After Having It All, Zac Stubblety-Cook is Hungry for More, with Eyes on WR in Paris

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In just 12 months from July 2021 to July 2022, Zac Stubblety-Cook became Olympic Champion, World Champion, Commonwealth Games Champion, and world record-holder in the 200 Breast. One year later, he settled for silver at the 2023 World Champs and saw his world record get broken in that same race by Qin Haiyang.

Stubblety-Cook sat down with SwimSwam and spoke about struggling to find motivation after achieving every possible goal he had. The Aussie is now in the full swing of Olympic training with a new fire heading into the Aussie Trials and Paris.

And at the end of the podcast, we discuss one of his other passions: coffee.

  • 0:00 Zac Stubblety-Cook Introduction
  • 1:26 Getting Advice from Adam Peaty
  • 4:20 Finding Motivation in 2023
  • 8:15 Training for the 200 Breast
  • 12:00 Racing Qin Haiyang
  • 17:19 Spring Training
  • 25:05 Training Camp in Flagstaff
  • 28:15 First Race Since 2023 Worlds
  • 36:47 Coffee Talk
  • 50:32 Olympic Year

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Eric Angle
21 days ago

To everyone saying Marchand clearly won’t choose the 200 breast over the 200 fly in Paris, here ( https://swimswam.com/leon-marchand-commits-to-another-season-at-asu-keeping-400-im-wr-in-back-of-my-mind/ ) is a Swim Swam interview where he was asked about his schedule at 2023 worlds:

He said that while he wants to do the 200 breaststroke, coach Bob Bowman is advising against it given the proximity of the 200 breast semis and the 200 IM final. “Me, I’d love to do it, but Bob doesn’t want to,” Marchand said of the 200 breast. “I will do it at the French Championships and keep it for the Paris Games.

Last edited 21 days ago by Eric Angle
John26
Reply to  Eric Angle
21 days ago

I believe there was also a statement about gauging the relative strength of 200fly and 200breast fields because the 200fly/breast are mutually exclusive in the Paris Olympics.

You’d have to think that without Milak, the 200fly is a weaker field than facing Qin in the 200breast

Hank
21 days ago

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Qin stepping up on the blocks

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Sub13
22 days ago

He name drops the Coffee Commune as where he did his coffee course! That place is great!

Hooked on Chlorine
22 days ago

He hated losing at the last world championships. That was plain when he did the post-race interview with Channel 9 (Australia). But even though he now has some serious motivation to win back-to-back Olympic gold and reclaim the 200m world record, he’s going to have to swim a flawless race to beat a breaststroking beast like Qin.

Diehard
22 days ago

Zac talks about more front end speed is needed (obviously) and mentions like Nic Fink. It is a fine line because working on front end and ignoring back end speed can be dangerous too…ie Nic Fink. Zac and his coach are pretty aware I am sure.
Really enjoyed “Coleman Coffee Chat” with Zac!

Imonar
Reply to  Diehard
22 days ago

Coleman Coffee Chat is such a mood

oxyswim
Reply to  Diehard
22 days ago

I don’t think Fink is ignoring back end, he’s just working a full time job and not training as much. Pretty obvious to see what’s happened to his 200 since he got deep into his masters program and work.

Andrew
Reply to  oxyswim
22 days ago

So he is ignoring back half speed then?

Jimmyswim
22 days ago

Haven’t listened yet but initial thoughts:

ZSC should go all in on the 200. Hopefully Williamson will have the 100 covered.

Qin Haiyang has to be the favourite at the moment but I think ZSC still has more left in him to give. Should be a good race.

Marchand is certainly in the conversation for gold if he swims this in Paris, but the multiple commenters saying Marchand would have easily won in Fukuoka and is favourite for Paris are delusional lol

M d e
Reply to  Jimmyswim
22 days ago

I think Marchand runs into the same problem as ZSC against Qin. The difference in speed is massive.

Imonar
Reply to  Jimmyswim
22 days ago

In Paris, 200 breast is in the same sessions as 200 fly.

Will Marchand swim both? Would it affect his medal chances?

I don’t think Phelps ever had two 200 events in the same sessions.

Lochte attempted 200 back-200 IM in London and it wasn’t pretty.

He would have won either if he only swum 1.

ooo
Reply to  Imonar
22 days ago

No way he swims both, but he has to keep the 2 options very close to his chest. Depending on what Milak, Heilman and Kharun do, he could opt for one or the other late in the game.

Troyy
Reply to  ooo
22 days ago

Another thing to consider is if he’s gonna swim the 4×2 final which is back to back with the 200 breast semi. The schedule really does him no favours.

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ooo
Reply to  Troyy
22 days ago

Very good point.

nuotofan
Reply to  Troyy
22 days ago

This is a big factor (beyond Milak’s troubles) for Marchand to swim the 200 fly instead of the 200 br.

nuotofan
Reply to  Imonar
22 days ago

Typically Phelps had in the same session the 200 fly final and the 4×200 free relay, and he swam both even at Rio, in his last Olympics at 31 (and that 200 free anchor after the 200 fly was painful)

The unoriginal Tim
Reply to  nuotofan
21 days ago

And had to swim really hard in the relay because of the weak leg from Lochte.

Outside Smoke
Reply to  Imonar
21 days ago

Chiming in to say Phelps always had the 200 fly and 4×200 free on the same day and always performed in both. It clearly gassed him for the rest of the meet in Rio but Marchand isn’t 30 years old.

snailSpace
Reply to  Outside Smoke
21 days ago

But the 200 fly was never right before the 4×200. Having two events in the same session and having an event 5 minutes before another event are vastly different.

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bigNowhere
Reply to  Outside Smoke
21 days ago

Phelps usually went slower leading off the 4×200 than he went in the individual 200. It is understandable given his heavy schedule. I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but he was typically about a second slower in that relay vs individual.

Joel
22 days ago

Haven’t listened yet but by “Fall training” I assume you mean September – December which is Spring training in Australia.
Some commenter on here said the main big meet of the year (July-August) was NOT held in the winter period for Australian swimmers. Sigh.

Imonar
Reply to  Joel
22 days ago

“Some commenter on here said the main big meet of the year (July-August) was NOT held in the winter period for Australian swimmers. Sigh.”

Must be the same people that think the earth is flat.

Andrew
22 days ago

ZSC is an absolute beast at the 200 but he really does only know one speed lmao. Would’ve thought he would start training more speed for the AUS 4 med but here we are. 200 breast is a very hard event and vastly different from the 100.

commonwombat
Reply to  Andrew
22 days ago

Think you are wrong about him being “one paced”. He’s more a “steady build-up” pacer with primary reliance on his final 50.

What sank him in Fukuoka, apart from Qin NOT dying on the run home, and in medley relays are his shocking starts.

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