Feigen; Schmitt Make Big Statements in 100 Free On Night 1 in Austin

  61 Braden Keith | June 01st, 2012 | Club, Featured, National, News

Night one at the 2012 Longhorn Aquatics Elite Invite was blazing, with a slew of best-times, world-wide top-10 times, and all-around fast swimming. It’s three-weeks out from the Olympic Trials, and it looked every bit of that in Austin on Friday night.

Women’s 100 Free

Out of the mountains of Colorado and into the Austin hill country, North Baltimore’s Allison Schmitt just put the nation on notice – she’s not just a middle-distance freestyler. After putting up a 53.94 on night 1 of the Elite Invite, she might prove to be that fourth piece that the Americans needed to challenge the Dutch in the 400 free relay.

Coming back from a few weeks of altitude training, that’s a lifetime best for her by over half-a-second. It also puts her 9th in the world this year, and makes her the fastest American. Since last summer’s World Championships, she’s been really going after this event more-and-more, and she’s really found herself in the position to be a big difference-maker for the American relays.

She bettered another Georgia Bulldog who had an outstanding time – Megan Romano, who was 2nd in 54.16. That’s a major best-time for her as well. Though she’s often very good in-season, this swim shows that in the past year she’s taken her speed to a whole new level: she’s now the third-fastest American this year. The 200 free on Saturday should come with a lot of anticipation.

That left Missy Franklin in 3rd in 54.73. That time holds her pace from what we saw her last time out in Indianapolis, and shows that even as the Olympic pressure ratchets up, she’s holding similar times.

Amanda Weir was 4th in 54.97, followed by Shannon Vreeland in 55.47 and First Colony 15-year old Simone Manuel in 55.97.

Men’s 100 Free

Not to be outdone by the womens’ speed Texas swimmer Jimmy Feigen was able to drop a chunk off of a great prelims time to swim a 48.63 in the men’s 100. That’s by-far the best he’s been in textile, and is almost as good as he was in polyurethane in 2009 – still three weeks out from Trials. He was due for a breakout year, I think everyone has seen it coming, but he now deserves to be in the conversation for that 4th spot on the American free relay as they search for a new spark to chase down the Australians.

Though Michael Phelps probably wasn’t expecting much coming down from the Springs at this meet, I don’t think he’ll be jumping-for-joy at his 49.05 silver medal. Then again, it’s about what he did at this same pool in January, so not much disappointment there either. He’s still got some work to do before trials though.

Trinidad & Tobago swimmer George Bovell was the only other swimmer under 50-seconds; he swam a 49.84 to take the bronze.

Garrett Weber-Gale placed 6th in 50.61, and Dax Hill was 7th in 50.77.

Notably, winning the B-Final, Texas sophomore-to-be Clay Youngquist in 50.56. That’s faster than he’s ever been outside of the 2010 Jr. Pan Pac Championships, which is still the best long course meet of his career. He’s another swimmer due for a big meet at trials.

Women’s 200 Breast

For the second-straight meet, Texas’ Laura Sogar looked like Laura Sogar of 2008, when she was one of the biggest prospects in the country. She lowered her collegiate-best again with a 2:27.76, a half-second drop from two weeks ago. It will be exciting to see where her times go at Trials.

Recent North Baltimore transfer Annie Zhu was 2nd in 2:30.16. She’s looked very good since making the move from Asphalt Green, and has consistently been going 2:29’s and 2:30’s in 2012. We’ll have to see what happens with her taper, as she’s been on the verge of best-times all year long. She bettered her future Georgia teammate Melanie Margalis, who was 3rd in 2:33.69.

Another Longhorn swimming very well is Catherine Wagner. She swam her best time of the year in 2:35.02 for 4th.

Men’s 200 Breast

Brendan Hansen was better in finals than he was in prelims, with a 2:13.54 to run away with the men’s 200 breast title. Jack Brown took 2nd in 2:16.72, and local Nitro swimmer Will Licon was 3rd in 2:16.79

Georgia swimmer Nic Fink was only 4th, but his 2:16.92 shows the big improvements he made in his first year in Georgia. He’s been a great short course swimmer to this point of his career, but that’s a second-and-a-half drop for him in long course.

Former NCAA Champion Eric Friedland was 5th in 2:17.43, and North Baltimore Chase Kalisz was 6th in 2:17.85 – he was actually slower than prelims surprisingly, and the North Baltimore men didn’t start this meet with the same positive results from their training at the Olympic Training Center as Allison Schmitt did, though they would pick things up later in the session.

Women’s 400 Free

We indulged during Mexican Trials in a lengthy discussion of the impressive record of badly-injured Texas A&M swimmers making brilliant returns, the legend continues with Sarah Henry. After being out of the water for a huge chunk of 2011 with another ACL injury, she came back in this meet and won this 400 free in 4:09.16 – which is the best time of her career by three seconds. That was good enough for a win in an Allison Schmittless race, as the only swimmer better than 4:10.

Georgia’s Amber McDermott took 2nd in 4:10.40; she hung right with Henry for the first 300 meters of this race, but Henry put up a great closing lap to pull away. McDermott’s Georgia training partner Wendy Trott was 3rd in 4:12.55 (her back-half was better than her first 200 meters). Gillian Ryan was slower than prelims for 4th in 4:14.75.

Missy Franklin, swimming out of the B-Final, put up a 4:13.36 – a lifetime best for her.

Men’s 400 Free

The men’s 400 free final was a very stratified result, with Michigan-affiliated swimmers taking the top three spots, and then Texas Longhorns completing the rest of the A-Final with the 4th-8th finish positions.

The win went to the postgrad Matt Patton in 3:51.07. Ryan Feeley was 2nd in 3:52.14. That swim for Feeley was successful because:

  1. It was a second-place finish against a good field
  2. It was the fastest he’s ever been in-season
  3. Because he perfectly executed a negative-split, going about half-a-second faster on the back 200 meters.

Connor Jaeger took 3rd in 3:52.94.

The newcomer of the Texas distance group Jake Ritter continued to position himself as a breakout star of this summer’s trials with a 3:54.75 for 4th. That’s another full second off of his best time, which makes six-seconds dropped in the last two meets. Michael McBroom was 5th in 3:55.21.

Women’s 100 Fly

Texas’ Kathleen Hersey looked as good as the rest of her fellow Longhorn Aquatics swimmers have in this meet, and took the win in the 100 fly in 58.79. That’s her best time of 2012 by more than a second.

Future Cal Bear Kelly Naze, who currently trains with the Denver Hilltoppers program, was 2nd in 1:00.30, and another Texas swimmer Ellen Lobb took 3rd in 1:00.88 – a lifetime best for her.

Men’s 100 Fly

Michael Phelps looked much better in this meet-ending 100 fly than he did in the 100 free earlier, with a 52.02 for the win. That’s a season-best for him (though he didn’t swim the race in Columbus, where he looked so good in his other races). That puts him in the top 10 in the world this year, though Tyler Clary has still been faster among Americans.

His training partner Chris Brady also looked great with a 53.25, which is right what he went in Columbus (again where the North Baltimore crew was fairly rested).

China’s Wu Peng took 3rd in 53.67, and Texas’ Neil Caskey was 4th in 53.77 – his best time ever in textile.

Mark Dylla (54.62) and Dan Madwed (54.80) finished 6th and 7th in the A-Final.

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john26
4 years 2 months ago

Feigen was 49.24 exactly 2 weeks ago, judging from today, that was clearly untapered. He’s 48.63 with 3 weeks to go…

I don’t know very much about Feigen’s taper, but that looks like he’s either going to end up in the 47s, or in disaster. He is splitting his races like a tapered swimmer does— going out in a 22.9, which I’m also not sure how to make of this (ie. is he going to go out in 22.5 when he’s tapered?). The natural impression I got from this is that he’s going to be significantly faster than the 22.0 he was at Nationals last year in a few days.

That said, I’m very excited about the prospect about what he can do. I’m also kind of worried. Although, the US does need Feigen to be swimming this fast at this point in order to be on the right path to defending their Olympic title.

aswimfan
4 years 2 months ago

The US is already looking good with Phelps – Feigen – Berens – Adrian

Feigen will fight it out with Berens to get the second individual 100 free spot behind Adrian, and I think the younger swimmer will take it.

Neptune
4 years 2 months ago

Would not think Feigen is doing much different then the rest of the Texas guys. They all seemed a touch better than two weeks ago. Feigen just a bit more. It’s exciting to see someone like that coming into his own.

John Sampson
4 years 2 months ago

Allison Schmitt is a beast. She completely tossed herself into the relay mix. The Dutch should be a little scared, and Megan romano’s time is equally impressive. She is also in the relay mix, and IMO she is better on relays, which is just what the US needs. So who will make it? Franklin, vollmer and coughlin have separated from everyone, Allison now too, but then you got Neal, Romano, hardy, and weir, it’s going to be incredibly hard to just get in the final at trials!!

It’s too bad Allison didnt do the 400, but the 200 will be an awesome race with Missy, Romano and Schmitt!! What if Schmitt breaks the American record?? 😀 fingers crossed

john26
4 years 2 months ago

I think on paper, the US has looked better on paper than the Dutch.
Last year, they had Kromowidjojo and Heemskerk swimming fast, but from memory the other swimmers were not under 54.5. Going in, I thought the US was going to win… I wasn’t really sure what the hype about the Dutch relay was all about

You could say the same about this year. The US has 7 swimmers 54.5 or faster already. The Dutch, we know, has Krowo swimming very fast, Velduis and Heemskerk swimming well with Dekker at 54.4. This team, as a whole, is swimming much better than last year. So I still say beware. It could take a 332 to win this event.

cupofjoe
4 years 2 months ago

Don’t forget about Lochte on the men’s 4 x 100. If it comes down to a coach’s decision he will have the edge. My guess is he will swim it in the prelims and maybe semi’s at Trials to put up a good time. If it is fast enough he may not have to swim it in the prelims in London. That’s how Phelps got on the relay in China as you all remember. My pick for London is Phelps-Lochte-Feigan-Adrian. Maybe Berens, Lezak, Greevers or Cullen Jones could slip into the fourth spot. Phelps, Adrian and maybe Lochte may not have to swim prelims. That would mean all the others will battle it out for one spot in the prelims. I also wouldn’t totally count out Ervin. It’s nice to have so many options. the Aussies and Frogs don’t have that kind of depth.

junker23
4 years 2 months ago

I don’t think Jones or Ervin have much of a shot at that relay, unless they have huge tapers. I’d say both of them have a better shot of being in the top 2 in the 50 than they do being top 6 in the 100.

joeb
4 years 2 months ago

i agree…ervin better shot at the 50 than the 100….

john26
4 years 2 months ago

The Aussies have 6 men under 48.6… But that sort of depth isn’t whats going to win them the relay. On paper Aussies look as if they could put together a team that could potentially come close to that ridiculous WR.

IMO This swim today puts Feigen has my top pick to join Phelps and Adrian on the relay (and Adrian on the individual). I think its going to take at least a 48.1 to get that spot over WeberGale and Berens, who I suspect are the only real foreseeable threat for that honor. As good as the rest… Any slower and I think the US may be in danger. Lezak, Grevers, Walters, Tarwater, Robison… whoever else will, in some combination, round out the relay squad but, I strongly doubt their abilty to get under about 48.4, with most of them delivering a 48high.

REmember in 08 it took a 48.8 to make top 6!!

Freebee
4 years 2 months ago

so much certainty and so much doubt . . . don’t ever count out USA swimming (especially the relays)

aswimfan
4 years 2 months ago

Unless Lochte swam 48 flat in the trials, I don’t think he should be automatically picked to swim in the relay final in London.

Remember that in 2008 Omaha, Phelps swam 47.92 in the prelims which was only bettered by Lezak and GWG.

If Lochte only posts 4th-6th fastest 100 free in Omaha, and if he wants to swim the 4×100 free, then he should swim the relay prelims to see if he’s good enough, because frankly, I don’t think the US wants a repeat of 2004 Athens Ian Crocker debacle.

Also, I’m not quite sure what you mean by “the aussies don’t have that many depth”. Yes, the Aussies can only rest 2 top swimmers (more likely Magnussen and Roberts) in the prelims while the US probably can rest 3 swimmers, but you don’t need to rest 3 swimmers to win the relays, especially if those swimmers only have that relay as their only event for the day. Last year Australia rested two swimmers and won the event, while the US rested 3 swimmers and wound up third, and France did not rest any swimmer and finished second.

Speaking about depth, Aussies 6th fastest swimmer clocked 48.6 at their trials and likely to have more room for improvement as he is only 21. That is quite some depth.

Last year, going into Shanghai, the Aussies probably had the most depth (they had 7 under 48 pre-Shanghai, the most of any countries) and that’s why I predicted them to win the men 4×100 free when no one else did.

aswimfan
4 years 2 months ago

I meant “they had 7 under 49 pre-Shanghai”

Kevin
4 years 2 months ago

I expect Lochte at his best performance to only making the prelim swim at London. Either way he’ll het to be part of the relay, Greg Troy is the head men’s coach. I expect there to be a little bias decision either way.

It’s always amazed me how Bowman gets to travel on every international competition Phelps compets in, acting as an assistant coach. I’m sure USA swimming board and Bowman negotiated behind the scenes to allow this.

joeb
4 years 2 months ago

I agree…..would Bowman make any big staff in the last 10 years without michael phelps? guess they need to babysit each other.

we will see what happens when there is NO more michael phelps for nbac and bob bowman.

SwimCoach
4 years 2 months ago

Wow. A little jab in there.

I would think that arguably the all time best swimmer has earned the right to have his coach at his tapered meets. You’re also acting as if Michael is his only international level athlete. Allison also has a large role to play in a couple of months, and Bob certainly had a contingent in Beijing.

Lisa
4 years 2 months ago

Actually Bowman wasn’t on the Sydney Olympic coaching staff. So try 7 years at the most. He went to Sydney on his or the Phelps family’s own dollar cause I can’t imagine USA Swimming having paid for that when he wasn’t part of the staff. Also coaches get named to the coaching staff on the merit of what they’ve accomplished with their athletes ie. medals. Yes Bowman earned his spot because he pushed ONE swimmer to great achievements, but he still earned his spot fair and square.

Lisa
4 years 2 months ago

wow I clearly can’t do math. Skip that part about 7 years i’m a dumbass. But my actual point was coaches get named to the staff by how many medals their swimmers earn, doesn’t matter if its 1 swimmer versus 6 swimmers.

Chris
4 years 2 months ago

There was a time when Bowman was coaching Phelps, Erik Vendt, PVK, Klete Keller, Chris Dejong, Kaitlin Sandeno, Schmitt, and Davis Tarwater, which roughly coincided with the time he was head coach at Michigan. Granted, Urbanchek did most of the coaching for the freestylers, but Bowman was nominally in charge of the only club team to hold a US Open relay record.

jean michel
4 years 2 months ago

I would also predict a Phelps-Feigen-Berens-Adrian for the relay in London . No lezak or Jones or Webber Gale in there ….. unless a great Grevers or Walters sneaks in from trials time . Maybe Lochte can get a spot if he does a 47+ somewhere at trials .
I am very happy to see Allison going So fast . The Us relay could go faster than last years worlds . Very interesting to see how this is going to unfold in the weeks to come .

jean michel
4 years 2 months ago

As Mel was showing us a while ago , Dana Vollmer is going to make a huge splash this year in many events . Very happy for her to be so consistent .

bobo gigi
4 years 2 months ago

Is Jimmy Feigen the James Magnussen from USA? Why couldn’t he swim 47.50 this summer? We don’t know his limits.
For the american relay and on paper the best team is Michael Phelps, Ryan Lochte, Jimmy Feigen and Nathan Adrian. The problem is the schedule. If someone could tell me which events there are in the evening session just before this relay it would be cool. If there’s the 200 free in the same session I think Australia will be very tough to beat because swimmers from USA like Michael Phelps and Ryan Lochte and swimmers from France like Yannick Agnel and Amaury Leveaux will be less fresh than the australian swimmers.

Chris
4 years 2 months ago

On paper the US is stronger with GWG instead of Lochte. GWG was faster last year both from a flat start (48.3) and relay start (47.30). Obviously, both have some issues with consistency, and this year Lochte is looking good while GWG looks terrible, especially if he’s on the same schedule as Feigen. But, Lochte also has a huge schedule while guys like GWG, Grevers (who I think will make the relay), Berens, and Feigen only have 2 events at most.

jean michel
4 years 2 months ago

BOBO GIGI , here is the link for the schedules in London :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/8325908/London-2012-Olympics-Swimming-schedule.html
check it out . The french and the Us teams can be happy , there are no 200 free on the FIRST DAY in which the free relays are programmed ! Spot on .

bobo gigi
4 years 2 months ago

Thank you very much for the schedule. The women’s 4X100 free relay is on the first day and after the semi-finals of the 100 fly so it’s not good for Dana Vollmer. If I read well you are wrong about the men’s 4X100 free relay because it’s on the second day and after the semi-finals of the 200 free. Australia was already for me the favorite team but now it’s clear.

aswimfan
4 years 2 months ago

Jean Michel,

men 200 free semis will be two events before men 4×100 free on the same night.

bobo gigi
4 years 2 months ago

On the women’s side the american relay looks better than ever. No surprise with Allison Schmitt. Like Camille Muffat she has an easy speed which will be very important for her 200 free. Rested she must be able to swim much faster this summer. I think Lia Neal will also be able to swim around 53.50 this summer. Missy Franklin is a beast and without specific training is the best sprinter in USA. Dana Vollmer is very consistent. Amanda Weir can swim very fast but I don’t know how fast she will be. It’s very difficult to predict a time with her. I’m not surprised with Megan Romano. She was on fire in NCAA. I repeat she will be the x factor in the two free relays. I’m sure she can easily swim 53.50 in the 100 free and under 1.56 in the 200 free. She could shock the world in these two races. I think the two swimmers from the team of last year who are not sure to be in that relay are Natalie Coughlin and Jessica Hardy. I’m waiting for the trials to judge them but they struggle to finish well their races and in a relay it’s not good. But we will see.

Freebee
4 years 2 months ago

I agree with everything and I am a big Neal fan but I put her in the 4-6th spot at 53.8 (I am considering the monster swim in Charlotte)

SwimCoach
4 years 2 months ago

I think we’re forgetting Liv Jensen.

John Sampson
4 years 2 months ago

I agree that hardy and coughlin have been iffy..for me though coughlin outperforms everyone when it counts so i still think shell be on the relay. For me the best relay would be schmitt-vollmer-franklin-romano in that order and heres why: schmitt has incredible speed now which is all the US needs to stay out slightly in front, vollmer and franklin are so strong that they would pull away, and franklin has shown she is capable of going fast by herself(MR shanghai) so it would be perfect. And then romano IMO is the greatest relay swimmer out of anyone at trials. She would no doubt hang on or fight for the win if it came down to it. But there is so many options for the Us right now i would hate to be mckeever in london and have to choose!!

USSwimfan
4 years 2 months ago

Based on her short course and collegiate swims, Romano would be awesome for the relay but that has to be preformed at the long course level before it becomes a serious speculation.
Schmitt is putting herself in a position to challenge Missy and Dana as the most decorated swimmer. I’m not going to count out Natalie just yet, but unless she steps up in Omaha,- Dana, Alison and Missy are our most valuable girls and it would be shocking if Coughlin misses out in qualifying for the 4×100 or Medley.
I hope she puts it together at Trials because se has been a phenomenal ambassador for our sport.

jean michel
4 years 2 months ago

I have watched that women’s free relay from Shanagai again : the Us were just half a second behind the dutch team , only leading on the last anchor leg . Jessicay hardy got cought up on the third relay . Missy’s split was 52.99 !!! She was even getting away on the last 50 …totally owesome leg . With the new speed of Allison Schmitt on 100 free , this can be a fantastic relay between those 2 nations … anything is still possible for Gold here .

jean michel
4 years 2 months ago

Very good poin there BOBO GIGI ! With Megan Romano , Missy franklin , Lia neal and Dana Vollmer or Allison Schmitt , that relay can be totally reshaped for the best … the dutch are maybe not at ease here .

Adam Depmore
4 years 2 months ago

Based on the last 2 Olympic trials, I wouldn’t write off anyone from UT

Andy Dixon
4 years 2 months ago

If Lochte doesn’t swim fast enough to make himself a definite 4 x 100 free finals guy, I don’t think he’ll want to swim it at all. With potentially 8 events on his plate with that relay I doubt he’d want to take anything away from other events by swimming in the prelims.

I’m also not feeling the Bob Bowman talk going on here. NBAC is a powerhouse club even without Michael Phelps, I can’t believe anybody is seriously trying to question his legitimacy as a coach.

gosharks
4 years 2 months ago

I agree about Bowman/NBAC. And for all we know, Allison Schmitt is getting ready to make herself a medal threat in 6 events (100-200-400 and 3 relays). It could happen.

cupofjoe
4 years 2 months ago

Back to the men’s 4 x 100 relay. The U.S. would have won it last year if Lochte was on it. He was swimming hot and no doubt would have had a faster split than at least three of the four swimmers. But he does have to earn in at the trials, which will be tough with his schedule.
The medley relay is another interesting situation. The backstroke spots have always gone to the 1-2 swimmers at trials and I can’t see that changing so Lochte will have to swim his way on to the relay. We could lose that relay if our breaststroke leg doesn’t get better. We can’t rely on Phelps to just blow everybody away. Adrian also has to be much better than he was last year. Comments?
The Aussies and the French could be equal or better on every leg except fly.

Rafael
4 years 2 months ago

France is the weakest of all medley relays.

Their Breaststroke is at 1.00.80

They will probably lead on Backstroke but after Breast they will be behind US JPN AUS BRA and maybe Germany. France is BY FAR the weakest of the top contendes (USA, AUS, BRA, JPN, GER, Maybe Russia also and France)

bobo gigi
4 years 2 months ago

I’m from France so I know very well swimmers from my country and I can tell to american swimming fans they don’t have to be afraid of the french men’s 4X100 medley relay. We’ll play medals in the 2 other relays but in the 4X100 medley relay we have only the backstroke and the freestyle at a top level. The breaststroke is awful and the butterfly is full of questions.
USA are the big favorites for the gold medal, Japan is great for the silver medal and Australia must finish with the bronze medal.

aswimfan
4 years 2 months ago

Bobo Gigi, can you please tell me what makes Japan improved by a lot since last year to beat AUS for silver in London?

Chris
4 years 2 months ago

Brazil’s back and fly are weak, and the breast isn’t very strong. Germany is in a similar state, but with a weak free as well. Australia has 3 strong legs and a killer fourth, Japan is the opposite situation (2 great legs, 1 strong, 1 very weak), and the US has 3 strong/stellar legs and a questionable breast.

Rafael
4 years 2 months ago

Chris

Brazil has the second fastest breaststroke. 59,63 on França and he will still lose about 5 kilos till olympic to reach peak. Brazil is only slower than JPN on Breast. So how is that not strong?
Brazil back is about on par with Germany, and Pereira was also not tapered when he went 53,8. Fly I can´t see anything better than 52 flat start.. But it is the same with JPN and Germany.

Chris
4 years 2 months ago

I don’t see Brazil being competitive for a medal, although I think they can be a very solid fourth. Brazil’s breastroker is quite good, but Kitajima is in a different league, Rickard is an incredible relay swimmer, and I think the Americans will have someone (likely Hansen) able to flatstart 59.7 or better (he was 59.13 in textile jammers at one point). Also, I just don’t think Silva has the experience and consistency to deliver a great performance. Unfortunately for Brazil, Pereira will probably focus on his medley races, whereas all the Japanese and German medley swimmers are very event specific. For the fly, Both the Japanese and Germans have guys who went 51 high this year.

Rafael
4 years 2 months ago

Pereira already confirmed he will focus on medley and on the medley relay. he quit all his other events he qualified (200 free, 200 breast, 200 back) and he was untapered at maria lenk, PRO 16 coach is hoping for a 53 low for him at London.

França I Think he will make a good work, he was a very heavy swimmer in 2009 ( he weighted about 110 kilos) now he is getting leaner. but if he can keep up his perfomances of 50 breast at 100 he will be a contender. I think he may be able to go 59 low at peak

Brazil is about .2 seconds slower on fly. but Japanese best fly is also their best free (Fujii). So I don´t see the japanese advantage on fly being so decisive as they have to choose to sacrifice Fujii in one of the legs.

john26
4 years 2 months ago

In order for the US to have won that relay, Lochte would have to needed to split 47.3. The decision to put Weber Gale on the team was made by Greg Troy, Lochte’s coach. Yes, Lochte is an amazing swimmer, but the potential relay squad definitely trained together for weeks before the actual relay and the coaches probably had an idea who the final 4 would be before the prelims. WeberGale probably was already beating Lochte (48.1 trial time) in practice, and Lochte’s prelim swim didn’t indicate he could do better. I doubt Lochte being the team would’ve made any difference in the result.

swimcoach24
4 years 2 months ago

I cant see Lochte being left off the 400 free relay this year. Not with how he has been training and is looking to peak in Omaha and London.

aswimfan
4 years 2 months ago

Well, if Lochte swims 48 flat in the trials, he would be picked.
Let’s see first if he can actually do that.

aswimfan
4 years 2 months ago

It is preposterous to claim that USA would have won men 4×100 free last year had Lochte been on it.
AUS beat USA by 0.96 seconds, and USA weakest leg was GWG with 48.33, so in order to beat AUS, Lochte would have to split 47.3.

Mind you, Lochte only split 48.28 in the prelims, as fast he could, knowing fully well that only the fastest would be picked to swim the final.

Chris
4 years 2 months ago

And the funny part (maybe not for an American) is that if GWG swam 47.30 like he was on the medley relay prelims, they would have won.

cupofjoe
4 years 2 months ago

Lochte is a finals animal. He’s one of the few swimmers in the world that can step up in a finals situation and do whatever it takes. My point is you can disregard his prelims swim in Shangai. All I know is I would feel much better having Lochte on that relay. Period.

Schefty
4 years 2 months ago

As far as the 400 Freestyle relay goes, we must remember that Weber-Gale did split a 47.32 anchoring the prelims medley relay at Worlds last summer. Had he done that on the 400 free relay as oppose to his 48.33, the Americans would have won. That relay race looks to be epic this summer.

jean michel
4 years 2 months ago

Andy Dixon , i totally agree with u concerning Lochte ! first , he rarely swims the 100 free and most of the time , he is in heavy training . So to be on that relay in the final , he should be fast enough ( 48.00 or lower ) and not be too tired from the 200 free semis … That should give space for a ” Grevers ? ” or ” Webber Gale ?” or “Walters ? ” or surprise , surprise , surprise . that’s very exciting , nerv racking hehehehe .

jean michel
4 years 2 months ago

That’s why guys we are full of specific questions about those 2 relays !
1) 400 free relay : Us needs 6 good times under 48.00 before the final . Mystery prevails .
2)400 medley relay : Us is the strongest If Adrian doesn’t get caught at the end like in 2011 , If Shanteau or Hansen swims really fast ( the japanese can lead on the 2 first legs !!! ) . Without M phelps last year on the butterfly , that final was lost !!! Gangloff is too slow after the first 50 . But i beleive that did take notice of those huge details LOL .
FOR the backstroke leg , they have Thoman , Grevers ( very strong this year in meets on 100 back ) and Plummer ! only france have this potential on 100 back to begin the relay .

It’s too bad France doesn’t have YET a good butterlfy and breaststroke swimmer …let’s see anyway what’s cooking . Like i said before , on the women’s side for the 400 medley relay , i see a WR for Usa . in Shangai , they came half a second behind that record . They broke the same relay in short course at ” duel in the pool in december 2011 ” …so i see it coming . All relays will be epic , even on 800 free . the french will want to win . I just don’t see a Vanderkaay anymore on it ….who could replace ??????? But the french don’t have a last anchor like Lochte and his monster underwater dolphin kicks . Still it’s a tough call

swimcoach24
4 years 2 months ago

PVK went a best time in the 4 IM in Charlotte by like 7 seconds. It wast the only event that he suited up for. Hes doing the same work as Lochte/Dwyer/Beisel right now so I think he will show up at Trails prepared to go fast. I believe he was 1:46.0 last year on the relay so in the Olympic limelight when veterans like him generally show up big time he will be 1:44 high on the relay.

The WR is a 6:58.4. With Phelps and Lochte possibly going 1:44 lows or 1 43s, with two more solid swims on there they might be able to get this WR. Its the Olympics, these guys will show up ready to swim fast!

cupofjoe
4 years 2 months ago

Don’t discount Fred Bouscet (sp?) on the fly leg. He has been 51 plus flat start and is capable of a 50 plus.

Chris
4 years 2 months ago

He hasn’t been faster than 53 mid unsuited. Also, judging by difference in speed between his 50 free/fly and 100 free between now and then, I doubt he is capable of a “50 plus”.

aswimfan
4 years 2 months ago

Oh Joe… newsflash for you:

Bosquet is not going to the olympics. He was not selected

DDU
4 years 2 months ago

men 400m Free relay USA can win if 3 guys can swim under 48 seconds unless they take silver or bronze

Swimmerdude
4 years 2 months ago

Feigen is going to clown everyone in the 100.

Jean Michel
4 years 2 months ago

Feigen might be the surprise on 100 free , with a 47.90 !

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