Michigan, Eastern Michigan to Shoot For Unusual Records in 20-Yard Dual

  33 Braden Keith | January 10th, 2013 | College, Featured, News

Mike Bottom has never shied away from trying for some creativity. When his Michigan Wolverines take on the Eastern Michigan Eagles on Friday at the Canham Natatorium, the pool might feel a little short. That’s because it, in fact, will be a little short. The course will be set up at 20 yards long.

Check out the event schedule for Friday (which will roll into a more traditional 25-yard meet against Purdue on Saturday).

SCHEDULE OF EVENTS

Friday, Jan. 11
160-yard Medley Relay
500-yard Freestyle
40-yard Freestyle
100-yard Breaststroke
200-yard Backstroke
100-yard Butterfly
100-yard Freestyle
200-yard Breaststroke
40-yard Backstroke
200-yard Butterfly
200-yard Individual Medley
200-yard Freestyle
40-yard Breaststroke
100-yard Backstroke
40-yard Butterfly
160-yard Freestyle Relay

After some research, the Michigan staff rolled all the way back to the 1967 AAU Record Books, the last to show 20-yard records (which they had confirmed with the International Swimming Hall of Fame). One would imagine that most, if not all, of those records will be crushed.

1967 certainly wasn’t the last time races were swum in a 20 yard pool, however. During summer league meets in Suburban Chicago, there was one team in the league that still used the shorter distance that was once more standard, leading to some interesting conversion factors. If anyone has swum in this length of a pool before and has times (that they can prove), leave them in the comments and we will see how those stack up to what the Wolverines do tomorrow.

Bottom has confirmed that they will be enforcing the same 15-meter underwater rule as we see in a normal college meet. The last time there was any meets of any serious competition in a 20-yard pool, this rule wasn’t in place. Expect about two strokes per length in many of the races.

Expect even the races that come out to the same distance (for example, a 100 yard free) to be much faster over 20 yards because of the extra turn (5 lengths instead of 4). This meet could be a lot of fun to watch for those who are fans of the dolphin kick.

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33 Comments on "Michigan, Eastern Michigan to Shoot For Unusual Records in 20-Yard Dual"


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swmdoc
3 years 8 months ago

Great idea Mike! Brings back memories of 1960’s YMCA swimming! I would love to have those 20 yd. records published !

Ellenk
3 years 8 months ago

That sounds fun. If I recall correctly, the University of Chicago used to have a 20-yard pool (late 90s). I swam in the same conference and our meets there weren’t held at the university.

CB
3 years 8 months ago

Oh yeah, the U of C (my alma mater) had a 20-yard pool up until 2003, when we finally got a lovely 50-meter pool, just in time for my senior year there. I had just moved from Florida, where big outdoor pools are a dime a dozen, and suddenly I was confronted with this basement 20-yard, two-lane pool. It was depressing.

Balding Eagle
3 years 8 months ago

Hmmm, I must know you. I was the coach at UC the year Ratner Center opened. I never saw Bartlett or Ida with water in them.

CB
3 years 8 months ago

Are you George? I never swam on the team (I was a bit burned out from high school, and I was never fast anyway), but I took your lifeguard training class my senior year.

Balding Eagle
3 years 8 months ago

Yes

Ellen
3 years 8 months ago

Two lanes? Depresssing, indeed. The new pool looks awesome, though. Glad you at least got one year in it!

Where were the meets held prior to the new pool? I am trying to remember and coming up blank.

CB
3 years 8 months ago

The new pool is amazing. The wall full of windows lets in a lot of sunlight and makes it feel a little bit like an outdoor pool. Just a little bit. I lived a block away from it my last year and got in a lot of pool time.

I never swam on the team, but one of my best friends who did says they just never had home meets.

Peter
3 years 8 months ago

A few thousand years ago (early 70’s) our high school pool was 4 lanes, 20 yards. We swam 60’s instead of 40s, but 160 on the relay and IM. There was no sprint relay back then. Just the 400 Free relay at the end. Can’t say I remember what the pool records were back then, though.

Peter
3 years 8 months ago

I do remember that there were 83 points on offer in a four lane high school meet. (diving was included). We won a number of meets 42-41 because our coach could always find that one more third place swim that nobody expected.

Coach GB
3 years 8 months ago

Go one step further with a 220 and 440 free which was also swum in 25 yd pool with a flag finish until touch pads required going to the wall and then came 500. Used to be 220 of strokes at Nat.s with flag finish. Close equivalent of meters SC. There were WR in them.

Steve Schaffer
3 years 8 months ago

Yep. The old UCLA Men’s Gym pool (before any of the facelifts that came in the 80s and later) was a 33 1/3 yard pool and had plates on the deck indicating the “finish lines” for the 220 and 440 events.

Bill
3 years 8 months ago

#1 team vs #25 according to the latest polls on collegeswimming.com!

peeterdeeter aka mr incredulous
3 years 8 months ago

#1 team what? Certainly you don’t mean swim team. Ha. Haha. Maybe their snow fight team could be #1

WIWI
3 years 8 months ago

curious,
are they making their own custom 20y lane lines?
are there correct markings on the bottom of the pool?

Kyle
3 years 8 months ago

Custom lane lines? No. You can adjust lane lines to whatever length you want (although it’s a boooring process). Wouldn’t be surprised if Bottom kept some shorter lines around for turns practices anyway. Lord knows there are enough spools of lane lines tucked away at Canham.

3 years 8 months ago

DANGIT. I was so close to going to this meet…

3 years 8 months ago

Nice style sticks (pictured) 😉

3 years 8 months ago

I was at Cal for three years when Mike was coaching there. Some of our favorite days involved moving the bulkhead to 15 meters to practice starts and turns.

Sandusky Swimming
3 years 8 months ago

Our Sandusky, Ohio Jackson Junior High pool was built in early 1920. It is a 6 lane 20 yard pool. The High School team competed there from 1921-1956, and the Junior High teams competed there until 1999. The pool still has records posted and is still in operation today, although no competitions are held.

Joe Hutchinson
3 years 8 months ago

Wichita Kansas still has a few 20 yard pools at their high school. We just had a meet in one tonight, in fact. Be careful on those longer races. The turns come at you do fast it seems easy to get dizzy!

3 years 8 months ago

How does the 200 yard IM work? Shouldn’t it be a 160 yard IM?

Jeremy Cohen
3 years 8 months ago

My high school had (and still has) a 20 yard pool. In 1966, I set a pool record for the 100 free of 50.6. I have photographic evidence of the record board which used to be on the wall of the pool. The record board was taken down when the school was renamed and as far as I know, my record has been tied, but never broken.

I’m sure that there were other high school swimmers nationally who would have gone faster, but they didn’t live in my home state of Rhode Island.

Jeremy Cohen
3 years 8 months ago

p.s. we swam the 60 yard free as well the 100, 200 and 400.
fly back and breast only swam 100’s.
The IM was of course a 160 and the relays were 160 medley and the beginning of the meet and 400 free at the end.

For a while, I held pool records in the 60 and 100 at my school and also at another school. A third school had a 20 meter pool and I held pool records there in the 60 and 100 meter frees.

Somewhere I have newspaper clippings with all this info, if anyone wants to see them.

Peter
3 years 8 months ago

20 METER pool? That’s just weird!

jeantuehl
3 years 8 months ago

I’m just glad I went to IU and don’t have to deal with this ridiculous MIchigan stuff. Go IU!!

cynthiacurran
3 years 8 months ago

Yorba Linda California and Tustin California had 20 yard pools. Yorba Linda was not that old at the time built in 1969. I think I read the high school now has 25 yards by 30 meters. The Tustin pool is no longer in use since it had a novice team Tustin Meadows and a swim school that if out of business.

cynthiacurran
3 years 8 months ago

The 1960’s was the era where most of the swim pools in Orange County California were built since this was before Prop 13 and you could built a pool at every campus and this was the most student population growth since a lot of folks moved from the Midwest and so forth. A lot of 25 yard pools at the high school campus and 50 meter pools at two of the community colleges Cypress which use to have an age group team as well and Golden West which has had a college and age group team for many years.

EMUSwim
3 years 8 months ago

GO EAGLES! Don’t be surprised if it’s not only U of M swimmers breaking records at this dual meet.

3 years 8 months ago

Go MEEEEEECHIGAN!!! Go Coach Bottom!!!!

Go Blue!!!!

Larry Day
U of M Flyer ’73

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