Judge Dismisses Katinka Hosszu’s Lawsuit Vs Barrett, Swimming World

A U.S. District Court Judge in Arizona has dismissed the defamation lawsuit filed by Hungarian swimmer Katinka Hosszu against writer Casey Barrett and Swimming World Magazine.

Last November, Hosszu filed suit against Barrett, Swimming World and it publisher, Sports Publications International, Incorporated.

The suit centered around an opinion piece written by Barrett and published on Swimming World‘s website, a story called “Are Katinka Hosszu‘s Performances Being Aided?” The story raised questions about Hosszu’s legality concerning anti-doping rules based on her extreme endurance and success in the pool, though the story noted that there was no proof Hosszu had ever failed a doping test.

That piece was published in May. In November, Hosszu sued Barrett and Swimming World for defamation, claiming that the allegations that she was doping were untrue and that the site knew they were untrue even as they published the story.

The case wrapped up this month, just under a year from when the suit was filed. Judge G. Murray Snow granted a motion to dismiss filed by Barrett, Swimming World and Sports Publications Internationa, Incorporated, ruling that Barrett’s piece was protected speech under the 1st Amendment and was clearly designated as opinion, rather than fact.

The specifics of the case lean on court precedent stating that “the threshold questions in defamation suits is… whether a reasonable factfinder could conclude that the statement implies an assertion of objective fact.”

Snow’s decision notes that Barrett admitted in the first sentence of his piece that “there is no proof” that Hosszu was doping, and wrote the story based on his own analysis of facts about Hosszu’s career. Snow also points out that Barrett’s story was designated three times as “commentary,” suggesting a statement of opinion, rather than an assertion of facts.

The case has now been dismissed. You can read the decision here and the court order to dismiss the lawsuit here.

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Sergey v

My statement of opinion (not an assertion of facts):

Katinka Hosszu’s extreme performances are questionable at best and may be aided, despite having never failed doping test.

Emanuele

In Europe, this is still defamation. Only in Usa the first amendment allow journalist to write b*****t without prove.

Uberfan

Lol cause you’re not in the land of the free. That’s so dumb you can be sued for thinking an athlete does something.

Emanuele

Nobody can sue you for thinking but if you make a declaration which can cause problem or money loss to others you MUST have prove to back it up. Otherwise you should pay for the damage, very simple.
Theoretically you can replace hosszu name with anyone’s name and write the same article over and over again.

Attila the Hunt

No, you cannot “just replace Hosszu name with anyone else” using the arguments that Casey Barrett wrote for SwimmingWorld.
Have you actually ever read the swimmingworld blog?

If you don’t believe me, try replace Hosszu’s name with any other swimmer’s name using Barrett’s arguments. It won’t work.

Glen

Don’t worry. We all know the US is as infamous for drug cheats as the Russians & Chinese are, or as the East Germans were. So it is only natural they will try to throw aspersions elsewhere. Years from now when Phelps and Ledecky are revealed to have taken notes from Lance Armstrong, they will use the arguments “ancient history”. They have all the bases covered 🙂

Attila the Hunt

Try replace Hosszu with any other swimmer’s name using Barret’s arguments. You can’t.

Emanuele

Yeah, nobody can compare Phelps (8), Lochte (7), Ledecky (6 but with more distance), Belmonte (5), Sjorstrom (6) number of race with hosszu’s… And if you mean about result during the season, she simply train during the races and maybe it’s only a training style that fit her. Even the same training menu could mean different result on different athetes…. So this is the same thing as: “Micheal Phelps’ extreme performances are questionable at best and may be aided, despite having never failed doping test.” “Maya di Rado” extreme performances are questionable at best and may be aided, despite having never failed doping test. “Whatever guys extreme performances are questionable at best and may be aided, despite having never failed… Read more »

Attila the Hunt

Huh?
Have you actually read Barrett’s article?

You are repeating Sergey’s comment instead of Barret’s argument.

Try do it using Barrett’s arguments. And replace with another swimmer’s name. Won’t work.

spectatorn

on the other hand, until many more swimmer tried Hosszu’s training and racing method, Barret is simply attribute it to doping. Many of swimming races in Europe offer prize money and many swimmers raced for the prize money too. Hosszu may seems to be going to the extreme by 2015 – but if the author willing to look at how she had progressively increase her schedule as she found success, it is not hard to see that strategies worked for her and she raced more (and more money) from 2013 onward. One can say this progression was not too different from Katie Ledecky increasing her racing range in the last 4 years. Shouldn’t Barrett question that too? In today’s specialized… Read more »

Attila the Hunt

BS. Martina Moravcova was the queen of racing tons. In fact, she held record for most world cup wins by a distance, before Hosszu broke it.
It didn’t suddenly make Moravcova a super woman like Hosszu.

Innocent Until Proven Guilty

Yes I can….Katie Ladecky! One could say she’s gone as fast as she has because she’s been aided somehow. The writer should have been held accountable for their comments. I’m tired of the press hiding behind the first amendment when they tarnish someone’s reputation without a shred of evidence or proof. Without proof, Katinka’s results in the pool are due to her hard work just like Katie Ladecky. Emanuele’s argument hold a whole lot more water than yours. Just like in a criminal court….innocent until proven guilty!

Attila the Hunt

No you can’t, because you are not using Casey Barrett’s arguments against Katie Ledecky.

afever

The author was speculating as to her sudden rise and whether it was aided by PED’s. I think that is certainly reasonable. Is she clean? I doubt it. Her and her husband both swam at USC which is the land of “I didn’t know what was in those supplements.” He looks like a total blowfish. She has gotten much better without a reasonable expectation as to why (aka Michelle Smith). Is that proof? No. But it points to something. If a journalist had to have proof, then they should be able to look into her emails, her texts and everything else. Otherwise, it is reasonable to speculate. Is she dirty? I think so. Is Phelps or Ledecky? I doubt it.… Read more »

anonymoose

write a similar article about michael phelps with fitting arguments, try to replace phelps with anybody else. you cant

Attila the Hunt

What kind of argument is this?
If you can, now write article about Phelps that alleged he is doping.

anonymoose

talk about being sued for bs america should be quiet af

FunkyTrunkMonkey

Yeah, land of the free to smear someone. You realize the Court of Public Opinion is easily manipulated, right?

Guppy

When you’ve been hurt by slanderous “opinions” widely broadcast in the press, you will probably change your stance. It’s pretty horrible to be wrongfully accused with no proof and no defense.

BackstrokerLCM

Yeah screw the USA for protecting journalists and citizen’s ability to speak their minds. Always causing so much trouble probably should just imprison people for life for pieces like this like we do Egypt… (Sarcasm)

Marta

The title is so misleading, it should at least be a slap on the wrist of the “journalist” who wrote it. At the very least title it “Op-Ed: Are Katinka Hosszu‘s Performances Being Aided?” Why lead the reader on when there is no proof of anything at all to be read?

This really explains why so many sheeple in the USA believe things without proof, ie, everything that comes out of Trump’s mouth. If someone says something with conviction, someone else will believe it simple because it was stated. God forbid we base anything on facts.

emg1986

Have you read some of the trash journalists across Europe write??

Emanuele

Yes, almost none of them are trash like americans opinionist.

completelyconquered

Remember when the polls said Brexit wouldn’t pass? How’d that work out?

CROOKED HILLARY

I will say the press in the USA is highly bias towards a liberal ideology and often times the overseas press reports it as a journalist should without bias. You absolutely cannot deny that statement.

Jjd

Actually I can deny that statement. First, political bias has nothing to do with this discussion. Second, if you are going to be critical of the press for expressing “biased” unsubstantiated statements, you probably should express that criticism by making a biased unsubstantiated statement

completelyconquered

The argument here was that European journalists don’t write trash. Which is just ridiculous.

CROOKED HILLARY

Sure it does. It established bias in the press. Second, do I really need to substantiate that? Pick up a newspaper or watch CNN today.

zfibster

Pllllleeeeeeeeeesee

CROOKED HILLARY

You are more than welcome to prove me wrong…..that’s right…you can’t 🙂

Pvdh

I’ll take my freedom thanks.

Guppy

Is anyone spreading lies about you in the press?

R&R

God Bless America.

Swimmom57

Well you are in the US where fact is fact, not a cover up. Feel “free” to live and train in another country.

Swimsue

So what about Phelps performances or Ledeckys? By the “logic” you and the other “experts” have used against Hosszú, could.be used against.them too, but nah how I dare to write such thing soon an eagle comes and grab my phone out of my hands, i never imagined that Usa have such a big propaganda, even bigger and more disgraceful than Russia, gosh

Attila the Hunt

No, the arguments against Hosszu were spelt our in Barrett’s article can’t be used against Phelps and Ledecky.

You should go read Barrett’s article first.

Zorro

Phelps and Ledecky started to shine at young ages. There is no any idiot to dope a 14 y old in the US, unless wants to spend 400 years in the can.
Hosszu did not get much breakthrough until 23. She was told in Hungary to come to USC, get a diploma before quits swimming completely, to have some use of those swimming years.
Swimming at the USC, Dave Salo suggested to her to go back to Budapest and open a beauty salon, instead of swimming. Quite same opinions from the other ends of the world.
Them she met an amateur coach, and started to fly in the water, at the age when most successful swimmers already retired. Chemistry worked…

Eva S. Molnar

Michael Phelps’ extreme performances are questionable at best and may be aided, despite having never failed doping test.

Catherine

In my opinion, Hoszu’s extreme performances are proof of years of very hard work.

BackstrokerLCM

You could very well be right too let’s hope.

Attila the Hunt

I guess Elizabeth Beisel, Mireia Belmonte, Hannah Miley, Emily Seebohm, Madison Wilson, Olivia Smoliga, Mie Nielsen, Belinda Hocking, Maya Dirado, Siobahn Marie O’Connor, Ye Shiwen, Missy Franklin, etc didn’t work anywhere as hard as Hosszu.
Those swimmers should be ashamed of themselves and start putting in the work so they can swim PBs after PBs after PBs, anytime, anywhere, at the age of 27.

Murica

Exactly.

Attila the Hunt

And how do you know that Elizabeth Beisel, Mireia Belmonte, Hannah Miley, Emily Seebohm, Madison Wilson, Olivia Smoliga, Mie Nielsen, Belinda Hocking, Maya Dirado, Siobahn Marie O’Connor, Ye Shiwen, Missy Franklin do not work anywhere as hard as Hosszu?

Which is more plausible, dozens of world-class super-talented (some of them are more talented than Hosszu) Olympics and world champions/medalists that don’t work nearly as hard as Hosszu? Or, they worked as hard, and some even harder, as Hosszu?

swimfan

Dara Torres? Anthony Irvin? Jason Lezak? Hard work will never trump talent when talent works hard

Attila the Hunt

Did anyone of those swimmers you mentioned swim 8 events and scored PBs after PBs after PBs – seconds faster than what they swam in their early 20s , swam week in week out in many continents and still scored PBs?

No.

swimdoc

There’s a difference between hard work, and smart hard work. It’s entirely possible that she figured out training methods that were superior. It happens all the time. Anthony Ervin swims like a dog a year ago, swims 3 months at SwimMac and wins Olympic gold. Katie Meili, a good college swimmer, goes to SwimMac and outsplits everyone on breast in the medley relay at Rio. There are many examples in other sports too. She does one thing that no one else has ever done — true race pace training in actual races, and in a million races in the same meet, and meet after meet. She didn’t do that before she started having success. So before you discount her achievements… Read more »

R&R

It sure worked for Lochte.

Yada

Actually, what he’s referring to did work for Lochte. From 09-12 he swam grueling schedules at Grand Prix meets over and over and over again, while doing heavy pool training and strongman workouts. He was also the best swimmer in the world during this time frame, at a relatively advanced age by traditional swimming standards. Marsh’s training, for whatever reason, be it age, (32 is 32 and boss that he is, he isn’t a freak athlete) not enough rest, too much rest, lack of training partners in his events at SwimMac, or any of several other factors, didn’t work that well for him. Maybe being an absolute animal in training for a couple of decades finally caught up with him… Read more »

Attila the Hunt

Lochte did not swim PBs after PBs at those grand prix. He also didn’t swim week in week out in different countries.
On the opposite, his swam very slow in those grand prix.

Or you weren’t paying attention?

Yada

Your snarky, childish rhetoric does not strengthen your position. You can miss me with that garbage, thank you.

Attila the Hunt

I maybe snarky, but at least I’m right.
Meanwhile, you were incorrect on your attempted explanation about Lochte.

Yada

Actually, nothing I wrote about Lochte was incorrect.

Attila the Hunt

True, I take my word.
But your example of Lochte to support swim doc’s argument in support of Hosszu clearly is incorrect and actually works as argument against Hosszu.

Lochte swam extremely slow in those grand prix swim in between heavy training and he didn’t swim nearly as often as Hosszu.
What Hosszu does is the opposite of Lochte.

Yada

Scroll down four comments and see my reply. And only an extremely biased person would suggest that what I said works against Hosszu. But you clearly are that, so there we are.

Yada

There is no debating with you. You have your opinion, actually Casey Barret’s opinion, and you’re running with it no matter what.

HulkSwim

Hosszu’s 400 IM’s were average in season swims save the one, but even that one 433 has been done by a couple of other 400 IMers in that same final in the Arena Grand Prix’s

Attila the Hunt

Here’s Hosszu’s 400 IM this year in season while untapered:

4:29.89 Meeting Open de la Mediterranee Circuit FFN
4:30.75 Mare Nostrum – Spanish Grand Prix
4:30.75 Mare Nostrum 11/6/2016
4:30.90 European Championships
4:30.97 HEuropean Aquatics Champs 16/5/2016
etc…

Those are average?

FYI, those times are faster than silver medal time in Rio.

HulkSwim

Katinka rarely goes PB’s at all at the grand prix’s, let alone PB after PB… she simply swims just enough faster than other non-rested swimmers to collect the cash. You don’t need to break WR’s to win an a World Cup event. You hardly need to be at A cuts.

Attila the Hunt

She didn’t set PBs in all her swims, but definitely set tons of those. If she didn’t set PBs, she was close.

HulkSwim

haha- so close is now the same as PB’s??? I listed her 400 IM times from those meets in a later comment- she was 5-14 seconds off her PB in 7 of 8 meets and the other time was 3 seconds off.

By contrast Emily Seebohm was 208 or better in the 200 bk about 5 times and 210 the other 2.

spectatorn

hopefully someone would do more work to pick out all the PB for both to validate the saying of “PB after PB after PB at those Grand Prix”. Based on info in Wiki, Lochte’s PBs in LC spread between 2009-2013 and mostly 2011 and 2012, when he is between 27-29. Hosszu’s PBs in LC spread between 2014-2016 (plus one in 2009), when she is between 25-27. None of Hosszu’s PB in LC or SC were done in US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Lochte#Career_best_times
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katinka_Hossz%C3%BA#Personal_best_times

Attila the Hunt

Did Lochte swim week in week out posting PBs in 8 events?

Nope.

Yada

This is a false equivalence, and your single rhetorical question is not an unimpeachable point as you seem to think it is. First, Hosszu did not swim week in and week out posting PBs in each of 8 events every time, this is just not factual. Second, Gregg Troy is famously a heavy yardage coach, we don’t know exactly what Hosszu and Tusup do, but I’m guessing she does something closer to USRPT than to heavy, hard yardage all year. Third, strongman exercises wear you the f out. I don’t think Hosszu is flipping tractor tires and pulling boat chains across fields. The point is, he trained by racing, same as her, and did it over and over and over… Read more »

spectatorn

hopefully someone would do more work to pick out all the PB for both to validate the saying of “PB after PB after PB at those Grand Prix”. Based on info in Wiki, Lochte’s PBs in LC spread between 2009-2013 and mostly 2011 and 2012, when he is between 27-29. Hosszu’s PBs in LC spread between 2014-2016 (plus one in 2009), when she is between 25-27. None of Hosszu’s PB in LC or SC were done in US.

Attila the Hunt

1. Did I say that Hosszu swam her PBs in those grand prix? Read the thread carefully. My response was to someone who suggested Lochte swam frequently in those grand prix.
2. The last PB Lochte swam was 4:05 in London when he was 27. He never set another PB after that.
3. Hosszu is 27 she just set a few large PBs last week, and we all know female peak years are usually earlier than men.
4. Lochte also swam NCAA, but he didn’t wait until he finish NCAA to constantly swim huge PBs.
5.lochte didn’t train with a single unproven coach who worked in isolation.

HulkSwim

neither did Katinka

HulkSwim

hence the ‘- at least for some people-‘ qualifier.

Lefthanded Swimmer

She trained with Dave Salo. He is as close to race pace as you can get in mainstream coaching. What you are saying isn’t true. She didn’t do anything radically different. The only major difference according to Katina was weight training. Andrews has been doing race pace from the get go. Not an apples to apples comparison. Katina didn’t medal in 2012 and had a meteoric change in times after changing to Shane as coach. Any kind of radical change wouldn’t have produced results instantly (You know that Doc! 🙂 ). Andrews is also post pubertal where you naturally drop time. Of course he dropped from 15 to 15 and 16 to 17.

Attila the Hunt

So, how did Hosszu suddenly make the jump to swim faster than she ever was across literally all individual events from 50 to 1500 distances in all strokes at the age of 24 onwards?

Yada

Off the top of my head, change in training, both in the pool and weight room, change in mentality, change in coaching, change in scenery. She was also an incredibly talented and successful swimmer before that, having been a multiple time NCAA champion and record holder at USC.

HulkSwim

I love how you guys make it out like she just appeared on the scene ‘at 27’… she kicked all those peoples butts when she was 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22 at USC, and was expected to at 23 in London but just crumbled (a la many of the Aussies) and has been back to kicking their butts at 24, 25, 26 and yes… 27.

And I’ve heard the argument that ‘turning it around’ like that makes her suspicious… well, I can’t wait for everyone to point the doping finger at Cate Campbell if she starts dominating again, since we all know that failure leading to success is a clear sign of doping.

Attila the Hunt

You are clearly reaching.

The problem with Hosszu has never been a failure at an Olympics and then start dominating.
When did Hosszu break WR before London?
Did Hosszu win Olympics medal at the age of 16?
Did Hosszu beat multiple reigning world champions at the age of 15?

Yeah, thought so.

Yada

No, Atilla, you are the one who is reaching. You have got an axe to grind for some reason, and are clearly unwilling to even consider any other perspective than your own. Are you related to Donald Trump by chance?

Attila the Hunt

Yada, I was responding to hulkswim who equated Hosszu to Cate Campbell.
Who is reaching now?

Yada

Still you

Attila the Hunt

Great argument from you.

Yada

I made a few arguments, you either ignored or changed the scope of them, which is what people do when they’re talking out of their ass. Arguments only seem to matter to you when you’re the one making them, so I bid you good day, and good luck with your bitter internet crusade against one of the best swimmers I’m the world, who surely does not know that your salty even exists.

HulkSwim

Is that a pre-requisite for breaking a WR at 27??? when did 27 become 42???

And she won World Champs medal at 15- is that good enough? She went 430 at 19- is that good enough? She beat all the NCAA girls in the 400 IM in 2011/2012- is that good enough?

Attila the Hunt

I mentioned that because you used Cate Campbell as example.

spectatorn

If every athlete has their unique path, then consider Hosszu has hers and that may not have anything to do with doping. Hosszu’s career has a lot of similarity to many swimmer up to end of London Olympic – she started showing promise when she was young, she pursue that dream and come to US to study and swim and was successful at NCAA and at World Championships. She had high expectation from herself and her country to win gold in London. But she did not and she had two option at the time – quit swimming or keep going for the next Olympic. She decided to keep swimming. The similarity ended here. She pick a more drastic route by… Read more »

Attila the Hunt

Sure. Michelle Smith de Bruin with very similar story to Hosszu also had unique path.

Catherine

Seriously? So everyone who swims against Katie Ledecky is a slacker too? If you look at the world record progressions in both the women’s 400 free and 400 IM, the time ratios track each other pretty closely over the years. IF you accuse Hoszu you may as well accuse Ledecky.

Attila the Hunt

The argument that only Hosszu work hard was brought up by someone.

No one has ever said Ledecky’s competitors as slacker.

My advice is, again, READ CASEY BARRETT’s blogs so you understand the arguments against Hosszu.

Catherine

Actually, I’m the one who expressed the opinion that Hoszu’s performances were the result of years of hard work. You are the one who took that as a suggestion that nobody else worked hard enough. Obviously, that’s not what I said. Reread swimdoc’s comments, in which he expresses his opinion that it’s a combination of hard work and novel training methods. I couldn’t put it better myself.

Attila the Hunt

So your conjecture is that Hosszu’s results were the results of years of hardwork. I don’t deny it. What I say is that other swimmers also worked at least as hard as Hosszu, they also worked as smart as Hosszu. And yet, why is it that Hosszu able to gain huge PBs at the age of 26 across 16 (sixteen) individual events. all the while swimming casually world beating times casually week in week out swimming 8+ events in meet. When did she even find time to train? Hosszu is also not more talented than her main rivals, she is certainly not in the calibre of Ledecky, Campbell, Sjostrom, Franklin (who all were either Olympics/World champions by the time they… Read more »

Catherine

A lot of people have answered you already. Lots of weight training, LOTS more racing. See other replies .. I don’t have time for this.

Attila the Hunt

Lost of training we know of.
Lots of weight training we don’t know. Care to share her training sets and how she does it during all those travel and constant fast swimming ?

Is she the first person on earth who can do weight train every day AND swim 4:30s (and other absurd amount of fast swimming week in week out)?
So, the coach tusup who had never coached anyone before has found magic formula to turn around a swimmer so dramatically, defying the belief and accumulated swimming and coaching knowledge of all world’s top coaches?

Ger

Yes, that’s it. She’s the only swimmer in history who’s ever worked hard. Everyone else is a lazy so and so.

Nick

Gold medals are not given for those who are training hard, but for those who swam the fastest time in the final
And Hosszu was swimming 4 years to get the WRs, not to get the ‘best worker of the olympics’ title
Maybe other coaches should learn something from Tusup

anonymoose

what about ledecky then??

Attila the Hunt

What about her?

Try read Barrett’s article first and see the actual arguments used against Hosszu.

DrDolphinKick

The “arguments” he uses are specious with just enough truth and statistical simplicity to fool anyone with half a brain. Your arrogant and dismissive online persona makes you an ideal candidate to jump on the anti Hosszu bandwagon and use his weak reasoning against her.

Attila the Hunt

Which ones of his arguments that are specious?
And how is his reasoning weak?

spectatorn

you keep saying read the article – why don’t you tell us what you see from Barrett’s article to support your argument?

Attila the Hunt

I’ve never had any argument against Barrett’s blog article.
Why don’t YOU tell us why you disagree with his arguments?

HulkSwim

way to go to the extreme… but i think it’s clear that she’s doing a great job of living the pro lifestyle.

hey, someone is doing the eat/sleep/train thing ‘the best’. they all do it at least very well. but someone is doing it the best. why not her?

Lets not be so hypocritical.

She’s not from the Usa so it can’t be her! /S

Attila the Hunt

We don’t accuse peaty, cseh, gyurta, koch, balandin, hagino, kaneto, chalmers, blume, and any other non-americans of doping

spectatorn

because Barrett hasn’t write an article on them yet? LOL

Attila the Hunt

No, because no one ever suspected those swimmers.
Meanwhile, plenty top coaches, swimmers and swimming journalists do against Hosszu.

Most hypocritical nation on earth

No but the moment someone dominates with unconventional training methods, especially a non american, the bullying begins. I don’t get how americans can act so horrible against other athletes without any proof and then act like their athletes are somehow different because they train old school and don’t race as often because of it.

Attila the Hunt

Oh please. Not another American vs. Non American thing.

There are plenty successful non American swimmers with unconventional training method that just don’t raise questions or suspicions.

John

Everyone works hard, but often too many people work hard doing completely dumb training. Smart work wins, not hard work.

Attila the Hunt

So you think only Hosszu does smart work, and NONE other top swimmers do it?

Do you think it’s plausible?

Catherine

you could ask the same of Ledecky or Phelps. Someone is going to be the best – with the best combination of training and talent. Why not her?

Attila the Hunt

The difference is:
NO ONE here has claimed that Phelps and Ledecky are doing the smart hard work and other swimmers are not doing it.

Catherine

Attila, you’re not even making coherent arguments anymore. I heard it said many times over the last couple of months (but not here) that Ledecky is one of the few swimmers who uses a “loping” sort of stroke that is more commonly used by men, and that it was, in part, the source of her success. If that’s true, I expect we’ll see a lot more women swimming like that soon. And I have often heard of Phelps that, from a young age, he has been VERY good at following precise instructions, and getting his pacing right. In fact in many sports, the gold medalists are going to have a very unique combination of abilities, coaching, and ability to focus.… Read more »

Attila the Hunt

It is not implausible of course, but what is this new training method?
Because Ledecky’s and Phelps’ trainings have been published afr and widely.

So what is Hosszu’s new training method?
When does she get time to train when she traveled so often?
How did she build her endurance and speed without any training block?
How did she get to swim so often in so many events and still swim many PBs or close to PBs?
etc

northern light

Phelps was a star swimmer from the age of 11. Hosszu became a star at 25 right after working with Tossup. At an age when most women have long sine past improving.

Catherine

Northern Light. “the past is not a reliable predictor of the future” as so many mutual fund prospectuses put it. When I swam decades ago (late 1970s), most female swimmers peaked at age 16 or 17. We KNEW that we’d be washed up by the time by the time we hit college. We KNEW it so we stopped trying as hard and turned our attention to our studies (good advice anyway even if the reasons about dropping swimming were wrong). We thought we knew it but we were WRONG. So please don’t advance the argument that it doesn’t usually happen so it can’t happen in the future. It is still true that very few women find it worth their while… Read more »

Lefthanded Swimmer

I hope that’s the case. There has been little conversation about changes she made other than swimming less, lifting more, and competing more. I would buy the results more readily IF she was blowing up 100s only but her closing speed on 200s and 400 IM at the end of the race doesn’t exactly jive with the “program changes” she made in my humble opinion. It’s not like she left a distance program and went with high intensity. She had been with Salo who is known for high intensity/lower yardage. What she describes isn’t a radical departure from what she was doing. Maybe it is a mental change only. It doesn’t help that her husband coach looks like a ‘roid… Read more »

Years of Plain Suck

Or as Gold Medal Mel would say, the result of “Hard work and years of plain suck.”

Attila the Hunt

I guess all the other top swimmers don’t work hard.

Yabo Squandrant

Swimming isn’t fair sometimes people have radical breakthroughs at different times in their life than others. Sometimes two people work just as hard And one person goes faster than the other bc of genetics,
Mentality etc

Don\'t be ignorant

So by your logic Phelps doesn’t work any harder than other athletes, he just uses doping? Despicable.

Macher Szilárd

If a Hungarian won – that is doping. If a swimmer from the USA that is clear…Sure…
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Attila the Hunt

Puhlease.

No one ever said pr even suspected cseh, gyurta, kapas, jakabos, verraszto etc of doping.

About Jared Anderson

Jared Anderson

Jared Anderson just can’t stay away from the pool. A competitive career of almost two decades wasn’t enough for this Minnesotan, who continues to get his daily chlorine fix. A lifelong lover of writing, Jared now combines the two passions as Senior Reporter for SwimSwam.com, covering swimming at every level. He’s an …

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