2021 NCAA Men’s Day 4 Ups/Downs: Cal Goes 8/2, Texas Projected to Keep Lead


  • When: Wednesday, March 24 – Saturday, March 27, 2021
  • Where: Greensboro Aquatic Center / Greensboro, NC (Eastern Time Zone)
  • Prelims 10 AM/ Finals 6 PM (Local Time)
  • Short course yards (SCY) format
  • Defending champion: Cal (1x) – 2019 results
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For those unfamiliar with swimming terminology, the concept of “Ups” and “Downs” is a good way to track which teams performed best at prelims. In prelims, swimmers qualify for one of three finals heats: the top 8 finishers make the A final, places 9 through 16 the B final and places 17 through 24 the C final. In finals, swimmers are locked into their respective final, meaning a swimmer in the B heat (spots 9-16) can only place as high as 9th or as low as 16th, even if they put up the fastest or slowest time of any heat in the final.

With that in mind, we’ll be tracking “Ups,” “Mids” and “Downs” after each prelims session. “Up” refers to swimmers in the A final, “Mid” to swimmers in the B final and “Down” to swimmers in the C final.

Day 4 Prelims Recap


  1. Texas 414
  2. Cal 372
  3. Florida 282
  4. Georgia 198
  5. Indiana 158
  6. Louisville 150
  7. Texas A&M 127
  8. NC State 120
  9. Ohio State 108
  10. Virginia 102
  11. Michigan 100
  12. Mizzou 67
  13. Arizona 66
  14. Virginia Tech 60
  15. Stanford 58
  16. Alabama 53
  17. LSU 52
  18. Tennessee/Miami 38
  19. (tie)
  20. UNC/Purdue 31
  21. (tie)
  22. Georgia Tech 29
  23. Florida State 24.5
  24. Pittsburgh 23
  25. Minnesota 20
  26. Notre Dame/USC 15
  27. (tie)
  28. Penn State 13
  29. Wisconsin 10
  30. Kentucky 9
  31. Utah 6.5

On Saturday morning, the Greensboro Aquatic Center had its last preliminaries session with the 200 back, 100 free, 200 breast, and 200 fly. At the conclusion of the session, the Cal Bears picked up 8 up and 2 down swims while the Texas Longhorns picked up 6 up and 4 down swims. Georgia had the next-best showing with 3 up and 3 down swims, followed by Virginia Tech and Florida picking up 2 A-finalists each. Cal is expected to reel in 135.5 points after their prelims showing while Texas is projected bring in 115 total points from the four events. However, Texas will still have a 22.50-point lead over Cal minus the 1650 free, platform diving, and the 400 free relay.

In the 200 back, freshman Destin Lasco broke the pool record at 1:37.19, leading a trio of Bears including #4 Bryce Mefford and #5 Daniel Carr. The Texas Longhorns will have #3 Carson Foster and #6 Austin Katz in the championship final along with #2 Shaine Casas of Texas A&M and #8 Clark Beach of Florida, who beat Virginia’s Justin Grender in a swim-off after tying at 1:40.20.

Ryan Hoffer of Cal will aim for his 3rd title here in Greensboro with his top 100 free seed alongside #4 Bjorn Seeliger. Texas will also have #2 Drew Kibler and #3 Daniel Krueger while Florida will have #6 Kieran Smith and Alabama’s Matt King snagged the 8th seed after getting DQ’ed in the 50 free.

Cal’s Reece Whitley picked up the top seed in the 200 breast over last night’s 100 breast champion Max McHugh of Minnesota. Texas’ Caspar Corbeau earned the third seed behind Stanford’s Daniel Roy while Whitley will be joined by Cal teammate Hugo Gonzalez in the championship final. Longhorn teammates Braden Vines and Jake Foster snagged the 9th and 10th seeds in the consolation final.

Finally, Louisville’s Nicolas Albiero holds the top 200 fly seed after taking second place in the 100 fly final yesterday. Behind him is Cal’s Trenton Julian, who SwimSwam picked to win the event over Albiero. Georgia’s Luca Urlando (#4) and Camden Murphy (#8) gave the Bulldogs two A-final swims while Texas’ Sam Pomajevich picked up the 5th seed over Big Ten champion Brendan Burns of Indiana (#6).


Credit to Andrew Mering for running the numbers.

Not including: 1650 free, platform diving, 400 free relay

All 200 Back 100 Free 200 Breast 200 Fly
California 8/2 3/1 2/0 2/0 1/1
Texas 6/4 2/0 2/1 1/2 1/1
Georgia 3/3 1/1 0/1 0/1 2/0
VT 2/4 0/1 0/1 1/1 1/1
UVA 1/3 0/1 0/1 1/1 0/0
Florida 2/1 1/0 1/1 0/0 0/0
Indiana 1/3 0/2 0/0 0/0 1/1
Texas A&M 1/1 1/0 0/1 0/0 0/0
Louisville 1/1 0/1 0/0 0/0 1/0
Purdue 1/0 0/0 1/0 0/0 0/0
LSU 1/0 0/0 1/0 0/0 0/0
Alabama 1/0 0/0 1/0 0/0 0/0
Minnesota 1/0 0/0 0/0 1/0 0/0
GT 1/0 0/0 0/0 1/0 0/0
Stanford 1/0 0/0 0/0 1/0 0/0
Arizona 1/0 0/0 0/0 0/0 1/0
Missouri 0/2 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/1
Ohio State 0/2 0/0 0/0 0/2 0/0
Michigan 0/1 0/0 0/1 0/0 0/0
PITT 0/1 0/0 0/1 0/0 0/0
Tennessee 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/1 0/0
USC 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/1
West Virginia 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/1
Kentucky 0/1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/1


California Texas Georgia VT UVA Indiana Florida Louisville Texas A&M Minnesota Stanford LSU GT Missouri Arizona Purdue Alabama Ohio State West Virginia USC Tennessee Kentucky Michigan PITT
200 Back 50 29 15 4 9 8.5 11 5 17 0 0 0 0 6.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
100 Free 35 39 3.5 9 7 0 16.5 0 5 0 0 14 0 0 0 12 11 0 0 0 0 0 1.5 1.5
200 Breast 32.5 31 2 13.5 14 0 0 0 0 17 16 0 14 0 0 0 0 10 0 0 5 0 0 0
200 Fly 18 16 26 19 0 22 0 20 0 0 0 0 0 7 12 0 0 0 6 5 0 4 0 0


California 135.5
Texas 115
Georgia 46.5
VT 45.5
Indiana 30.5
UVA 30
Florida 27.5
Louisville 25
Texas A&M 22
Minnesota 17
Stanford 16
LSU 14
GT 14
Missouri 13.5
Arizona 12
Purdue 12
Alabama 11
Ohio State 10
West Virginia 6
Tennessee 5
Kentucky 4
Michigan 1.5
PITT 1.5


Not including: platform diving, 400 free relay

Texas 529
California 507.5
Florida 309.5
Georgia 244.5
Indiana 188.5
Louisville 175
Texas A&M 149
UVA 132
NC State 120
Ohio State 118
VT 105.5
Michigan 101.5
Missouri 80.5
Arizona 78
Stanford 74
LSU 66
Alabama 64
GT 43
Purdue 43
Tennessee 43
Miami 38
Minnesota 37
UNC 31
PITT 24.5
Florida St 24.5
USC 20
ND 15
Kentucky 13
Penn State 13
Wisconsin 10
Utah 6.5
West Virginia 6

Projected 1650 Free Points

Georgia 1/1 26
Florida 1/0 20
NC State 1/2 19
Texas 1/1 17
Notre Dame 1/0 16
Cal 1/0 15
Indiana 1/0 13
Michigan 1/0 11
Arizona 0/1 7
Ohio State 0/1 6
Wisconsin 0/1 4
Stanford 0/1 1

The 1650 free timed finals are set to begin before the start of this evening’s finals session. Florida’s Bobby Finke comes in as the top seed and the American/U.S. Open/NCAA record holder. However, Georgia is expected to pick up 26 points in the event, six more than Florida if Finke wins.

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5 months ago

Does anyone else think it’s crazy that 2 teams are going to score over 500 points? What a concentration of talent at the top.

Reply to  BearlyBreathing
5 months ago

That’s what happens when 2 schools recruit the top talent year after year.

Reply to  Swimmer
5 months ago

Not disagreeing with you, but scholarship limits have been the same for a while now. What’s changed?
Is this kind of top-heaviness good or bad for the sport at the college level? Or of no consequence?

Reply to  BearlyBreathing
5 months ago

IMO I think it would be great for the sport if 3-5 teams had a legitimate shot every year. It would generate much more interest. The battle coming down to the last relay. Every swim counts Every swimmer plays a part. Getting 12th instead of 15th is just as important as 4th vs 7th. Good luck Bears!!

Reply to  Swimmer
5 months ago

I feel like Georgia and Florida are really on the rise. Cal will lose a lot of good seniors, so I think next year will be more competitive.

Reply to  Waader
5 months ago

UGA Florida NC State and IU are cyclical as recruits come and go. Recruiting the top class year after year keeps you at the top

Reply to  BearlyBreathing
5 months ago

Some of the most outstanding swims have come from other schools like Louisville along with the Virginia men. There are lots of places to go and get faster. It’s all a choice and there are lots of great programs.

Reply to  Swimmer
5 months ago

Hopefully the next olympic cycle will change it up, not rooting against anyone but nc state got really good after 2016 for a couple years

Reply to  Swimmer2
5 months ago

Coaching is important without a doubt but recruiting is the key to winning the big one. Look at all the marquee teams who are way down this year. Same coach Same pool Same school The difference? The talent is simply not there.

Old Swim Bug
Reply to  BearlyBreathing
5 months ago

Most NCAAs are a battle between two schools, particularly after the conference championships. Rarely is it a 3 or 4-team affair. Looking back at the history books and you’ll see a lot of Texas vs. Stanford, Texas vs. Auburn, Texas vs. Cal, and a handful of other combinations which include the likes of Michigan.

Having swum at UT in the 80s, I can say that it’s not necessarily about getting the #1 recruits year-in and year-out. Texas in particular has regularly attracted athletes that would be the top swimmers in second and third-tier programs. They come in, work the program, and contend for a national championship. This edict is largely unspoken, but it plays a factor in recruiting. The… Read more »

Reply to  Old Swim Bug
5 months ago

I will never tire of the lies that Texas exes tell themselves about their program.

Texas has the #1 freshman recruiting class in the nation, including the #1 recruit Carson Foster. They have the #1 sophomore class in the nation, including the #2 and #4 recruits. They have the #1 junior class in the nation, including #2 recruit Drew Kibler. The senior class is ‘only’ #2 in the nation…but that doesn’t include arguably the #1 diving recruit in the nation Jordan Windle.

It is necessarily about getting the #1 recruits year in and year out. Sure you have to coach them up and develop them. But, quit pretending that Texas is winning NCAA titles on the backs of second and… Read more »

Last edited 5 months ago by fertilecrescent
Old Swim Bug
Reply to  fertilecrescent
5 months ago

You’ve made some great points and also helped make my point. Braden Vines is a great example…without athletes like Braden scoring, they likely wouldn’t win. Championships are won on depth, plain and simple. You cannot win a championship with four or five or #1 or #2 recruits and nothing else. I’m not disputing that Texas has had their share of top-ten recruits, but it is not a team built solely on that aspect.

Furthermore, this template has been run for 40+ years. If you look at the 80s and 90s teams, they had there share of top athletes, but half or more of the scoring (unscientifically calculated) came from those that weren’t the “top guns.”

My original post had… Read more »

Last edited 5 months ago by Old Swim Bug
Reply to  Old Swim Bug
5 months ago

If you don’t think it’s about recruiting look at the Stanford women this year. All the superstars moved on and where did they finish – 11th. Again same coach same pool same school same culture.

5 months ago

Hopefully we will hear from the Texas boys in interviews

Mark Rauterkus
5 months ago

Thanks for the great insights and news coverage.

Mark Rauterkus
5 months ago

But, is the guy in finals breathing to his left or right on the final 25-yards so he can see the main competitor?

Reply to  Mark Rauterkus
5 months ago

Not sure, but I swam with his dad on the olympic team in 1984. He has such a great family

Joel Lin
5 months ago

Tonite, assuming the unthinkable doesn’t come to pass, Eddie Reese will become the first coach in history in any sport to be he head coach of an NCAA championship team in five different decades.

His first one was in 1981.

Ur mom
Reply to  Joel Lin
5 months ago

Almost could have been 6🤯

Reply to  Joel Lin
5 months ago

And sadly nowhere outside of the swimming world will this be known, communicated or celebrated.

Reply to  1001pools
5 months ago

Everyone in Austin will see the Texas Tower lit up burnt orange.

Reply to  1001pools
5 months ago

With a giant ‘1’ on all four sides!

Reply to  Joel Lin
5 months ago

Almost 6 decades. His Auburn team was 2nd in 1978 or 79. Too lazy to look it up.

He said what?
Reply to  Coach
5 months ago


Right Dude Here
Reply to  Joel Lin
5 months ago

He deserves a 30 for 30

Reply to  Right Dude Here
5 months ago

Can I upvote this 30 for 30 1000 times?

5 months ago

A bit interesting that VT had such a strong session today when at ACCs it was actually Day 4 when they fell out of team title contention. It’s a slight apples/oranges comparison, but still.

Reply to  200 SIDESTROKE B CUT
5 months ago

And they’re probably going to do well in their 400 Fr relay.

Reply to  200 SIDESTROKE B CUT
5 months ago

And have more swims than their main competitors at ACCs, NCSU (0 swims except the mile) and Louisville (2 swims minus the mile)

5 months ago

Am I the only one thinks the Indiana Hoosiers have a chance for an incredible comeback tonight??? If anyone can lead his team to the promised land, it is the great Coach Looze!!

cynthia curran
5 months ago

USC with one point. Probably, David Salo retired.

Pac12 Observer
Reply to  cynthia curran
5 months ago

Salo led the USC decline. In 2019 they were 20th or so, and probably would have been worse in a 2020 meet. Even the last few years they were decent (‘17 and ‘18) it was just a few top end swimmers (Carter, Condorelli, etc.) that were able to keep them relevant.

Joel Lin
Reply to  Pac12 Observer
5 months ago

Hard to make a real run of it at a private school which runs close to $80K per annum including board & other non-tuition expenses with only 9.9 scholarships. USC has a decent sized endowment, but it isn’t an institution that can simply allocate all the financial aid there is demand for, assuming their admissions process is agnostic to a family’s ability to pay (and it is not).

Reply to  Pac12 Observer
5 months ago

Salo actually revived the men’s program as his conference titles and the re-writing of the record books would attest to.

Reply to  cynthia curran
5 months ago

Probably why Salo retired?

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