Updated: Michael Phelps Comments on Doping, Not Directed at Cavic

Some rivalries never die.  Such is the case for Michael Phelps and Milorad Cavic, the two fastest 100 butterfliers in history.  Now both retired from competition, Phelps and Cavic have remained involved in the swimming industry in their own ways.  Phelps, one of the leaders of a coalition of athletes championing clean sports and anti-doping, has increased his efforts to promote honest competition now that he has more time out of the pool.

Cavic, who has taken multiple jabs at Phelps over the years, rekindled the bitterness the two have had since the 2008 Beijing Olympics where Phelps defeated Cavic in the 100 butterfly by a narrow 1/100th of a second to claim his seventh gold medal of the eight he would ultimately win in Beijing.  Phelps’s self-described rant (below) was in response to a comment left on his video rather than a direct response to Milorad Cavic‘s comments last week.

“I think that comment is so rude and so beyond anything that’s really imaginable.  You want to go and look at any results I’ve ever had in a drug test, go ahead.”  Phelps continued: “I think it’s a joke where sports are.  I think it’s unfair that there are so many athletes that are using performance-enhancing drugs.  If you look at over 1,900 athletes the year before the Olympics in Rio, were not tested one time.  Six months leading up to the Games I was tested 13 times just by USADA.  So, you know, I think that’s something that is sad about sports today.  And if you think I cheated, that’s your own opinion.  I know what I did in the sport.  I know the hard work I put in.  And I know what went into my body, and drugs were not one of those things.”

Phelps voiced his opinion on doping in sports in general.  Without calling out specific athletes or sports, Phelps said:

“People who test positive in sports don’t deserve another chance to perform because they’re doing something that other people are doing with training.  I know I busted my tail for years on end, in training, trying to get myself stronger and ready for every race.  And that’s what I did.  I had goals, and I achieved them because I worked hard to accomplish them.  There are other people that are taking the easy, cheap way out, and they’re taking performance-enhancing drugs.  That’s a joke.  Sports in this world today, in my opinion, some of them are great, but some of them are also a joke because there are so, so many people that are trying to find a way to cheat and get away with it. And it takes away from sports.  It takes away from the true meaning of what sport is.  And that’s sad. And for me, as a father now, watching my son grow up and watching him to get in sports or grab a ball, do this, do that, I think that’s something that I hope changes in years to come, so my son never has to go through some of the things that I went through as an athlete.”

Later, apologizing for his “rant” on clean sports, Phelps said:

“Sorry I went on that rant, guys, but this is something that’s such a passion for me that has to change.  It’s so frustrating when people sit there and say you cheated, or you do it this way or you do that. You don’t know.  I’m the only one that knows.  And all the other thousands of drug tests and vials of blood and cups of urine that I’ve had to give, open-handed.”

Phelps pulled his name from the drug testing pool in November, the last step in his “official” retirement from swimming.

In response to Phelps’s testimony before House Energy & Commerce Committee on Tuesday, February 28th, Cavic voiced doubts about Phelps’s commitment to anti-doping via Twitter:

“Dear Michael,

Doping has been a problem and it’s only getting worse. I, too, don’t know what to tell my son, nor would I wish that my son ever be half as good as I was knowing what he’ll face tomorrow. People get tested, some more than others… I could even recall Lance Armstrong getting tested 3x in one day and never failed once, but that’s not the problem. At the moment, we’re not able to detect new drugs and advanced methods of doping. Why you’re seeking reform now that you’re retired, and never before supported blood passports, is beyond us all, perhaps even convenient. I’m not suggesting you’re a cheat, you’ve gradually improved your times throughout your career, but your recovery rate is nothing short of science fiction… We all just wished we could understand it. Anyway, I really do hope that you’ll stick with this, because incase our sons go pro some day, I’d like to think you made a difference #NeverTooLate”

On the eve of the 100 butterfly final in Beijing, Cavic provided Phelps with just the right motivation by saying that “It would be good for the sport if [Phelps] lost.”

Phelps’s video is posted below or can be viewed here.  If you are only interested in Phelps’s statements on doping, go to the 11:30 mark of the video:

https://www.facebook.com/michaelphelps/videos/vb.8938856246/10154492637041247/?type=2&theater&notif_t=live_video_explicit&notif_id=1489164804004551

 

The post was not solely about doping in sports, as Phelps also answered fan questions about swimming the English Channel–he’s never going to; his favorite Eminem song–he can’t name one; and Boomer’s mobility–he isn’t walking… yet.

A previous version of this article said that Phelps’ comments were in response to Cavic, which he has clarified.

Update: Cavic, in spite of not specifically being the subject of Phelps’ response, still took to Twitter on Friday in response to Phelps’ video.

“We can keep beating around the bush, but we’re doing a disservice to the sports community for dodging powerful Q’s and taking no action,” Cavic Tweeted. “A lot of negative noise out there coming from people that neither understand the ABC’s of the drug testing process nor know the basic differences + benefits of proteins & carbohydrates. What use are words in the war against cheaters if today’s stars are reluctant to “put their money where their mouth is?” Awfully quiet out there, right now. In 2009, I regularly published my full blood results every quarter on my website. How’s that for transparency? Only one athlete out there joined the Blood Passsport movement, and he happens to be Russian – Evgeny Korotyshkin, no one else. As for you Phelps “Beliebers” out there, I’m not disputing his greatness, I just asked a question – Why now? More free time? It would have taken a quick, one-time statement of support and a small pinch for a blood sample between playing XBOX and online poker.”

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ELLIE
7 years ago

Cavic’s new post makes some sense…

Bigly
Reply to  ELLIE
7 years ago

I think the “why now?” might have had more to do with MP’s desire to keep out of the media spotlight during the off years as he was battling DUIs and gambling problems — his “dark period,” as he called it. He was never a team captain either. What idiot would call out drug cheaters when they’re plea bargaining to stay out of jail for a DUI? He didn’t take up a leadership role (team captain, flag carrier, and now testifying before Congress) until he took care of some of his personal issues. Can’t fault him for that, and glad he’s stepping up now. Could he do more? Sure. But maybe he will. We’ve doubted him before.

Duswim
7 years ago

What actually happened:

Michael: “Sorry I can’t hear you my 28 medals are too loud”

Cavic: *Crickets

MIKE
Reply to  Duswim
7 years ago

Pointless comment. Even one thousand medals can be worthless if they are won unfairly. The fact you nowadays have dozens of permitted substances for improving performances is also an absurd. The pharmaceutical company that cram more money into the pockets of boars members of IOC and other sport authorities wins the discussion. They corrupted today’s sport completely.

TacoMan
7 years ago

Maybe they should just allow PED’s in sports, so no competitor has an advantage over another

BAKSTROKE
Reply to  TacoMan
7 years ago

Not sure if that’s a serious comment but PEDs don’t have the same effect on every person so the playing field wouldn’t be even the sport would be less about how your body responds to training and more about how it reacts to drugs

Steve Nolan
7 years ago

Isn’t all this noise just missing the point, though?

I thought Cavic was big into those “biological passport” things, which Phelps did decline to participate in. To me, it’s fair for Cavic to call him out for not having participated in that program and only becoming so vocal about doping now. (Obviously, he was a tested a ton, never failed a test and had other things to worry about while he was swimming.)

Cavic questioning his recovery rate wasn’t called for and just threw the whole discussion off, because I would like to hear why Phelps isn’t championing the passport programs. (Which, idk, maybe he did in that video; I’m only good at reading.)

AvidSwimFan
Reply to  Steve Nolan
7 years ago

Just because MP didn’t back the biological passports program doesn’t mean MP is against better doping control. I know a lot of people who want better doping control who are against the biological passport program especially the way he wanted it run. And yes if Cavic had kept his comments on this train this would be a different conversation. His whole response to MP testimony was a passive aggressive unsupported takedown of all of MP’s accomplishments.

Coach Mike 1952
Reply to  AvidSwimFan
7 years ago

Could someone kindly locate & post the physiological attributes that MP has had in his career (lung capacity, Hg count, etc.) as compared to more “normal” athletes? I recall reading of these somewhere. It is quite likely that his phenomenal recovery rate could be tied at least in part to these “gifts” of nature & heredity. Certainly we cannot ignore these for any athlete. I recall seeing a young man in 1971 who could slow his heart rate to 60 in 15 seconds after running a 10 minute two-mile race. Used an early form of bio-feedback for control, which frontier still continues to be explored.

Beverly Drangus
Reply to  Coach Mike 1952
7 years ago

While you’re at it, locate and post the same for Lance. There were endless articles and videos about his superhuman “gifts of nature and heredity,” how his unique training gave him unique adaptations…etc. Funny to watch now that we know what “nature and heredity” really meant. I can only hope Phelps’ better stand the test of time.

@steve nolan: “tested a ton” is a very subjective evaluation. ‘Tested enough to prove that no doping occurred’ is the relevant question, and almost no one is tested that much. Certainly not Phelps.

I agree that without evidence, this discussion doesn’t really go anywhere, but the lack of evidence does go both ways.

Tom from Chicago
7 years ago

Good rant. This is why we need more athletes and less politicians involved in drug testing regulations. The politicians are destroying the integrity of the sport.

Bigly
7 years ago

Thank you, Lance Armstrong, A-Rod, Barry Bonds, and the rest for letting there always be a doubt when someone gives a superhuman athletic performance. I was a big Lance Armstrong defender to the bitter end, so unfortunately I can see where Cavic is coming from. If Cavic had just been smart enough to keep his head down on that finish, he wouldn’t have to go full-on sour grapes now.

Uberfan
Reply to  Bigly
7 years ago

We need bigger thanks for the 1976 East Germany swim team

Bigly
Reply to  Uberfan
7 years ago

Although there was never any doubt what was going on with them.

Lodewijk
Reply to  Bigly
7 years ago

For lucid enough people, there wasn’t any doubt as far as Lance Armstrong was concerned either.

Bigly
Reply to  Lodewijk
7 years ago

Yeah, I was thrown off when the US Postal Service sponsored him. Didn’t think we’d have state-sponsored doping in the U.S.

Lane Four
Reply to  Uberfan
7 years ago

Actually, every East German team from 1973 to 1989 with the exception of 1978.

David Berkoff
7 years ago

You go Michael. We need to stop doping and the only way is to impose a death penalty to serious PED infractions. These second and third chances are just ridiculous. FINA has no backbone to really combat doping in swimming and too many NGB doping control entities (e.g. Russia) are subject to corruption. It is going to take strong voices like Michael’s to put the kind of pressure on the IOC and WADA to really do something. I would go so far as to require NGBs to put up monetary bonds (tens of millions) which they forfeit if their athletes fail a drug test. Money talks.

Dee
7 years ago

Classy response from a classy champion.

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