How Fast Will Ryan Lochte Swim At U.S. Nationals? GMM presented by SwimOutlet.com

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12-time Olympic medalist Ryan Lochte has been back with his former University of Florida head coach, Gregg Troy, and it’s showing. Lochte’s doing honest work, 8000-9000 meter practices, and he dropped solid swims at the Mel Zajac in Canada:

  • 4:15 – 400 IM
  • 1:58 – 200 IM

Lochte admits he was a little scared of getting back into it with Troy, but Troy set a two-year plan, and it appears to be working.  At age 33, married with a son, and enduring Troy-training, Lochte joked he doesn’t sleep, but the quieter Gainesville family lifestyle may be exactly what he needed. Lochte’s clearly in a good place. The only question is what will it take at U.S. Nationals in Irvine to make a Team USA squad?

I think 4:10.0 makes it in the 400 IM and 1:56.0 makes it in the 200 IM. Lochte should be there by July 25th. What do you think?  Does Lochte make Pan Pacs with those times? Can he swim that fast with a shave, or faster?

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Hswimmer
3 years ago

He’s been 1:59 already this season you think he’ll only be 1:58? I say at least 1:56.9. 400 should be around 4:12.

anonymous
Reply to  Gold Medal Mel Stewart
3 years ago

Really, your body doesn’t slow down much in the 30’s. Masters swimming shows it more like the 50’s for men and women more than the 40’s. This is why Torres could swim elite level in her ealry 40’s,

CollegeSwammer
Reply to  Hswimmer
3 years ago

No, he said that 1:58 was what Lochte went at Mel Zajac. He also said that he believes 1:56 and 4:10 will make it to Pan Pacs, and that he believes Lochte will be able to do that.

tammy touchpad error
Reply to  Hswimmer
3 years ago

I say closer to 1:56 low/ 55 high. I think he might be on a Ervin like level come Tokyo going near best or best times. He is in the right mindset which carries a lot of weight. I’m more interested in his 200 Free for right now. I think he’ll be 1:45 this year and might be good for a 1:44. Also likely a big player at Short Course Worlds with Dressel.

Go Bearcats
Reply to  Gold Medal Mel Stewart
3 years ago

Ervin and Lezak weren’t swimming the 200IM/400IM though…

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Reply to  Go Bearcats
3 years ago

But they weren’t doing 9k practices.

ofs
Reply to  Gold Medal Mel Stewart
3 years ago

A lot of endurance athletes are competing in events that last much longer than 4+ minutes

Togger
Reply to  Go Bearcats
3 years ago

Endurance is, as Mel says, mainly an age thing. Marathon runners are often ex-track runners moving up in distance.

Pro cyclists aren’t treated as Tour de France (and Spain/Italy) contenders until they’re 26/27. The best young rider competition isfor 25 and unders because they don’t have much chance of winning overall!

Horninco
Reply to  tammy touchpad error
3 years ago

His career best is 1:44.44. I have a tough time believing his 200 free will be near that if his 200IM isn’t also near. 1:54.low

tammy touchpad error
Reply to  Horninco
3 years ago

I meant to say on a relay with a start. Think 1:44 flat in 2019 with the 1:54 IM. I really see him doing it. He was too good with Troy in 2011/12 and really didn’t have the 2012 Olympics that he was (over)trained for. He was gonna blow the lid off that 200 IM WR if things had gone differently the first few days.

USA
Reply to  tammy touchpad error
3 years ago

Or if he didn’t have the 200 back less than half an hour before.

IRO
3 years ago

At this point I’d rather see someone new get some experience on the world stage, even if he doesn’t medal or anything. We have a cluster of guys who are pretty good in the 200 IM and might just need the big show to make them really pop. If Lochte earns the spot, more power to him, but this part of the cycle counts for two years. Would rather see someone on the upswing get a shot.

JimSwim
Reply to  Gold Medal Mel Stewart
3 years ago

Devine too

science geek
Reply to  JimSwim
3 years ago

Yes Devine. Seems better long course but still had a great NCAAs. Would be very happy with Lochte as well. Whoever performs best.

Ex Quaker
Reply to  science geek
3 years ago

I think we’re just seeing the breakout of a future long international career for Abrahm.

eagleswim
Reply to  IRO
3 years ago

if they want the experience they’ve got to earn it

marklewis
3 years ago

You can tell a lot about Ryan’s condition from looking at his body.

In 2016, he had some fat hanging over his suit at the Olympic Trials, and his shoulders looked smaller. I knew then he hadn’t done the hard training like 2012. In the 200 IM at Rio, he tried to keep up with Phelps, but totally died in the freestyle.

At Santa Clara this year, he looked pretty fit. His waist was pretty tight. He said that he was training hard and “having fun.”

Gator
Reply to  marklewis
3 years ago

Thank you Coaches!!!

Ol' Longhorn
3 years ago

It’ll be really interesting to see what a mature, optimally trained, reasonable schedule Lochte can do. Not sure we’ve ever seen that. He was a junk food addict in 2008. He was overtrained going into London with all that strongman stuff on the weekends on top of Troy workouts and trying to do insane 200 back-200 IM doubles. Then he backed off in training with Marsh, had the knee injury, and still managed a 4:12 400 IM despite zip training, a groin pull, and one of the most ridiculously poorly split races in history at 2016 OTs. He won’t be trying insane doubles at Nationals, or trying to have 100 free speed to make a relay, so he can really… Read more »

Coach
Reply to  Ol' Longhorn
3 years ago

100% on point

Hswimmer
Reply to  Ol' Longhorn
3 years ago

Made me re think, so true!! Forgot about the pulled groin at trials. Who knows how fast he can really go now training like he used to

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3 years ago

Can you lower the music? It’s a little hard to hear Ryan.

Pvdh
3 years ago

Lochte and Dressel talking about how easy 8 50s on 4 would be for Caeleb at the beginning talking about the shootout… Troy must have his pros swimming insane yards

Dudeman
Reply to  Pvdh
3 years ago

There’s a video on Instagram of Lochte dying at the end of a LCM 20×400 set a few weeks ago, and Florida has a reputation for being a massive yardage program. I’m sure Caeleb does equivalent sets and some pretty big sprint/IM sets as well

ERVINFORTHEWIN
Reply to  Dudeman
3 years ago

Those 2 training together must be a huge booster for everybody there …i love this combination . They are gonna be super ready for trials and Pan Pacs …..

Lpman
3 years ago

I’m going to be bold and predict dressel swims 200 IM, so I think it will take a sub 156 to make it in the IM with Dressel, Kalisz being sub 156, and prenot and Devine and maybe licon in 156 area. So, I dont think Lochte will have a sub 156 in him this summer.

In the 400 IM, I think Kalisz and Litherland are sub 410s, and I dont think Lochte will have that in him either.

I think he would need a 146.50 or faster to earn a 4 x 200 birth. I think some may doubt his relay swims, especially when you consider his anchor leg in 4 x 100 in London and his average 4… Read more »

tammy touchpad error
Reply to  Lpman
3 years ago

Was a 47.7 anchor not good enough? Better than Feigen adding a full second in 2013 then having the audacity to get a medal in the individual.

ERVINFORTHEWIN
Reply to  tammy touchpad error
3 years ago

that 100 free anchor was the best he could do at that point – its Agnel that was freakingly fast ( 46.6 !!!!!! ) that won the race – and not by much if we watch again .

Ol' Longhorn
Reply to  ERVINFORTHEWIN
3 years ago

He was also coming off the 400 IM final and medal ceremony (Phelps didn’t medal, and some would say quit on it, so had the extra warmdown time) with only the 100 fly semis in between.

Lpman
Reply to  Ol' Longhorn
3 years ago

Your saying a guy that was at the pinnacle of his career couldn’t recover after one race?

ERVINFORTHEWIN
Reply to  Ol' Longhorn
3 years ago

Yeah , u are so right . Lochte was actually pretty monstrous considering his grueling schedule .

CanadianShark
Reply to  Ol' Longhorn
3 years ago

The men’s 400 IM final was actually the day before the men’s 4 x 100 free relay. I suppose you could chalk it up to Locate partying the night before with his gold medal win.

Ol' Longhorn
Reply to  CanadianShark
3 years ago

Yeah, you’re right on the event schedule. I just remember he had no break between a race and the relay. He was coming off the prelims and semis of the 200 free that day. Had only the men’s 100 breast final between 200 free semis and the relay. Sure, it didn’t hurt Angel, but then he didn’t have a day’s worth of 400 IMs under his belt.

Lpman
Reply to  tammy touchpad error
3 years ago

I disagree vehemently. He split a 47.00 at 2009 worlds. I understand that was the tech suit era, but he was performing better in 2011 and 2012 without the tech suit

ERVINFORTHEWIN
Reply to  Lpman
3 years ago

He was super fast in that 2009 relay , in second behind Phelps .

Ol' Longhorn
Reply to  Lpman
3 years ago

If Licon does a 1:56, David Nolan should make a comeback. No way that’s happening. Licon has shown his LCM hand, and it’s not a good one.

sven
Reply to  Lpman
3 years ago

I’m still not sure what to think of Dressel in a LCM 200 IM. He always tapers like a monster, though, so I’m sure he could contend for top 2. What place he gets in the 200 IM at Nationals depends on how much he rests for it, since he could go for a three day drop and still make the team in the 50/100 free and 100 fly. That would allow him to save his full taper for Pan Pacs and do the 200 IM there.

With that in mind, I wouldn’t be surprised if Lochte beats Dressel in the 200 IM at Nationals because Troy rests Lochte more. What happens at Pan Pacs is anyone’s guess, but I’m… Read more »

iLikePsych
3 years ago

It’s great seeing Dressel hang with Lochte, but at the same time I almost want to tell him to keep away from Lochte and his nonsense.

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Reply to  iLikePsych
3 years ago

Care to tell me what nonsense you speak of?

Ol' Longhorn

On today’s scale of news events, the Rio incident wouldn’t even be considered nonsense. Timing is everything.

Togger
Reply to  iLikePsych
3 years ago

The “nonsense” of being married with a young kid?

Lochte did an incredibly dumb thing in Rio and, yes, he’s not going to threaten Ledecky’s SAT score, but generally I think a lot of the things he did were good self promotion and brought wider coverage the sport needs.

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MEL STEWART Jr., aka Gold Medal Mel, won three Olympic medals at the 1992 Olympic Games. Mel's best event was the 200 butterfly. He is a former World, American, and NCAA Record holder in the 200 butterfly. As a writer/producer and sports columnist, Mel has contributed to Yahoo Sports, Universal Sports, …

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