Stanford Hires Scott Armstrong as Men’s Assistant

  85 Braden Keith | July 17th, 2012 | College, Featured, News

After a long wait, the Stanford Cardinal have announced the hiring of their men’s assistant coach in the form of Scott Armstrong, sources who asked to remain anonymous have told us. The decision was announced to the team on Tuesday afternoon. Armstrong has previously held many roles within the North Baltimore Aquatic Club program, best known as the homes of superstars Michael Phelps, Allison Schmitt, and their coach Bob Bowman.

Armstrong’s is not a name immediately recognizable to many casual swim fans, but he’s well-known within the core of the community. He has served on several Junior National coaching staffs, including as the women’s head coach of the 2010 Junior Pan Pac team. Working heavily with high-school swimmers, he was the coach of record for Junior National Team swimmers like Drew Cosgarea, who will be a sophomore next year at Stanford, and Bryan Offutt who will be a junior next season for the Cardinal.

Much of his work of late has been developing distance swimmers, but prior to joining the staff at NBAC, he was the sprint coach for his alma mater John’s Hopkins. Armstrong himself was a star distance swimmer at John’s Hopkins from 1999-2003, and at one point held the Division III NCAA Record in the 1650 free.

Armstrong will take over the spot vacated when Ted Knapp was promoted to the head coach of the men’s team after the retirement of long-time head coach Skip Kenney.

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Chest Rockwell
4 years 10 days ago

You guys have good sources, this wasn’t supposed to go out until tomorrow!

This is an excellent hire for the Stanford Men. He spent 10 years at NBAC and worked closely with both Murray and Bob – I would imagine he learned a few things there. Don’t forget, Scott also helped develop Chase Kalisz and Austin Surhoff, so he has a great track record in developing high level IM’ers besides distance freestylers. He brings great perspective and maturity beyond his years to the deck. Congrats to the Cardinal and Scott.

PAINTRAIN
4 years 10 days ago

Great hire by Stanford. To me, Armstrong may be the best NBAC coach because of his versatility- he’s had success with a lot of different athletes. This marks the conclusion of a significant revitalization of Stanford’s coaching staff- it looks like things are looking very positive for the Cardinal. With the Stanford talent pool, and this admittedly very good coaching staff, I hope we’ll see some surprises at NCAAs from Stanny.

THEFEASTISMINE
4 years 10 days ago

Stanford has never had trouble picking up top recruits. I would assume that will still be the case. Picking up an assistant coach known for developing fast swimmers could take some of the top high schoolers to new heights.

Steve
4 years 10 days ago

Pretty awesome. I’ve gotten to know Scott over the past couple of years and could not be more happy for him. I think Stanford will be a fantastic fit for him and am excited to see what he can and Ted can do over the next couple of years. Scott’s personality, in my opinion, seems to be a perfect compliment to Ted’s. Here’s to a new Stanford!

Jcoach
4 years 10 days ago

I wonder if – with Scott’s influence – Stanford Swimming puts more emphasis on the long course/national/international swimming scene.

Dinosaur
4 years 10 days ago

That’s a very real possibility, I would reckon. Along those same lines, I wonder whether there’s been any discussion of a more serious post-grad program at Stanford

bigdog07
4 years 10 days ago

I think it would be hard for the Cardinal to form a legitimate post graduate team. Despite having some of the best facilities in the country, the cost of living is high, there never has been a strong contingency of post graduates to train with Stanford, and the coaches are relatively unproven. The international success was a while ago and most post graduates go with the new and best thing. This was not meant to be a knock on Ted Knapp or Scott Armstrong.

PALYPIE
4 years 10 days ago

Maybe give it a few years. The cost of living issue will still be there, but if Ted and Scott prove themselves and become the new best thing, you could definitely form a core group of Stanford grads who like the coaching and are used to the cost of living. Stanford had 15-20 alums at Trials. That group could form a nucleus for growing a program beyond just alumni.

bigdog07
4 years 10 days ago

The cost of living is a huge problem to have. Palo Alto and the surrounding areas (minus East Palo Alto) are some of the most expensive places to live in the country and it is not like you are dealing with a sport that gets paid well; we’re talking about swimming here with post graduates scrounging to barely get by.

You may be right about Ted and Scott. They could very easily become the next big thing in swimming and only time will tell. Personally, I’d put my money on the other side of the Bay with Cal. Despite a slightly down Olympic Trials, they still have a large contingency at the Olympics and they have won the past two NCAAs.

Which Stanford alumni were at US Trials?
-Eugene Godsoe
-John Criste
-Alexander Coville
-Randall Bal
-Bernard Johnson
-Egan Gans
Of those post graduates, three seemingly live in the area and two choose to represent PASA while Alexander Coville swam for Stanford

Stanfordfacts
4 years 9 days ago

Which Stanford alumni were at US Trials?
-Eugene Godsoe
-John Criste
-Alexander Coville
-Randall Bal
-Bernard Johnson
-Egan Gans

Also:
-Nate Cass
-Andy Grant
-Bobby Bollier
-Chad La Tourette
-Hongze Sun
-David Mosko
-Curtis Lovelace
-Austin Staab
-Sabir Muhammud (not sure if he was there)
-Jake Allen

*yes I do consider those seniors that graduated that year as post-grads since technically they had graduated and stayed at Stanford to train for the summer.

and don’t forget the Dunford brothers that have been training there and a couple others I am sure.

question?
4 years 9 days ago

Did Chad La Tourette or Austin Staab actually graduate? I remember watching a video on Chad La Tourette saying that he went home for the quarter after NCAAs to train at Mission Viejo.

The other seniors on your list, did they really have a choice to leave and go home for the summer? I did research and Stanford’s commencement was June 17th. Trials started on June 25th. Take into account travel plans and being at the meet a day or two in advance, would it be worth it for them to leave and go home to train for all of four or five days?

Waterballer
4 years 9 days ago

I think Chad La Tourette has one more quarter to complete before graduating in the fall, since he chose to train at home for what would have been his last quarter at Stanford.

letmegetthisstraight
4 years 9 days ago

So no, Chad is technically not a post grad, but he has completed his eligibility.

Tea
4 years 9 days ago

Also, Stanford grads have a Stanford degree. Many of them have multiple grad school or job offers. It’s tough to get them to put those opportunities on hold for a few years, unless they are really strong Olympic candidates.

BlackSwan
4 years 9 days ago

Maybe so, but in that case- who do you want on your post-grad team? Really strong Olympic candidates… or a bunch of random postgrads who have National cuts? The majority of post-grad programs have a couple elite athletes, and a bunch of people who are trying to get there but never really do. If you keep the grain and lose the chaff, no big deal…

Chad is graduating in the fall. I don’t know about Staab- last spring would have been his senior year, so perhaps. Alumni who were not affected by final exams/commencement:

Criste
Godsoe
Coville
Bal
Johnson
Gans
Cass
Grant
Sun
Mosko
Staab
Allen
Brede Kelsrud
Kyle Ransom
Josh Charnin-Aker
Elaine Breeden
There may be more women’s team alumni.

Not at US Trials, but post-graduates who trained for their Trials or the Olympics:

David Dunford
Jason Dunford
Philip Morrison
Paul Kornfeld

There are probably more that I am missing.

So yes, there are plenty of people who probably would train post-graduate at Stanford and do keep training that have the choice to stay or not (at least 20, not including recent graduates). As for now, a lot of these people did not stay. In a different situation, many of them might. They might take jobs and train, like Dave Dunford. They might get their PhD and train, like BJ Johnson. But they still train and would likely be a part of a post-graduate group if the appropriate opportunity in Palo Alto arose.

sidenote
4 years 9 days ago

You seem to know a lot about the swimmers that are at Stanford. You know that Bernard Johnson is going for a PhD and that Dave Dunford has a job and trains on the side, but you don’t know if Austin Staab graduated or not? That is slightly ridiculous.

You forgot to add in Markus Rogan and Tobias Oriwol to you list. A

You are proving that Stanford has post graduate swimmers that swim at the Olympic Trials, not that they are Olympic candidates. Of the post graduates that you listed, how many were Olympic candidates? Eight (John Criste/Alex Coville/Eugene Godsoe/Bernard Johnson/Jason Dunford/David Dunford/Markus Rogan/Tobias Oriwol)?

Of the post graduate list that live in the Bay Area, which ones would have trained with Ted? Of those that would have trained with Ted, how many made the choice to train elsewhere?

Allanjurovich
4 years 9 days ago

He graduated from Stanford though.

blackswan
4 years 8 days ago

Well, Mr. Sidenote, I’m not omniscient. I happen to swim masters in the area and be a fan of Stanford swimming- I’ve met a few of the guys and know what they are doing. I do not know all lot them.

As far as your other comments, my OP was confusing. I had 2 separate points. A) if Stanford just had 5-7 real Olympic candidates such as those you listed in a post-grad group, it would still be a strong group. B) Stanford has a LOT of post-grads who still swim who could form a large post-grad group if they chose to stay in Palo Alto.

blackswan
4 years 8 days ago

As far as who would have stayed, I haven’t a clue. Probably the more relevant question is who on the team over the next 4 years will want to keep swimming and will be a legitimate Olympic candidate, and can they attract old alumni back or other swimmers to Palo Alto. And an even more relevant question that makes this all huge speculation is whether the coaches or the team even want a post-grad group.

sidenote
4 years 8 days ago

By looking at their roster, they had 33 swimmers this past year and assuming they have a similar class coming in, they are looking to have around 33-35 swimmers.

That is a lot of work to be handling microcycles, macrocycles, dryland, and everything else for several completely different groups. Take for example the aforementioned group of 8 swimmers. They represent 4 nationalities. Depending on the year, they might have completely different meets that they would focus on (America-Pan Pacificss Kenya-African Championship/Pan Pacifics Austria-European Championships Canada-Pan Pacifics) with the qualification meets at different times of the year. Couple that with the full season planning that is necessary for a successful college season and the two coaches would have their hands full. That is not to say that Ted and Scott can’t do it, but it sure would be hard.

Time will be the true test as to whether or not the coaches will take on post grads. Everything seems to be changing up now. Some of the hot bed schools for post grad training are being disbanded and some are now making swimmers sign contract to ensure they stay through the Olympiad. It is quite possible that a school not known for post grads like Stanford would all of a sudden take on a contingency.

Scarface
4 years 8 days ago

I think that the main issue for Stanford having a post-grad group is just what Tea mentioned: most of these guys are going to graduate in four years and get a job. Any post grad team has to start with the alumni, as it is fairly unlikely that a large group of random swimmers are going to want to come and join in with a college team full of guys they don’t know. When you have a choice between a solid salary or scraping by for three years on the off hand chance you make the team, the choice is pretty easy.

THE DUDE
4 years 10 days ago

A great pickup for Stanford swimming. Armstrong has experienced coaching success on both the club and collegiate level, and I expect this to continue at Stanford. It’ll be interesting to see what he and Ted can do with some dynamite IMers in Thompson, Nolan, Cosgerea, Lane, and more. Best of luck to Scott!

SOCALSwim38
4 years 10 days ago

Looks to be a great hire. This change could bring Stanford back to the dominance we have seen in the past. Scott can now take over the distance crew and it looks like Ted will continue with coaching the sprinters. Good Luck to Stanford.

McNugget
4 years 10 days ago

I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions yet. Scott has proved his versatility as a coach, and who knows whether or not Ted’s been given the chance to develop non-sprinters. I’m predicting big changes in the structure of the Stanford program, most likely for the better

IronCaptain
4 years 10 days ago

Scott will be a very positive addition to Stanford Swimming. He’ll breathe new life into the program. I’m seeing a bright future for the Cardinal! Cal fans beware

really?
4 years 10 days ago

Stanford can go ahead and win the dual meet and PAC-12s. Cal will win NCAAs. Again. For the third time.

alanjerkowitz
4 years 10 days ago

i understand what you’re saying, but you’re wrong.

CigarLover
4 years 10 days ago

Stanford’s never had a problem bringing in talent, and this coaching change should only help with recruiting. I don’t know Scott, but I’ve heard he’s a great guy with lots of energy

DibsDibsDibs
4 years 10 days ago

I’ll be sad to see Scott leave NBAC. But good luck to him at Stanford!

Jcoach
4 years 10 days ago

Pretty sure he’s been gone for a year.

Lenny
4 years 10 days ago

It looks as if Stanford has poised itself to do great things. I would imagine that the combination of Ted and Scott should bring a new found attitude and success for the Cardinal that will be evident on an individual and team basis. It will certainly be a new chapter in the storied history of Stanford Men’s swimming and based on the ingredients and resources it could be pretty darn special.

THE DUDE
4 years 10 days ago

The guy in the photo sure is handsome.

ADunne
4 years 10 days ago

he would look better with a mustache

happybirthday
4 years 10 days ago

Happy birthday Alex Dunne.

i
4 years 9 days ago

I’m guessing that he wanted to be clean-shaven because he was trying to swim fast at his swimming competition. Men even shave their whole bodies!

BigChocolate
4 years 10 days ago

I don’t know much about Scott Armstrong, but if he was selected over who knows how many other applicants he must have some great contributions to give to the cardinal. Hard to predict what will happen next but seems like Stanford has a bright future. Guess we’ll have to wait and see.

joeb
4 years 10 days ago

he is?

Darksided
4 years 10 days ago

Defintely a good move on Stanford’s part. Interested to see what happens

Nick
4 years 10 days ago

Great to hear the news! Anyone knew who else was interviewed?

Mace
4 years 10 days ago

This is an excellent choice for Stanford. Certainly an outsider but sure to give the program a breath of fresh air. Great choice!

LETSFACEIT
4 years 10 days ago

This could be the shot in the arm(strong) that Stanford needed. With Ted as head coach and a brand new assistant coach, there is a strong possibility that Stanford has a shot at winning next year. With so much talent on the team, Cal should be worried.

rollonyoubears
4 years 10 days ago

A distance/IM coach probably won’t help Stanford get better. They are already good at the 400IM/500/1650. If Stanford were smart, they would take the Auburn approach and completely scratch the distance program and focus on the sprints. There are 3 distance events.

Darksided
4 years 9 days ago

That’s actually a good idea. Everyone should take the auburn approach.

joeb
4 years 9 days ago

Stanford is already better than Auburn…why take that approach?

observation
4 years 9 days ago

Auburn of old. Cal of today. Dave Durden is the carry over.

Psychic
4 years 9 days ago

If Stanford people were smart, they would follow Auburn.

TRUTHIS
4 years 9 days ago

If Stanford students were smarter, they definitely would have gone to Auburn.

ChickenBroth
4 years 9 days ago

Well, since Ted is the head coach now, presumably they will take that approach more. And more so, I think you shouldn’t really scratch any events, as the ultimate goal of competition is to win all of the events. Moreover, since Stanford has to make do with who they can recruit based on intelligence, and they get a fair number of 400IMers, 500 freestylers, and milers, it would be kind of stupid as well as mean to just let those guys rot and not help them improve and score.

Swimmer 2
4 years 9 days ago

Wasn’t Armstrong a sprint coach at Johns Hopkins (a pretty good D3 swimming school) before going to NBAC? He’s got some sprint coaching background. That, and the Stanford guys might actually have a beneficial dryland program this year.

SoCalMamba
4 years 9 days ago

This hire has already invigorated the social media world. It was made public before Stanford could announce it, it sparked several comments on this board and it resulted in several tweets from big names in the swimming world. If the rest of the swimming world is already talking about this move with this significant amount of excitement, I can only imagine how fired up the guys in Palo Alto are/will be when they get back to campus. That said, the biggest change will be the environmental change in the locker room. Ted can handle sprinters, especially with full control of the program(he was on the 08 Olympic team with Wildman-Tobriner). I’m assuming this guy is smart, although Johns Hopkins isn’t Auburn, so he should be able to adapt to each swimmer’s needs. He has the former colleagues and contacts to draw upon for help. He can help Stanford recruit on the east coast, if they needed any help. Finally, based on the Bear comments on this board, he’s got a lot of the Boys in Berkeley paying attention. Nicely done, Stanford.

ADunne
4 years 9 days ago

So exciting, I should blog about this on my blog!

Swimfan
4 years 8 days ago

Scott will be able to tap into the pipeline of NBAC swimmers for sure. Maybe after this Olympics, Michael Phelps can come to Stanford to be volunteer assistant coach! 🙂

CanadianWedding
4 years 9 days ago

I am interested to see how this will affect Stanford’s recruiting class this year- while change in a program always has the potential of bringing negative effects, I have to imagine the stability that Ted provides with the addition of a fun young guy to the program may reap the rewards for Stanford come signing day.

Bullddoze
4 years 9 days ago

I don’t know why everyone is expecting massive changes at Stanford. Ted is a continuation of Skip (he worked for the guy for 30 years), and the new asst coach is a relative unknown, new to college coaching (comparatively), and will get little autonomy. Stanford will continue to draw the top recruits bc the school, facilities, and quality of life are awesome. My prediction is that they will continue to be as good as they are now (3-6th at NCAA’s in any given year).

shooters
4 years 9 days ago

I think it would be foolish to call Ted a continuation of Skip. While he has worked under/with Skip for a number of years, I think he is very much his own coach. There were a lot of things that Skip did really well, and I think Ted will adopt some of those strategies. However, I don’t think that Ted has saved all the practices from the last 30 years and is going to just keep on doing the same old same old. Ted is extremely intelligent and takes a very precise yet creative approach to swimming. I think Ted and Scott will learn a lot from each other and that it will have a profound, positive affect on the program.

Jeremy Lin
4 years 8 days ago

Bulldoze’s comments are accurate. A number of people I know close to the program who were ex-swimmers and are current important donors have all told me that Ted has basically been the on-deck coach for the men for the past decade plus. The team you saw in the water since Stanford’s last NCAA championship run was a Skip recruited team and a Ted coached team.

What you will see in years to come is more of the same. Stanford is a great school – likely the best all around in the country – but it is not a mecca for world class high school recruits to get faster while swimming in college. Stanford will continue to win their beloved PAC Tens meet and will watch Cal pile up NCAA brass rings for years to come.

Cal is a dynasty. Durden will be there a long long time, athletes love him and Cal too is a world class university also in a world class Bay Area.

John Cena
4 years 8 days ago

While it is valid that Cal remains a world class University, the question becomes whether or not it will continue to be so. With the current economic state of California, it is not unreasonable to say that that quality of it’s public universities is going to go down (or tuition is going to go up…again) in coming years.

Not trying to say that Cal’s program will do anything other than continue to be one of the nations best. Durden is a great coach, and the swimmers there really seem to believe in him. I merely wonder what effect this could have on recruiting in coming years, particularly that between Cal and Stanford (the two best all around packages as far as swimming and school).

Bossanova
4 years 6 days ago

John Cena:

Finally someone with some sense on this board! You’re right to be concerned about the future of the economic state of California and it’s effect on the universities. Hopefully America doesn’t choose to elect another member of the party that got California into this mess in the first place for president. Barry will raise tuition rates and lower the quality of public universities. Do your research, people, it’s all there!!

Derek From South Lake
4 years 8 days ago

Lin, as someone who considers himself incredibly close to the program, I can assure you that the first paragraph of your above statement is false.

Perderperderp
4 years 8 days ago

“A Skip recruited team and a Ted coached team…”? In fact, a number of people I know close to the program who were ex-swimmers and are current important donors have all told me the exact opposite.

Moderator Edit: please keep the discussion civil.

notchoosingsides
4 years 8 days ago

I have to agree with Derek from South Lake. Ted was the coach responsible for recruiting. Skip was responsible for coaching.

However, I do agree with Jeremy Lin that world class high school recruits don’t go to Stanford to make it big on the international scene, they go to Stanford for the education. There are very few exceptions to this in their history: Pablo Morales, Jeff Rouse, Bryan Retterer, etc.. Also, I agree that Cal is a dynasty. It will be near impossible for any team to compete with them at NCAAs in the foreseeable future. It would be quite interesting to see what Jack Conger and Ryan Murphy could do from an individual standpoint, let alone from the team standpoint, if they go to Cal.

shooters
4 years 7 days ago

notchoosingsides
4 years 7 days ago

LOL!! I prefer these.

Fast forward to :16.

notchoosingsides
4 years 7 days ago

Be wary of the language on the video.

Just Sayin
4 years 6 days ago

Now, I’m no scholar, but I get the feeling that Not Choosing Sides may or may not have chosen a side.

LordPetyrBaelish
4 years 9 days ago

Bulldoze,

I agree with you that some of the people here are expecting changes greater than what will come around, unless the swimmers themselves do something big. Coaches don’t just win competitions for their athletes…that being said, a breath of fresh air could definitely change the team atmosphere for the better. Too many variables to jump to any conclusions. We’ll have to wait and see.

About Knapp’s continuing what Kenney did, I expect more changes than that. If the posts above are any indicator, some of the kids on the team are particularly hopeful that he won’t follow in Kenney’s footsteps. (Don’t think we can’t pick you out just because we “choose to go to Auburn…”) Though I predict that they will not have as “rough” of a transition as what occurs at other, clean-slate programs, thanks to Knapp’s exposure to and experience with what has been going on there for the past 30 years.

Best of luck to Stanford’s student-athletes, and congratulations to both Knapp and Armstrong. I’m hoping for some good showings at future meets.

Jimmy
4 years 8 days ago

Pretty sure Stanford hasn’t finished below 4th at NCAA’s in a reallllly long time,…(like 25+ years maybe?)..

CalBearFan
4 years 9 days ago

As far as Ted/Skip goes, the big question is…. does Ted feel the need to keep “the streak” alive?? If the answer is no, it will free the team up to have their best performances at ncaas. If they continue to shave 95% of their team for Pac12, the results will be similar to where they have been in the last 10 years.

Lenny
4 years 9 days ago

You do realize it is possible to rest for a meet like Pac-12’s which is 3 to 4 weeks before NC’s and still be at peak form for NC’s? Resting for a meet does not mean you can’t swim fast 3-4 weeks later. Obviously, this means you have to have an excellent plan and I think this may have been the short comings of past Stanford teams, not a great plan in the time between Pac-12’s and NC’s. Whether Ted and Scott decide to keep the streak is irrelevant assuming they have a strong game plan.

SoCalMamba
4 years 8 days ago

Wait? You can rest for PAC-12 and still do well 4 weeks later?!? That’s great news for Team USA!! I thought the fact that they rested for Olympic Trials was a huge mistake, but if they can do well at the Games as well, then maybe you’re on to something.

allanjurovich
4 years 8 days ago

As long as you build a big enough of a aerobic base, you can do whatever you want.

Tom
4 years 8 days ago

I hear Stanford is considering hiring Skip Kenney for the women’s position. I guess he grew tired of coaching men and decided he wanted to coach women.

TomTheRealOG
4 years 8 days ago

Really? I doubt it. I heard some huge names being dropped as far as who is being considered for the women’s team, so there is a good chance that their squad will undergo huge changes as well in the coming years.

Scarface
4 years 8 days ago

TOMTHEREALOG, I hope the above comment was a joke.

If not,

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sarcasm

TomTheRealOG
4 years 7 days ago

You obviously didn’t get what I was saying. Kenney is not being considered as an option for the women’s team as far as I know. Other names, bigger names, are. For that reason, these newer coaches that are being considered will likely change the women’s program, and hopefully for the better.

WHOKNOWS
4 years 7 days ago

I am tired of watching talented swimmers out of high school not improving to the next level. .Stanford does great at PAC 12 Championships but fall short at NCAA!

4 years 7 days ago

And if they blow off PAC-12s, when do you propose they qualify for NCAAs? They assemble a month after most schools, so I’m not sure they even have time to train/taper for a mid-year meet like many others do. We’ll see how Knapp handles that. Bring them in a month early, or just qualify at PAC-12s like usual? Or even take the elite squad to the Texas Invite. There are workarounds, but what will Knapp consider practical and/or beneficial?

And also bear in mind that these kids, along with a few other unlucky students, are taking final exams right before (or sometimes during) NCAAs. Maybe the pressures of school will perennially detract from their performance at the big dance? Even the best have limits.

Somehow this discussion has gone way off track. Is this not an article about Scott Armstrong? Let’s get back to talking about the man of the hour!

sarcasm
4 years 8 days ago

Pretty sure that was sarcasm. Take into account his history, http://www.paloaltoonline.com/weekly/morgue/news/1996_Jul_26.KENNEY.html, and he probably isn’t on the top of many lists to coach women.

thepunisher
4 years 8 days ago

That’s false. I am almost positive it is Austin Staab.

Tony Hicks
4 years 8 days ago

Why does everyone hate on Stanford?

Tom
4 years 7 days ago

No one likes to think its possible to get a top-knotch education and have a top swim program at the same time.

duckduckgoose
4 years 7 days ago

It’s depressing to read some of the posts here on Stanford, Nolan, Missy, etc…There’s nothing wrong with using your athletic ability to be admitted to a school which denies more than 90% of its applicants. It’s a lot more difficult to build a world class university than it is to build a strong collegiate swimming program.

joeb
4 years 6 days ago

So has anyone heard of anyone being interviewed for the women’s position at Stanford?

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