Rio Police Confirm Bathroom Vandalism, Guns Were Drawn On Swimmers

A few more updates to the ongoing story involving U.S. swimmers Ryan Lochte, Jimmy Feigen, Jack Conger and Gunnar Bentz and security guards in Rio de Janeiro:

The head of the local civil police, Fernando Veloso, spoke to the press today, confirming that there was no robbery, but was an incident at a gas station involving the four.

Veloso says police are determining how each of the four was involved in the incident before deciding whether to press charges. In a rough translation of the original Portuguese:

“In theory, they can come to account for false reporting of crime and damage to property,” said the head of the Civil Police. “Rio saw the name of the city stained by this fantasy version. It would be noble and worthy for them to apologize. For now, no.”

Meanwhile NBCOlympics.com reports that security guards did indeed draw their weapons in dealing with the swimmers. That sticking point of Lochte’s original story – that the group was robbed at gunpoint – has mostly been unclear so far today, with some news outlets reporting that the security guards were armed but did not draw weapons, and others reporting that the guards did draw their sidearms. This NBCOlympics report claims the latter.

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Beachbumj343

Being drunk and stupid is one thing but why lie about something and bring attention to yourselves?

Scott Morgan

Well, peeing on someone’s property is also vandalism, as well as disgusting. Kicking down a door is property damage. But yes, trying to get away it by making public mistruths seems dim, as well as dishonorable.

Swammer

The video I watched didn’t show either of these things happening

Jay Jay

Saint Thomas should be your nickname. Brazilian judge handles that much better “it is a small crime. Nothing will happen. Itis just that that they added to the difficulties of a country which does not need that.

Jay Jay

did you ask Lochte for a videoof the robbery when he initially complained about a robbery while he came back with his phone and wallet?

SoOcLA

He never said his phone was taken. Only the wallet. Clearly if he had that, same end. But no need to hyperbole on the other side the argument either.

Attila the Hunt

No one did any hyperboles but Lochte.
Had he kept his mouth shut, this would have been a non-event.
But instead of doing the honorable thing of clarifying the “mistake” “communication” between him and his mum, he went on national and international media about some robbers cocking gun on his head and he was like “yeah, whateves…” “yeah, the other three guys were on the ground” etc

25METER_IM

No. You need to watch the video backwards.

Gary P

Peeing in a bathroom is vandalism? Wow, I’ve been a vandal all my life.

coacherik

On, not just in, but on as in all over the bathroom. I believe that is what is being alleged.

Loosers

Give us your address. Good to know people can come over to your house and pee on your walls. Doesn’t seem to bother you.

SoOcLA

I think it isn’t too much of a stretch to presume, however, that at a gas station in Rio (honestly, for that matter, a gas station most anywhere in the world) that it would be difficult to distinguish the pee on the wall they might have left from the pee on the wall that was there before they got there.

bossanova

Of course, if you pull a gun on someone after they pee on your wall, you’re looking at some charges… unless that is considered castle doctrine or “standing your ground.” Don’t ever take our American freedoms for granted people!

IronSaint

Sure! So long as I can pull a gun on you and take your wallet afterwards.

Attila the Hunt

breaking bathroom door and mirrors is not vandalism?

Can I do that in your house?

Dan

Is there a different video out there? I watched 8 minute video that appears to show their full time at the gas station, and there is nothing remotely resembling vandalism or urination.

While Lochte changed his story, so did the Rio police. They initially said no guns were drawn. Now they were. The truth is somewhere between what we are being told.

kimberlee SYLVESTER

Totally Agree. Although Vandalism of the door may have occurred, it appears as though they were being escorted by the employees, back into their taxi. Is the robber, or security guard that approaches the driver of the Taxi weilding a gun? What is in his hands?

2Fat4Speed

It has been so weird to turn on CNN and see gas station security footage of four swimmers I know. To see Jack Conger and Gunnar Bentz crowed by reporters is surreal. The fact that I have co-workers talking about Jimmy Feigen around the break room is strange.

25METER_IM

It was so odd. The boss today knew about Lochte, and that the other 3 were relay-only swimmers.

david

Does Brazil and America have an extradition treaty ?

anonymous

I read that you can only be extradited for felony charges not misdemeanor charges.

david

Filing A False Police Report is a felony

Emanuele

Do you really think that Brazil cares about something so stupid?
Probably they will pay a fees a that’s all (like in every country on earth).

swamswam

A bailout fee for the catastrophic economic failure this Olympic games has been for the city of Rio.

Dear Ryan Lochte and Co,
Please make the check out to the city of Rio in the amount of $4,000,000,000 for peeing on our gas station.

Sincerely,
Rio

SoOcLA

I think Rio has made it pretty clear that what they are looking for is an apology.

Matteo

Was a police report filed? My understanding is that Lochte’s reports on this matter were through various media.

Attila the Hunt

Police investigation started when Lochte told the robbery stories to international media, embarrassing Rio and IOC.
By Lochte’s own account, he was already interviewed by the police, so this means official crime investigation was already initiated.

Schwimfanny

I don’t think they actually filed a police report though?

Rafael

There is no need for a formal filing. after the case is public it is already unter the line that must be investigated.

hmmm

there was no police report filed

Peter B

No need to.

Attila the Hunt

Police crime investigation does not necessarily need anyone to file a report if there is already strong indication that a crime has happened.

kimberlee SYLVESTER

Really? is it a false statement when they were detained from leaving, forced to get out of the car, guns pointed at them, and then the security guards helped themselves to the swimmers wallets to take money for the damages. The swimmers may have offered, but when the guard takes it upon himself to extract the money from your belonging, thats considered robbery, at least in the U.S it is.

Attila the Hunt

This is your story… you can stick with it, but it’s not what has happened on all accounts.

Keystawong

Yes, but chances are neither country will want to hurt their relationship with one another over this. So I doubt Brazil will push anything. Chances are Lochte is going to have to spend a whole lot of money on attorney’s fees to ever be able to go back to Brazil again.

Jay Jay

the brazilian judge said that nothing willhappen. Why do americans have to be such drama queens? “oh I have been robbed””oh they are going to prison the poor guys” living in an alternative universe.

coacherik

The rest of us “Americans” should not be lumped into the same category as Mr. Lochte..

Jay Jay

actually I did the kind of generalisation that irks me. my mistake.

Gary P

Can we extradite the SOB to the US that pulled a gun on our 4 athletes, supposedly over a broken door latch and soap dispenser?

Jay Jay

What he did was compliant with Brazilian law and maybe even the US one (at least for some states).

Peter B

You can’t. He is saying (and witnesses are vouching for him) that he pulled the gun AFTER the 4 swimmer went after him. I personally do not believe this to be the case. But what I believe or not is irrelevant. When you put together his word plus the testimony of other people at the gas station, he has a strong case.
Four guys coming to you makes pulling a gun justifiable per Brazilian law.

kimberlee SYLVESTER

Those four athletes were most likely defending one of their own, not attacking the guard as the Brazillian news likes to claim. Brandishing a Gun and pointing it at the athletes is criminal, over a broken latch and a soap dispenser. OMG!

Attila the Hunt

So in USA, anyone can come to a private property and damage them and nothing will happen?

Seriously?

Victor P

I can tell you that if a police officer was caught on video pulling a gun on foreign nationals for what appears to be very minor “vandalism” and certainly no aggressive behavior (there is absolutely NO aggressive behavior on that video nor the subsequent videos posted by ABC), if our officers did that there would be HELL to pay and it would be covered INCESSANTLY in the media with the officers being prejudged as being “racist” and using “brutality”. Make NO mistake about it. Look at the riots that occurred in Baltimore – ALL of the officers who were vociferously denounced (of all colors of the spectrum – white, Hispanic, Black, male and female) – have been acquitted after lack… Read more »

Victor P

Curious that absolutely NONE of that is corroborated by video. None of the aggression at any point. However, they get back to the taxi and the “security” guard is apparently directed over to the taxi, when he approaches he seems to be pointing something at the taxi driver (I don’t think it’s a gun, but I can’t tell – it’s not a finger) and the taxi driver remains stationary for 2.5 minutes (redacted from the video – why?) before they’re all directed to come out of the vehicle with Lochte clearly holding up his hands (like he said he did!). Then they show time 6:14:28 (so 2 more minutes are redacted!) and several of the guys sit down, raising their… Read more »

kimberlee SYLVESTER

AMEN!

Just Another Opinion

Extradite him to most states in the Union and he’d get a medal. Not Kalifornia or New York, but most of the other ones.

As an American, you’re most angry at the Brazilians involved in this incident? Unbelievable. Representing the USA doesn’t give you license to be an A-hole… in fact, in obligates you to be on your best behavior. I’d prefer to see USA Swimming hand down suspensions.

Brute Bradford

Where is the evidence of destruction of property or vandalism of any kind? It is not in any video released heretofore, and is not in any sworn statement, and there are no pictures whatsoever of any damage. The entire factual predicate for any security guard or law enforcement to have detained and drawn down on the four swimmers is absent–egregiously so.

anonymous

There are several gas station attendants at the bathroom door and even walking out of the bathroom after the men so several witnesses

Victor P

Or several individuals involved in a joint shakedown scam.

Jim C

What legitimate gas station would hire several gas station attendants for that time of day?

Jay Jay

a successful one (on a highway or other high traffic road)

HulkSwim

during a 2 week party

anonymous

On video it looked busy.

Peter B

Jim C, with all due respect, your message just shows you understand nothing about Rio. There is no self service in Rio.

swimdoc

Just self-policing.

Victor P

It still wouldn’t account for all those bodies walking around. Basic math.

Victor P

You also fail to account for the fact that theft is a thriving industry in Rio. I have never heard of so many accounts of athletes getting robbed abroad at International events like this.

Attila the Hunt

In many other countries, due to cheap labor, gas stations employ many attendants to fill in the gas so they buyers don’t have to do it themselves.

I doubt you’ve been to many developing countries, so please stop projecting US situation to a foreign country.

Victor P

“Cheap labor” is all relative. What’s “cheap labor” to you isn’t so much so to the locals. I’ve lived in 3 nations and visited various more. Stop trying to play the very circumstantial “you don’t know enough” card and stick to the facts.

Jim C

You don’t believe Lochte, but you do believe the attendants?

Jay Jay

I think the reaction of some is more of a reaction towards all the abuse hurled towards Brazil when they dared arrest the swimmers. Instead of letting justice follow its course, all kind of names were used to describe Brazilians. never seen such xenophobia on this website.

Attila the Hunt

I don’t believe Lochte because he has been proven of lying.

HulkSwim

I gotta be honest, I’m just super annoyed they haven’t sent you and Victor P a copy of the full video and all transcripts of interviews for review.

Heck- why weren’t you two flown down to Rio to sit in on the interviews?

This whole mess stinks, their lack of inclusion of Lochte fan-boys seems like they are hiding something.

Brute Bradford

That’s not fair. I’m not a big Lochte fan, but if the guy is going to be accused of criminal vandalism and mischief, and Brazil claims to have evidence of that, and claims that evidence is present in a video, and that video does not show that evidence, and there is no other evidence released to support the charge, then I’m upset as someone who seeks truth and justice. And do should you be. And so should Brazilians be, because they have to live in a country with very weak rule of law. And we’re all one bad encounter away from being destroyed on social media.

Jay Jay

as someone who seeks truth and justice why don’t you expand this energy helping guys who are sent to the death row on very flimsy evidence? You are really blowing this thing out of proportions. Keep some perspective before jumping on the high horse. This kind of thing happens everyday everywhere, just not with celebrities considered like gods by some.

Cheatinvlad

Free Steven Avery!

Brute Bradford

As Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said, “injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere.” That applies to unjustly charged and convicted people wherever they might be. The injustice before us right now on SwimSwam is the Lochte case; thus, we’re discussing the merits and the justice of this case.

Emanuele

You are really quote MLK for the stupidiest thing which happen on earth? 4 drunk guys who doing whatever they want in a foreign country and then lie on that is an injustice? You have not sense of proportion.

Brute Bradford

I was accused of being insensitive to injustice, and simply defending myself by indicating that all injustice is offensive. And it’s offensive in proportion to the degree of injustice. There’s no argument. I believe there is injustice here and it is offensive. That’s all.

Victor P

Listen, dimwit (and I’m being nice), if it was your life, your reputation, your livelihood, you wouldn’t be so freakin flippant about it. No skin off your back, so eff him right?!

Captain Ahab

You need anger management

Attila the Hunt

Lochte ruined his own reputation. No one did it for him.
Not only that, he betrayed his teammates, and fled and left them behind.

swimdoc

I don’t know. Ask Attila the Hunt. He’s the one who’s in the know.

About Jared Anderson

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Jared Anderson just can’t stay away from the pool. A competitive career of almost two decades wasn’t enough for this Minnesotan, who continues to get his daily chlorine fix. A lifelong lover of writing, Jared now combines the two passions as Senior Reporter for SwimSwam.com, covering swimming at every level. He’s an …

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