How Do The Relays Of The Men’s NCAA Title-Contending Teams Stack Up Against Each Other?

SwimSwam commenter Willswim asked if someone could put together a side-by-side comparison chart for Texas, Cal, Florida, and Indiana and the answer was yes, we can. As Willswim said, there’s a lot of movement—it’s early in the season, teams are still trying to figure out their optimal lineups, and some of the top swimmers that will factor into these relays (Destin Lasco, Matt King, Adam Chaney, etc.) haven’t swum a meet yet this season. But, we’ve given it our best shot at predicting what the relay lineups will look like.

We’ve tried to dig up the fastest relay split by each swimmer but if you know of a faster one than what’s listed, let us know. To make the lineups, we relied on the quartets that teams have already fielded this season but also made educated guesses about where swimmers like Lasco, King, and Chaney, will slot in based on past performances. We’ve adhered to the maximum of four relays for each swimmer, though we’ve noted where someone may drop an individual to swim all five relays.

Finally, as ASU is leading the NCAA in four out of the five relays this season, we’ve added them to the mix. They have an uphill battle to remain in the top five this season, but the speed their relays have shown this season will go a long way towards making that happen.

Tables are organized fastest to slowest, left to right. Relay splits are highlighted. Flat start times are blank and noted with (FS).

200 Freestyle Relay

Florida ASU Cal Texas Indiana
Josh Liendo 18.07 Ilya Kharun 18.59 Jack Alexy 18.38 Chris Guiliano 18.43 Rafael Miroslaw 19.08
Adam Chaney 18.26 Patrick Sammon 19.06 Bjorn Seeliger 18.43 Nate Germonprez 18.83 Tomer Frankel 18.97
Julian Smith 18.51 Tommy Palmer 18.33 Destin Lasco 18.52 Luke Hobson 18.82 Mikkel Lee 18.75
Ed Fullum-Huot 18.63 Jonny Kulow 17.94 Lucca Battaglini (FS) 19.06 Camden Taylor 18.98 Matt King 18.42
73.47 73.92 74.39 75.06 75.22
1:13.47 1:13.93 1:14.39 1:15.06 1:15.22

 

For our purposes, the 200 freestyle relay is a straightforward exercise. Florida, the NCAA record holders, and defending champions, are the fastest of the favorites. With an add-up of 1:13.47, Josh Liendo, Adam Chaney, Julian Smith, and Ed Fullum-Huot check in just .12 seconds from the NCAA record the Gators set in 2023.

For all the talk about what ASU lost in the off-season, their 200 freestyle relay looks to have improved. They finished 3rd at the 2024 NCAA Championships with a 1:13.95, two-hundredths slower than their add-up this season. That’s largely due to Ilya Kharun popping an 18.59 at ASU vs. NC State, but adding transfer Tommy Palmer certainly helps as well.

This relay is a good example of how important the addition of Chris Guiliano is for Texas. They’re still the fourth-fastest of the favorites—a list that does not include NC State or Tennessee, two strong teams in this race—but Guiliano lights up their sprint corps and puts them right in the middle of the sprint freestyle action. Without him, their sprint relays suffer, which likely keeps them out of the conversation for the NCAA title.

Instead, this relay becomes Indiana’s weak spot. The Hoosiers could lead off with Matt King, who has broken 19 seconds before, but his 18.96 lifetime best is still way behind the lead-off swimmers of the rest of the programs. With programs shifting towards using their fastest swimmers to lead off, that relay leg becomes even more crucial or Indiana will spend the rest of the relay fighting through the wave.

400 Freestyle Relay

Cal ASU Texas Indiana Florida
Jack Alexy 40.59 Ilya Kharun 41.56 Chris Guiliano 40.62 Matt King 41.34 Josh Liendo 40.2
Bjorn Seeliger 40.3 Patrick Sammon 40.94 Luke Hobson 40.87 Tomer Frankel 41.81 Julian Smith 41.06
Matt Jensen 41.11 Filip Senc-Samardzic 42.46 Camden Taylor 41.69 Rafael Miroslaw 40.94 Adam Chaney 40.8
Destin Lasco 40.95 Jonny Kulow 40.54 Rex Maurer 42.47 Mikkel Lee 41.76 Ed Fullum-Huot (FS) 42.18
162.95 165.5 165.65 165.85 164.24
2:42.95 2:45.50 2:45.65 2:45.85 2:46.24

 

The 400 freestyle relay, the last event of the NCAA Championships, is always a free-for-all. The swimmers are tired after a long meet and giving everything they have left. So, it’s unlikely that we’ll see Cal soar as far under the 2:43.40 NCAA record that their add-up suggests. But, with an on-paper time of 2:42.95, .45 seconds under ASU’s record from last season, shows how clearly they are the favorites in this relay.

Guiliano on the Texas relay launches them into the mix with ASU, as their add-up times are five-hundredths apart. Indiana recovers in this relay from other pure freestyle sprint relay with another 2:45-point add-up. They’ve got options as to whether they lead-off with King or Miroslaw, too. Similarly, Texas could lead-off with Hobson and have Guiliano on a flying start, though a Guiliano lead-off is probably their best option.

800 Freestyle Relay

Cal Texas Indiana Florida ASU
200 Gabriel Jett 1:30.32 Luke Hobson 88.81 Rafael Miroslaw (FS) 90.76 Josh Liendo 92.96 Patrick Sammon 91.82
400 Destin Lasco 1:29.53 Chris Guiliano (FS) 90.36 Tomer Frankel 92.19 Julian Smith 91.92 Tiago Behar (FS) 92.86
600 Jack Alexy (FS) 1:29.75 Rex Maurer (FS) 92.13 Owen McDonald (FS) 92.06 Oskar Lindholm 92.51 Quin Seider (FS) 94.82
800 Robin Hanson 1:31.84 Coby Carrozza (FS) 90.5 Kai van Westering 92.97 Jake Mitchell 91.19 Filip Senc-Samardzic (FS) 32.97
361.44 361.8 367.98 368.58 312.47
6:01.44 6:04.73 w/o Guiliano 6:01.80 6:07.98 6:08.58 6:12.47

The 800 freestyle relay is perhaps the most chaotic of the five relays, made even more so because so few teams have swum the race this season. It also seems to be the relay that fans most want to see Guiliano on, though interestingly, adding Guiliano doesn’t put the Longhorns ahead of the Cal, the NCAA record holders. Once again, the Golden Bears’ add-up is faster than the NCAA record as the check in with a 6:01.44, .82 seconds ahead of the 6:02.26 they swam last year.

Texas needs Guiliano to swim three individual events, so they’ll need to leave him off a relay. There’s no shortage of 200 freestylers on the Longhorns roster, though right now it looks like their best move is to leave him off the 400 medley relay as exchanging Guiliano for Hubert Kos adds almost two seconds to their add-up.

Guiliano’s arrival makes the fight for a spot on this relay that much closer—right now, Rex Maurer and Coby Carrozza are the best options, though it’s easy to imagine Aaron Shackell contending for a spot. Kos will likely be on the 200 medley relay earlier that session, though could pull the double.

This is arguably the relay where Florida feels the loss of Macguire McDuff the most. Unless one of their swimmers breaks through in the 200 free this year, they’ll either need to punt on this relay (which they can’t do if they want the overall NCAA crown) or use Josh Liendo. Liendo’s been as fast as 1:32.16; while they won’t be in the hunt for the 800 freestyle relay title, that would keep them in the mix for a top 8 with an add-up of 6:08.58. That means they’d likely take him off the 200 medley relay and sub in Scotty Buff, which they did at the 2024 SEC Championships.

Without Kharun or Jonny Kulow, this relay is ASU’s major weak spot; even one 1:34-split won’t cut it in a world where having a 1:32-high split puts a team out of contention for the event’s NCAA title. That said, less than an hour ago ASU did use Kulow on as the 800 free relay anchor at the ASU vs. Cal vs. Stanford tri-meet. He split 1:33.66, teaming with Sammon (1:32.86 lead-off), Tiago Behar (1:33.69), and Filip Senc-Samardzic (1:32.97). That likely confirms his place on this relay; meaning he’ll either be pulled off another one or only swim two individual events. Putting Kulow’s 1:33.66 and Senc-Samardzic’s new fastest split on the relay drops the Sun Devils to 6:10.71.

200 Medley Relay

Florida ASU Indiana Cal Texas
Adam Chaney 20.19 Lucien Vergnes 20.88 Luke Barr 21.03 Bjorn Seeliger 20.08 Will Modglin 20.49
Julian Smith 22.55 Andy Dobrzanski 23.48 Brian Benzing 22.54 Yamato Okadome 23.44 Nate Germonprez 23.3
Scotty Buff 19.75 Ilya Kharun 19.12 Tomer Frankel 19.56 Dare Rose 19.85 Hubert Kos 20.25
Ed Fullum-Huot 18.63 Jonny Kulow 17.94 Matt King 18.42 Jack Alexy 18.4 Chris Guiliano 17.94
81.12 81.42 81.55 81.77 81.98
1:20.34 w/Liendo 1:21.34 1:21.42 1:21.55 1:21.77 1:21.98

Florida is the top seed whether or not they use Liendo here. Granted, his 18.97 50 fly split, the second-fastest in history, is hard to leave off a relay; with it, the Gators’ add-up is 1:20.34, .19 seconds from their NCAA record.

The Gators’ lead narrows with Buff on butterfly instead of Liendo, as their 1:21.34 with Buff is just .08 seconds ahead of ASU’s add-up. Plus, ASU’s add-up is soft, Lucien Vergnes is getting faster with each meet as he gets more comfortable in yards, and Kharun just fired off a 19.1 50 fly split—it seems likely he’ll join Liendo and Jordan Crooks with a sub-19 second split sooner rather than later.

Yamato Okadome is also getting used to yards in Berkeley and in the meantime, he’s posting intriguing breaststroke times that could move Cal up from their fourth-place standing among these five teams.

For Indiana, it may turn out that their international freshman, Olympian Miroslav Knedla, draws onto this relay (as well as the 400 medley relay). However, at this moment, he doesn’t have the fastest lead-off on the team.

400 Medley Relay

Florida Cal Indiana ASU Texas
Jonny Marshall 44.12 Destin Lasco 43.93 Owen McDonald 44.25 Lucien Vergnes 45.32 Will Modglin 44.2
Aleksas Savickas (FS) 51.01 Matt Jensen (FS) 51.42 Brian Benzing 50.94 Andy Dobrzanski 51.49 Nate Germonprez 51.39
Josh Liendo 42.77 Dare Rose 44.17 Tomer Frankel 43.85 Ilya Kharun 43.35 Hubert Kos (FS) 44.93
Adam Chaney 40.9 Bjorn Seeliger 40.3 Matt King 40.9 Jonny Kulow 40.54 Luke Hobson 40.87
178.8 179.82 179.94 180.7 181.39
2:58.80 2:59.82 2:59.94 3:01.17 3:00.69 w/Guiliano 3:01.39

Getting disqualified in this relay at last year’s NCAA Championships hurt the Gators’ bid to upset Cal for second place. They are the favorites in the event this year, and they have options here too. Julian Smith swam two individual events at NCAAs last year and could do the same again. That would let Florida pick up seven-hundredths on this relay, improving their add-up from 2:58.80 to 2:58.73. Though Chaney has been faster than Jonny Marshall in the 100 back, it should be fastest for them to use Marshall on backstroke and slide Chaney to freestyle.

Cal sits about a second behind Florida, followed closely by Indiana. They are the three teams of this group with an add-up that’s sub-3:00. Okadome could end up on this relay for Cal, though currently Matt Jensen has the fastest 100 breaststroke.

If this is indeed the relay that Texas opts to leave Guiliano off, it’s likely they turn to Luke Hobson. Hobson’s shown he can throw down competitive splits in the 50 and 100 freestyle, though of course putting in Guiliano’s lightning-fast 40.17 best split significantly improves the relay add-up. But even with Hobson, the 3:01.39 add-up is much quicker than the 3:02.44 they swam at the 2024 NCAAs for 8th place.

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Hmm
1 month ago

Wuffies are PISSED about this article…

MigBike
1 month ago

While this comparison is intriguing, there is a sleeper team in the 200 FR Relay – The TENNESSEE VOLS.

Admin
Reply to  MigBike
1 month ago

For sure. Didn’t exclude them as a slight, we were just kind of looking at the schools that are currently looking ‘elite’ in all five relays. There are a few other schools that could interrupt some of these relays, like Stanford in the 400 medley for example.

MDS
1 month ago

The charts are all blank. How can we get them to populate?

This Guy
Reply to  MDS
1 month ago

Hit refresh or try a different browser. It’s working

mds
Reply to  This Guy
1 month ago

Thanks. Got it.

Horninco
1 month ago

I love all the arguing. College swimming finally appears to have (relatively) some parity

Let’s go!

Captain Bubbles
1 month ago

Seeliger has been 18.2 FS.
Alexy’s FS is faster than the 18.4 he’s listed on for 4×50 MR… but he probably does 4MR instead to avoid a double.
Carrozza’s 90.5 is not FS
I bet Finn Brooks is on both 4x50s.
Masiuk, Tomac… since NCAA is full mercenary now, who else will show up?
NC State could be competitive, but… will they?

Andrew
Reply to  Captain Bubbles
1 month ago

Seeliger is washed cmon now

captain bubbles
Reply to  Captain Bubbles
1 month ago

Indiana – Matheny 50.63 at last NCAAs

oxyswim
Reply to  captain bubbles
1 month ago

Benzing has been 50.5 flat start, not sure why they didn’t use that time, but he’s definitely got that spot over Matheny.

MIKE IN DALLAS
1 month ago

TEXAS will sweep all of ’em but one! Bank on it!

Justin Pollard
Reply to  MIKE IN DALLAS
1 month ago

Is there a betting market on this?! What odds are you giving?

bobthebuilderrocks
Reply to  Justin Pollard
1 month ago

I’m gonna need a betting market on NCAA team finishes. Cal out of the top 2 is looking NICE right now

Justin Pollard
Reply to  bobthebuilderrocks
1 month ago

🤣

aquajosh
1 month ago

Alex Painter is a huge X-Factor for UF, and either he or Aiden Norman (or both) will be key to keeping Julian Smith from having to swim five relays. He is way too versatile to not swim in a third event where he could potentially score, and UF needs all the points this year. Either way, I don’t see a 42 split making the 400 free relay team. There’s going to be some big-time competition for that fourth spot that’s going to drive some fast times.

Pseudo-Conscious Meatsack
1 month ago

Alec Filipovic was 18.92 against NCSU last year and gets screwed being left off every 2fr relay since

Old Swim Coach
Reply to  Pseudo-Conscious Meatsack
1 month ago

Was it his time?

Last edited 1 month ago by Old Swim Coach

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