Scored Prelims
Women Women
1. UVA: 497.5 1. UVA: 123.0
2. Texas: 357.5 2. Texas: 85.0
3. Stanford: 294.0 3. Stanford: 55.0
4. Louisville: 240.5 4. NC State: 50.0
5. NC State: 240.0 5. Louisville: 49.0
6. Ohio State: 188.0 6. Tennessee: 35.0
7. Tennessee: 170.0 7. Indiana: 26.0
8. Indiana: 147.0 8. California: 24.0
9. Florida: 147.0 9. Duke: 20.0
10. UNC: 139.0 10. Ohio State: 18.0
11. California: 129.0 11. Wisconsin: 17.0
12. USC: 102.0 12. LSU: 16.0
13. LSU: 95.0 13. USC: 16.0
14. Alabama: 90.0 14. Alabama: 15.0
15. Wisconsin: 84.0 15. UNC: 14.0
16. Georgia: 78.5 16. Arizona State: 14.0
17. Kentucky: 51.0 17. Hawaii: 11.0
18. Duke: 40.0 18. Kentucky: 9.0
19. Minnesota: 37.0 19. Georgia: 8.0
20. Miami (FL): 36.0 20. Florida St: 5.0
21. Arizona: 32.0 21. Akron: 4.0
22. Michigan: 29.0 22. Texas A&M: 3.0
23. VT: 26.0 23. VT: 1.0
24. South Carolina: 25.0 24. Florida: 1.0
25. Texas A&M: 25.0 25. Northwestern: 1.0
26. Arizona State: 18.0
27. Northwestern: 14.0
28. Auburn: 13.0
29. Arkansas: 12.0
30. Florida St: 12.0
31. Hawaii: 11.0
32. Miami (Ohio): 9.0
33. Purdue: 7.0
34. UCLA: 6.0
35. Akron: 5.0
36. Utah: 2.0
37. FIU: 1.0


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1 day ago

ACC dominating women’s swimming

Jim Woods
1 day ago

Could you get your ups / downs chart for individual teams to work properly?

1 day ago

Updated with Diving:

UVA 7/3
TEX 6/2
LOU 4/1
STA 3/2
NCS 3/2
OSU 1/1

Reply to  CavaDore
1 day ago

Also w/ mile (only as current projected mile seeding though)

UVA 7/4
TEX 7/2
LOU 4/1
STA 3/3
NCS 3/2
OSU 1/1

2 days ago

Louisville got an A-finalist in the platform according to live results which should give them a bit more cushion

Reply to  swimswamswum
2 days ago

That’ll probably do it unless we have some crazy swims tonight

Reply to  Breezeway
1 day ago

Agreed but it’s close enough that some points from the mile for NC State and movement in the finals could swing for NC State.

Say's Phoebe
Reply to  Breezeway
1 day ago

AA can get a few more points in the 2fly, but she’s locked in the B heat.
100 free and 200 Bk are really stacked, realistically there is very little opportunity for State to move up.
Awesome swim for MacCausland to make the B heat. Again, though, it doesn’t look like there is a lot of space to move forward.

Suzy Q
2 days ago

i saw UVA’s 7/3 at first and i was like “there’s NO way uva got 7 ppl in the 2 back”

Reply to  Suzy Q
2 days ago

maybe the 2 breast

Alice Wright Belknap
2 days ago

Louisville Ladies are looking HAPPY !!!!!!
Go Lady Cardinals, we love you and are cheering for you all the way to the wall, hit it hard and make me proud !!!

2 days ago

Anyone know where we can get a heat sheet including the first 5 of the 6 heats of 1650?

ACC fan
Reply to  dscott
1 day ago

Meet mobile

2 days ago

The University of Virginia will officially wrap it up prior to the relay.

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