Mel Marshall Calls Out Illegal Breaststroke Dolphin Kicks By ISL Rivals

2020 INTERNATIONAL SWIMMING LEAGUE – MATCH 6

Match #6 of the International Swimming League (ISL) season 2 may have concluded, but the trash-talking is just now heating up among the ISL teams.

On her Instagram account today, November 2nd, London Roar head coach Mel Marshall, also the regular coach of Olympic champion breaststroker Adam Peaty, dedicated several sequential posts to what she says is a rule violation by other teams in the breaststroke discipline.

Including race sippets from Energy Standard’s Ilya Shymanovich and Tokyo Frog Kings’ Vlad Morozov, Marshall poses the question, to the swimmers, their respective teams, as well as the ISL itself, “Can you confirm these moves are in the rules?” Marshall specifically tags these individuals as well, speaking directly to them.

The underwater video depicts the swimmers’ legs appearing to undulate during the non-pullout part of the race.

In the final post, Marshall states, “Simple my mom taught me to play by the rules! Have watched this happen over and over again from 2012 onwards. Underwater it’s still a brs [sic] race with 1 fly kick!”

The Loughborough National Centre lead coach continued, “So disappointed. People and competitors who I respect slipping into looking at breaking the rules to win.

“It’s what we do in the shadows, when no one watches, that shows what characters we are.”

Energy Standard’s Shymanovich, whom Marshall specifically mentions, established a new European Record during the just-finished match #6, hitting a new lifetime best of 55.86. He also took the 50m breast in Budapest during the match.

As for Morozov, the Russian-slash-Tokyo Frog King most recently finished 4th in the 50m breast in match #5.

 

 

 

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brian
9 months ago

Alright but what would Mel do if one of her own swimmers are cheating? I’m sure she wouldn’t be trying to call them out the same way.

Swimmer
Reply to  brian
9 months ago

She 100% wouldn’t stand for it. Listen to one interview with Mel and you get a sense of how honest a coach she is. She wants her swimmers to win, but she wants them to do it right.

Tyson
Reply to  Swimmer
9 months ago

Agreed if one of her swimmers did it she would not stand for it

Reply to  brian
9 months ago

Hi. I bet you she would. She’s a lead coach and she is duty bound to report and I reckon her swimmers wouldn’t do it anyway. However during a pullout underwater phase legs can naturally undulate when you pull arms down to the hips. Hope swimmers are not taking advantage of that and exaggerating that. !!

Matt
Reply to  brian
9 months ago

So you agree they cheated.

Khachaturian
9 months ago

I swear, the literal stroke breast stroke is the most controversial thing to happen since the super suits.

X Glide
Reply to  Khachaturian
9 months ago

Agreed. And it’s probably been the most controversial since ever. The invention of Butterfly was the by product people trying to cheat in Breaststroke.

Last edited 9 months ago by X Glide
Swammerstein
Reply to  X Glide
9 months ago

whoa overwater recovery was a loophole, not trying to cheat! I dont understand why its so difficult to stick within the confines of the rules. I agree with Braden, video review needs to be implemented in the sport especially in breaststroke where blatant and intentional cheating is so rampent. We also need to stop bending and changing the rules of the stroke to support athletes that cheated *cough*kitajima2004*cough*

PSASwim
Reply to  Swammerstein
9 months ago

*cough*Lily King*cough*

Swimreason
Reply to  X Glide
9 months ago

Cheat!? They operated within the limits of the rules at the time. Sorry, that’s not cheating.

Admin
Reply to  Khachaturian
9 months ago

I often muse if we should just eliminate breaststroke from swimming, given how historically difficult it’s been to maintain the stroke within its boundaries, but then I think about it and I just like the aesthetics of 4 strokes better than 3 strokes.

We need to use videos to make these calls if we have any hope of controlling this. If you start disqualifying swimmers at international finals regularly, you’ll see these ‘bad habits’ melt away real quick.

DrSwimPhil
Reply to  Braden Keith
9 months ago

Either they wouldn’t make the finals, or there wouldn’t be enough to fill a podium after said final took place…..

Spectatorn
Reply to  Braden Keith
9 months ago

nooooooooo! the world will fall into chaos with 150IM and 300IM at worlds and Olympics… and 75m IM at ISL…. LOL

Xman
Reply to  Braden Keith
9 months ago

Should they replace it with elementary Backstroke or side stroke (courtesy of Red Cross Learn to Swim) ?

Aussieone
Reply to  Xman
9 months ago

I love sidestroke! It was always my best stroke 😂

Swammajammadingdong
Reply to  Braden Keith
9 months ago

We need officials to start disqualifying swimmers for cheating. I’m an official, and the crap I see get ignored at nationally televised meets is embarrassing. The officials at these competitions are part of a cabal, and you have to kiss ass and keep your hand down at big meets to get selected to return.

torchbearer
Reply to  Braden Keith
9 months ago

90 percent of casual swimmers swim breastroke (or about 99 percent in a British public pool)!

Swammer
9 months ago

I also noticed that “dolphin kick” that shymanovich did into the finish but I’m no breaststroker so I have no idea if what he did was legal but I will say he didn’t take a full stroke into the wall so he couldn’t have gotten a full breaststroke kick in.

Swammerstein
Reply to  Swammer
9 months ago

youre allowed to take a stroke without a kick, something thats occasionally done when timing into the wall is poor, but thats a clear illegal downward dolphin kick in both instances which is very much so illegal

BobbyJones
Reply to  Swammerstein
9 months ago

Watch Victor Davis in LA Olympics.. its epic! Thats totally legal

BobbyJones
Reply to  BobbyJones
9 months ago

I mean the stroke / no kick

PhillyMark
Reply to  Swammer
9 months ago

I missed the video…was it similar to Reese’s kick at the finish at nationals cpl years ago?

DrSwimPhil
Reply to  Swammer
9 months ago

That happens A LOT more than people notice above water…

Swimswammer
9 months ago

Cody Miller is sitting in his endless swimming pool at home right now, thanking the Hair gods that he isn’t in Budapest.

Last edited 9 months ago by Swimswammer
The unoriginal Tim
Reply to  Swimswammer
9 months ago

He’s never been the worst for this (lots of people are doing it all the time but mostly the tv footage never replays it). He just got called out more than most.

Fan
Reply to  The unoriginal Tim
9 months ago

Watch his 100 breast when he won his medal in 2016. He hits a dolphin kick almost every stroke

PSASwim
Reply to  Fan
9 months ago

I do believe it is an Indian University skill recently. Noticed it a lot more in their swimmers after Lily King brought it with her there.

swimfan210_
Reply to  Swimswammer
9 months ago

tbt to Cody swimming the 50 fly last season

Guerra
Reply to  Swimswammer
9 months ago

Cody Miller’s kick is 100% legal. After all, he’s coached by the GOAT, Ray Looze. #rayloozegoatcoach, #themancodymiller, #iuwillwinthebig10infootball

Guerra
Reply to  Guerra
9 months ago

Thank you to the person that gave me a plus vote. I’m was really feeling a lot of hate with zero plus votes and 57 minus votes. It’s lonely at the top. Just ask Indiana University’s GOAT Head Coach, Ray Looze!

Last edited 9 months ago by Guerra
PSASwim
Reply to  Guerra
9 months ago

Sorry to disagree. If you have to resort to allowing your swimmers to cheat on their strokes in order to win, you can not be the GOAT, but perhaps a Loozer… Cheaters are not winners in my book, and it has actually turned some people I know away from the sport. If they can not classically perform well and are outshined by obvious cheating, it takes the sportsmanship out of the game. Bring sportsmanship back to swimming, and ditch this cheating controversies.

Guerra
Reply to  PSASwim
9 months ago

Anybody that says Ray is teaching his athletes to cheat is full of sour grapes and/or delusional. The Indiana program, including both the athletes and coaches, are innovative, talented and hard working. I’ve studied what both Cody and Lilly do and there’s no question in my mind that what they are doing is 100% legal.

PSASwim
Reply to  Guerra
8 months ago

No personal sour grapes. Just notice high amount of swimmers doing the “illegal” kick after going there. I can not swim anymore due to injury, but hate seeing the sport resort to finding grey areas and mini cheats to “improve”, as opposed to being a good sportsman and using hard work and dedication to achieve results.

ZanBai
9 months ago

Good. Hope other coaches will follow.

Dee
9 months ago

Good for her. No shade, nothing nasty, just fronting up and questioning something many of us have been debating on these very forums over the past week. You have to respect it.

swimfan210_
9 months ago

That’s good stuff, love it. Still waiting for the ISL to post the video so I can review it again, I wasn’t looking carefully during the race. This isn’t the first time this season someone in the ISL has gotten away with breaking a rule, I think Linnea Mack kicked past the 15 in her 50 back and didn’t get DQed. “Do the right thing when no one is watching” 100%

Taa
9 months ago

Unless everyone is doing the same stroke there is no point in racing each other.

The unoriginal Tim
Reply to  Taa
9 months ago

True but those days are gone on Breaststroke .

PSASwim
Reply to  The unoriginal Tim
9 months ago

If we can ditch the cheating, everyone back to traditional breaststroke, then it is a true competition.

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