Rescoring 2022 and 2023 Division I NCAA Women’s Champs With An Added ‘C’ Final

Every Power 5 swimming conference championship meet has an A, B, and C final, yet the NCAA Championships do not. We decided to do the math to see if the addition of a ‘C’ final would impact the final team rankings.

The addition of the C final changes the scoring dramatically, as individual scoring begins at 30 points instead of 20, and relays begin at 60 points instead of 40.

Here are our findings for the top 25 teams:


2022 Place With C Final 2022 Score with C final 2022 Actual Team and Score
Virginia 994.5 Virginia – 551.5
Texas 774 Texas – 406
Stanford 764.5 Stanford – 399.5
NC State 557 Alabama – 288
Alabama 548 NC State – 279
Louisville 458.5 Louisville – 196.5
California 407 Michigan – 184.5
Michigan 378.5 California – 180
Ohio St 368 Ohio St – 165
Tennessee 366 Tennessee – 127
Kentucky 341.5 Indiana – 116
Indiana 326 Kentucky – 115.5
Georgia 316 Florida – 115
UNC 296 UNC – 109
Florida 292 Georgia – 104.5
Southern California 262.5 Southern California – 102
Wisconsin 260 Wisconsin – 100
Northwestern 204.5 Northwestern – 73
Virginia Tech 165 Arizona – 52.5
Arizona 131 Penn – 44.5
Minnesota 125 Minnesota – 43
Missouri 120 Miami (Florida) – 41.5
Arizona St 107 Virginia Tech – 37
Texas A&M 85 Duke – 36
Duke 85 Missouri – 34

As seen in the 2022 data, the top 10 teams stay the same with the exception of the fact that NC State and Alabama switch places by 1, with the same going for Cal and Michigan. Some of the largest benefits are seen from Missouri and Virginia Tech moving up 4 spots each.


2023 Place With C Final 2023 Score with C final 2023 Actual Team 2023 Actual Score
Virginia 1013 UVA 541.5
Texas 779.5 Texas 414.5
Stanford 664.5 Stanford 333
Louisville 591 Louisville 288
NC State 543 NC State 263
Ohio St 494 Ohio State 223
Indiana 469.5 Indiana 219
Tennessee 459 Tennessee 214
Florida 403 Florida 179
UNC 365 UNC 152
California 332 California 137
Southern California 304 USC 125
Georgia 275 LSU 112
Alabama 254.5 Alabama 111
Wisconsin 236 Wisconsin 100
LSU 196 Georgia 90.5
Texas A&M 165 Minnesota 53
Kentucky 165 Arizona 52
Michigan 144 Kentucky 49
Duke 142 VT 46
Northwestern 138 Duke 42
Virginia Tech 135.5 Miami (FL) 36
Auburn 126 Michigan 33
Minnesota 107 Purdue 32
Arizona 105 Texas A&M 26

Just as seen with the 2022 data, the 2023 addition of the C final does not cause any huge changes. In fact, the 2023 change has no effect on the final team standings for any of the top 12 teams.

Texas A&M benefits greatly from the addition of the C final as they would move up from 25th to 17th place.

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2 months ago

Reduce scoring to 1 Final or Top 8 for relays, get rid of diving, reduce overall Team sizes at NCAA and make it truly competitive.

IU Swammer
Reply to  MarshFAN
2 months ago


2 months ago

I don’t think it would change the scores places, but 1st place is normally 32 / 64 points and not 30/60 when scoring Top 24.
The Top 8 scoring would be 32, 28, 27, 26, 25, 24, 23, 22 and then the scores would be the same as they are now, 20, 17, 16……..

Coach ID
2 months ago

Point 1- Money is already being allocated for athletes to travel to NCAAs. Opportunity, participation, and greater achievement is there with no additional costs.

Point 2- how many more schools score 1 point rather than 0 points? Feel like this is a better reason than who moves up and down the rankings. Want to see this over 3-5 years.

2 months ago

How would it work if the 1,000 was an event? It’s not nearly a fair way to truly do it, but maybe double the 1,650 scores and see how that lands?

I will forever stand on the hill that says D2 does NCAA Championships the best way. 4.5 days. Ends every night with a relay (800FR is on the Day 0.5 by itself). 1000Fr as an event. 7 total swims (max of 4 individual events). Would be interesting to see D1 go that route and how it would play out ultimately. More strategy there in terms of 4th individual event vs 4th relay swim, too.

IU Swammer
2 months ago

It makes some sense to me that scoring a third heat would mean more teams score, and maybe more athletic departments give more money to swimming because they scored. I also think we’d see fewer prelims scratches and a little more strategy on which events to have an individual swim.

The biggest impact would be on the pride and sense of accomplishment for individuals who would get another swim.

I’d be fine with the change, but I’m not all-in on it.

Swimmin in the South
2 months ago

Nice pic. Shout out to the glory days with Ozzie and James.

2 months ago

Track only scores one heat!

IU Swammer
Reply to  Diehard
2 months ago

I think that’s silly, but I know very little about track.

Reply to  IU Swammer
2 months ago

Maybe T&F thinks having a B or C heat is silly?

IU Swammer
Reply to  Diehard
2 months ago

Maybe. Don’t know. Don’t care.

Reply to  Diehard
2 months ago

I don’t think NCAA championship-level track athletes are as “versatile” as swimmers. I can imagine most don’t compete in more than two individual events (i.e. 100/200m, 1600/3200, etc..), not including relays. I suppose some sprinters could compete in field events, but I don’t think it is very common.

Also, I think track has 9 lanes versus swimming’s 8. Could be wrong though.

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Anya has been with SwimSwam since June 2021 as both a writer and social media coordinator. She was in attendance at the 2022 and 2023 Women's NCAA Championships writing and doing social media for SwimSwam. Currently, Anya is pursuing her B.A. in Economics and a minor in Government & Law at …

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