Today on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss the Pro Swim in Indianapolis, Chinese Nationals, and the new *new* NCAA Championship meet format.
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we discuss the Pro Swim in Indianapolis, Chinese Nationals, and the new *new* NCAA Championship meet format. Current photo via Jack Spitser/Spitser Photography
Calendar Year 2026
USA Swimming
World Records
Women’s 50 meter freestyle – KD
Women’s 100 meter butterfly – GW
As for the Aussie women …… [crickets].
If Mike Grella from the CBS Sports Golazo Network did not enough provide enough trolling material to upset the Aussies, here is more fuel to the fire. If one word set enough an entire nation, imagine what two World Records in swimming has done.
lol, Aussie here… big G doing 100 fly is peak cinema. We absolutely love it, it’s so good for the sport. I’m actually a fan of the US women’s medley relay, I want to see what insanity they can achieve. At the same time I’m cheering so hard for Kaylee in the backstrokes. It’s a healthy rivalry and respect. It isn’t poison.
The official time is electronic time from start to touchpad. The video is not part of the timing system nor is it precisely synched to the timing. Furthermore if there is a problem with the timing system that can be investigated and determined.
I get that.
However, what’s weird is that other races seem to have the video synced up to the timing system, but the women’s 50 does not.
I would think it would be the same way all the time, but maybe not.
Give it up, already.
Sheesh!
I think you have been repeating the same things. I did exactly what you said to stop the clock mutiple time and on my end showing her hand almost touch at 23.5 and touch at 23.59 so maybe variations on the different display that’s why they have modern timing system and I am pretty sure they already validate especially at the scale of a word record.
When I watch YouTube video of Van Mathias 100 breast race with slow playback speed, the final time shows up on screen before he touches the wall. Probably a video delay due to switching from underwater view back to regular view in the last 10 meters.
I think the weirdest thing is all swimmers in that final swam super fast, relative to their performances in other events. All top three set PBs, althought they didn’t get very close to PBs in other events. Huske went a huge seasonal best in 50 free while dropping 57 highs in 100 fly.
Douglass swam her best 200 IM since Paris. Walsh was 0.03 off her 50 back from March and swam the 5th-fastest 100 fly of all-time. Moesch PB’ed 100 fly and 200 IM and went 52-high and 52-low in the 100 free. Huske’s 53.0 was her fastest since last summer and her 200 IM was her best since 2024.
What on earth are you talking about?
And to add, when Sjostrom set the 23.61 WR, Jack and Zhang PBed and Weitzeil SBed. It’s so weird. When fast swimmers get into a fast pool with other fast swimmers, they swim fast.
Stop this nonsense!
Ugh yes, because the distance at which the video is taken makes it difficult to perfectly discern her hand underwater – as it does with all races, you have to use other context clues like length of her arm, the length of previous strokes into the wall, the distance of her head from the wall to discern that it’s absolutely plausible and imo undeniable that she touched in 23.59.
For anyone else who needs to see this and does not know how to frame-nudge on Youtube, use the “.” and “,” buttons to nudge forward and backward.
- Pause the USA Swimming Youtube race video when the clock is at 23.4.
- Nudge the clock from 23.4 forward to 23.5
- Two clicks
… Read more »thanks for your analysis and explanation
and now we know how to advance a you tube race frame by frame with the “.” button
you have confirmed the WR timing !!
Nice. It is clear that what at work here is a phenomenal swimmer, having a great day in a fast pool.
31 mins on Indy meet and only spoke about one female performance (WR so you had to) with 95 percent of the time only highlighting male swim performances.
What was so great about the times in the M 800 FR? It was not worthy of discussion.
honestly yeah … kinda sad about the lack of stadden and berkoff talk in the past few breakdowns when they have been on fire
Agree. I tried to post something around this for the last breakdown and it never went up. But there is a significant lack of balance and a tendency to spend much more time on US men’s swimming performances than women during these podcasts, and to also make statements about the state of US swimming as a whole based on the men rather than differentiate between the two.
I think Deriveaux is headed to Austin in the fall. Posted a photo but it had the “soon” emoji and then the hook em emoji next to it
👀
I’m not a conspiracy guy, but has anyone looked closely at the 50 WR swim?
I was just told to watch the finish, and it doesn’t look like Douglass is touching the wall when the clock stops at 23.59.
I don’t know how to insert a picture, but I have a pretty clear picture of the clock stopped and her hand not on the wall.
I then thought maybe that’s how the timing system looks since I’ve never really looked this closely at a finish vs where the clock is at. So I looked at 3 other 50 events, and all of them look legit – very different than Douglass’s 50.
I’d like others to take a look and see… Read more »
Does the distance from Walsh make sense with time? Should be possible to compute.
I didn’t pay much attention to Walsh, but it looked like the 0.2 sec difference between the two looks accurate.
What surprised me is that when I looked at the finishes vs the clock on other 50 events, they all looked like the winner’s hand touched the wall when the clock stopped, and that is not what I’m not seeing on Douglass’s finish.
I don’t have the technology to slow down the video frame by frame, but I’m sure some people on here do.
I’m not saying there was any funny business going on, but what I’m seeing is odd.
I have also pointed out that all 16 swimmers in the women’s 50 free (A and B heats) improved their times in the final, which seems extremely uncommon for such a short race.
don’t know how accurate this is?
but I tried hand timing with two different stopwatches ( not a desorbo model lol )
and multiple attempts I am getting results about 0.2 slower than official time ouch?
(gretchen’s hand touch is easier to see)
maybe someone else with better reflexes than mine can try
I don’t see what you see. Slowed it down, the time makes sense. I think the water is obscuring the last part of the arm.
I stopped it when the clock shows 23.59 and it’s pretty clear to me that her hand isn’t on the wall, even factoring in the angle and water. I had to pause the video a bunch of times to get it at the right spot.
Does anyone know how to upload a picture? If I can do that, then you can see what I’m seeing.
I see what you mean. I’m kinda thinking it might be similar to what happened with MP in 2008.
Maybe but I remember that situation being that Cavic touched the wall first (at least it appeared that way), but his fingers didn’t push the pad hard enough to register it. Phelps, on the other hand, touched hard, and although it looked like he was just a bit behind Cavic, the force on his finish registered the pads ahead of Cavic.
From what I’m seeing here, her hand isn’t anywhere near the way at 23.59.
are we back on the EGs pixel peeping now?
I thought people had decent reasons for why that might have looked sketchy but been legit, like a delay b/w the on screen time bug and the video feed
I’m sure there is a logical explaination here, however, when I looked at other 50 events at Indy, they all appeared to look legit, while this one doesn’t.
Someone brought it to my attention who’s in the swimming world, so my guess is that someone told him about it. I don’t coach anymore, and I’m generally curious, so I don’t mind posting about it. But my first thought was the enhanced games mens 50. The difference is that the enhanced games legitimacy has always been questioned, while you wouldn’t think that about the Indy Pro Series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt7zW2CNFWs
Someone did say 16/16 ofthe swimmers in the 50 dropped time from prelims or something liek that
Yes that peaked my interest. So so many PBs in that race, more than any other race I think.
Piqued your interest, not “peaked” your interest, you QAnon monsters.
sorry. genuine mistake.
Yes. I don’t think the clock analysis means too much, but it does feel strange that all swimmers in that final swam super fast relative to their performances in other events. I thought about it almost immediately after that race.
It’s also interesting that this happens a lot in 50m races. The other example is men’s 50 back at 2022 US trials. Armstrong broke the world record. Ress went sub-24. Casas came very close to breaking the barrier at 24.00. They all went huge PBs that they never got super close to again.
I thought it might be tail wind or something. I thought about the same after the women’s 50 free at Indy.
and how many MPH tailwind do you expect indoors ?
any two foot waves at the finish line ?
Pretty sure he means “current” in the pool.
Who benefits? With the enhanced games as they were trying to market their products to sell to people, there was a benefit for the corporation if world records are broken. Who benefits here?
Team USA’s overall prestige? The first American woman to hold the LC 50 free record since 1984?
I don’t think he’s claiming that this was intentionally done. Sometimes timing systems have glitches. The first time I heard about something like this was with Liberty.
https://swimswam.com/daktronics-releases-statement-on-mis-timing-at-isca-jr-national-cup/
Seeing that this was a 50, perhaps something happened with the starting system at the start end of the 50s that evening. Or perhaps everything was legit.
Stop the silly conspiracy theories. It leads to things like our current president.
If someone can tell me how to post pictures, I have 4 in succession that make it pretty clear her hand isn’t on the wall when the clock stopped at 23.59.
I said from the beginning I’m sure there’s a good explanation for it but no one has been able to say anything other than they don’t see what I see.
It’s just odd that the other 50s show the hand touching when the clocks stops and the women’s 50 doesn’t.
post it on twitter
I don’t have twitter.
The clock and the video that aren’t linked to each other in any definitive way? Did you test the frame rate against the video playback rate on your phone?
I don’t know how to do that. If you know how, though, let me know what you come up with.
Make sure to wear your tin foil hat.
Indianapolis can now return the TAC Titans timing apparatus.
Satisfied?