Missy Franklin Kicks Off HS Season with 4 State Qualifying Times

  78 Braden Keith | January 09th, 2013 | Featured, High School, National, News

Missy Franklin’s final season of high school swimming is all about “team.” Despite winning 4 Olympic gold medals and being the best high school swimmer in the country (and one of the best swimmers in the world), she came back for her senior year to be a part of a team, and that began last night as she kicked-off her final season against Highlands Ranch.

In deference to the team attitude, Franklin swam two off-events at this meet to give her coach, Nick Frasersmith, as many options as possible headed toward February’s State Championship meet. Franklin put up state qualifying times in all four swims: the 200 IM (2:02.1), the 500 free (4:57.7), the 50 free (23.3), and the 100 free (51.5); the last two of those were done in relay leadoffs.

For anyone unfamiliar with the high school schedule in the United States, the final three of those events were swum in rapid succession. Note that the boys’ and girls’ high school seasons are separate, so there were no extra heats as Franklin hopped straight from the 500 free to the 200 free relay, then with two events off back into the 400 free relay.

Other good swims for Regis Jesuit include sophomore Taylor Wilson, who put up a 55.69 to win the 100 free – clearing the state qualifying mark in pretty heavy training. Among the top performers for Highlands Ranch is Gabrielle Liedy, who won the 200 free in 2:01.59.

e crowds came out as they always do for Franklin, who has become an idol to throngs of young swim fans. Estimates put between 250-300 fans at the meet, which is huge for a high school dual.

Regis Jesuit will be back at home next Tuesday as they take on their huge rivals from Cherry Creek at 4:30. This meet has an intense history that was forged in fire in Franklin’s sophomore season in 2011. There, Regis knocked off Cherry Creek at the 5A State Championship meet to break a streak of 6-straight state titles. At that meet, expect two different events from Franklin (if we had to guess, the 100 back and the 200 free will be coming up) to get two more state-meet qualifying times.

The final score of the meet was 227.5-88.5 in favor of Regis.

Full meet results available here.

Comments

  1. Ashley says:
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    I don’t know much about the scoring system but that seems like a HUGE margin, yeah? RJ showed the you-know-what up.

    • Braden Keith Braden Keith says:
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      It is a huge margin. Working to get full results so we can share some other good swims too…

    • ole 99 says:
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      I always thought high school dual meet scoring was pretty standard, but that certainly could be an incorrect assumption on my part. Regardless, I’ve always seen the following scoring:

      Individual Events (only 3 score from each team)
      1st Place ‐ 6 points
      2nd Place ‐ 4 points
      3rd Place ‐ 3 points
      4th Place ‐ 2 points
      5th Place ‐ 1 point

      Relay Events (only 2 score from each team)
      1st Place ‐ 8 points
      2nd Place ‐ 4 points
      3rd Place ‐ 2 points

  2. Balding Eagle says:
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    Fluff piece on NBC’s “Today” show, with video. She looks like she had fun, cheering and yelling with her teammates! Great perspective on her part: she’s climbed the mountaintop, and she’s showing her teammates that she values being with them and taking a few events for the team. “Just one of the girls.” In terms of her swimming the IM and the 500 free: what does she have to lose? She has FOUR Olympic Gold Medals. She should value this time, recharge emotionally, and don’t rush the 4-year process (or even the WC process for next year and ’15).

    http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50407554/#50407554

  3. jeantuehl says:
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    4 high school cut-times for an Olympic gold medalist!! Wow, fire up the presses and call security.

  4. Dave Berkoff says:
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    Jeantuehl, I think you missed the point of the article. I think the point is to show how refreshing it is to see someone who has accomplished so much in such a short amount of time to remain humble, sweet, and excited about an event that we may all believe would be unexciting to someone in her shoes.

    I read another article on Missy’s first HS meet and part of it discussed how a very small but vocal contingent of parents (aka jealous and whiny helicopter moms) that have protested her continued participation in HS swimming because she “takes away from the other athletes.” The point of that article was to point out that show that while Missy might be head and shoulders above her cohorts in HS, her approach and attitude are far more valuable.

    • Braden Keith Braden Keith says:
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      Well said, David.

      She is, afterall, still in high school, and is subject to every single NFHS rule that every other high school athlete is. Good luck trying to block her out other than by making her feel bad about it, or something.

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      I totally agree on that too ! She has a fantastic humble behavior many people may not yet understand .

    • jeantuehl says:
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      It is humble and refreshing of her for sure; it’s just not exciting press IMO emblazed in the gigantic red headlines of SwimSwam. I was also in the school of thought that she should have have taken the money and ran” after the Olympics, and I’m just hoping that she does well in the future, and doesn’t end up losing millions like QB Matt Barkely surely will after this season at USC. He should have gone pro last year.

    • concerned mom says:
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      You sir are totally out of place with your petty name calling (I’m referring to Dave Berkoff)!

      As one of these so called “helicopter moms”, let me remind you how unfair it is for Ms Franklin to deny a spot in every HS final she qualifies for (i.e. all of them), for a whole lot of deserving young girls who have worked very hard for this. And that’s not even taking into consideration that her vastly overrated Regis HS would be nowhere near the top if it wasn’t for her lopsided participation.

      Humble my ass! Quite the opposite in reality, does this overblown “superstar” get some sort of perverse satisfaction & self-confidence boost by rubbing it in to the faces of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of devastated teenagers that all their training & dedication to the sport ultimately counts for nothing, in fact making their PBs look ridiculously inadequate & slow next to her times??!

      It just makes me boil inside thinking about how seriously Ms Franklin is reportedly training for her HS State Championship, so that with the help of a professionally structured taper, she’ll have bragging rights to a bunch of National HS or Age Group records before she goes on to make the big $ in the professional arena…

      I really hope that this will all backfire on Ms Franklin, so she won’t be able to take down Ms Smoliga’s record for example in the 100y back. At least the latter deserved her achievements, not coming from a background of 5 Olympics medals, in fact not even having unfairly competed in the London Olympics, Shanghai World Championships or similar “professional level” competition prior to this.

      • gosharks says:
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        I actually broke out into a sweat reading your comment. I’m writing you off as a troll, because I refuse to accept that you believe what you wrote.

        • Rafael says:
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          It is a troll

          But In some way it actually has a point

          i Don´t think it is nowhere fair.. and challenging also for a Olympic Gold medalists to compete agasints High School swimmers.. what does Missy will actually gain from it?? For someone who wants to be a phelps like person.. she should step up the game whenever she can.. she got the ability to do it..

          Anyone who was the ability (on any sport) to be a Gold World/Olympic mefalists.. should not be allowed to compete with High Schoolers..

          She Could show um on some High School Competitions to encorauge everyone.. but not actually be a contender..

          • Philip Johnson says:
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            the way you phrase it, you make it seem like an Olympic medalist and a high schooler are two different entities. when in fact, many Olympic medalists are in high school. now I don’t think Franklin is competing in high school meets for the domination or to throw it in their face. i honestly believe she’s doing it for the team comradery because she just loves being around her teammates. what can she gain from it? i don’t think shes as much doing it for herself, but really for her colleagues.

            i know if i was a high school swimmer and I had the chance to swim in the same race as Franklin, I would be honored and delighted (even if i was being dominated).

          • Brian says:
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            No. Just no.

            I’ll put it in a way you can comprehend. It was my very first USA Swimming sectional meet, and it had come down to the 800 free relay. We were looking for a top 8 medal in the event. The team next to us, while they didn’t have the strongest first 3 swimmers, were anchored by some Olympian, possibly from Nigeria, I believe it was. My first three teammates swam out of their minds, and I remember pushing myself as hard as I could to keep that lead and stay ahead of the guy to my side and make sure he didn’t catch me.

            I succeeded, and as a result, we made it to the top 8.

            By such standards, people who compete for their country shouldn’t even be there.

            But whether it be high school, or sectionals, or wherever, everyone should have their opportunity to leave their mark. It’s not about the results, it’s about the process. And what these Moms are doing is showing their daughters if you’re not good enough, whine and complain and maybe everything goes away.

      • Charles Morton, Esq. says:
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        Totally agree. The Colorado State Swimming championship should be limited to all the non-Missy, scrappy youngsters who deserve it. We should do everything in our power to limit the massive ego on display here. In fact, if any underclassmen win states this year, let’s retire them immediately so the other swimmers can have a chance. In fact, if you qualify for states you should probably quit swimming right afterwards because that is not fair to the hard working swimmers who did not qualify.

      • Jerry says:
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        Woah there, People forget how much sacrifice goes into getting to that level. If these helicopter moms are upset about their daughters not being able to beat missy, they should think about the sacrifices that missy and her parents likely had to go through…swimmers don’t have a very social life to begin with and then missy is now so famous it would be hard for her to go out and do practically anything. She should be allowed to at least swim in her high school meets!!! A lady like her who has probably sacrificed much should not have to give up another element of her life that she wants to enjoy!

      • swimcoach24 says:
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        You have got to be kidding me with this comment. Swim parents like this are absolutely crazy.

        By your rationale.. Should Olivia Smoglia, who has won a world championship as well, she be “allowed’ to compete for her high school? What about Katie Ledecky? These are high school girls who just happen to be extraordinary athletes.

        As both a club coach and high school coach, its refreshing to see these athletes that cherish the team concept of swimming.

        Apologies that you wont be able to brag about your precious child being a Colorado state champion.

      • Lisa says:
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        Hello “helicopter mom”. These level athletes have been swimming high school for years. Many of them were allowed to train with their club teams and just show up for their high school meets,depending on the state. There were no complaints back then when records were being broken. We need to support our high level swimmers no matter what meet they are swimming in. Good luck Missy. I hope you hit your goals this high school season.

      • SEC_G8R says:
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        Has to be a troll!! I protest swimming against anyone faster than me because not winning makes me feel bad…….Good luck to Missy.

        On a serious note, I loved swimming against faster people because it pushed me to swim my best. I may not have won, but it was fun competing!!

      • COFLO says:
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        Its obvious “concerned mom” that you have no idea what HS swimming is all about, let alone what swimming for Regis Jesuit HS is all about! I have had the opportunity to watch two of my daughters and my son compete for REGIS and watched the incredible camaraderie, sisterhood and brotherhood, and traditions that this Jesuit High school fills their white bumble with on a regular basis! That is what Missy is there for, she started there as a freshmen, before all the incredible things she has accomplished occurred, and she deserves to end her senior year with her sisters hand in hand. Let me remind you that Regis won their state title with all 80 girls on the team pushing and cheering for each other for that win! Regis has been in the top 3 of 5A for the last 7 years. They should be in 4A because of their size, but decided on their own, to move up to 5A after winning the 4A championship in 2005! HS swimming is a team event, every swimmer works together to achieve greatness.

      • Dan says:
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        When I was in high school, there were a couple Olympians that swam in our section of CIF. My teammates and I really appreciated the opportunity to compete against the best in the world. I was nowhere near world class. I had no chance of beating either of these Olympians, but I got the opportunity to race the best. How many high schoolers can say that the raced a world record holder or world champion? It’s also pretty fun to watch the Olympics on tv and see somebody that you actually competed against.

        As high school swim meets allow only two individual events, Missy Franklin will prevent at most two athletes from qualifying, two from swimming in finals, and two from winning an individual state championship. At the same time, she will be allowing many others the chance to watch/race against one of the best athletes in the world. She has passed on millions of dollars in endorsement money in order to maintain her amatuer status. She is also a high school student. She deserves to be able to compete for her school.

      • NOT SO CONCERNED MOM says:
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        Well ever since Missy has been quoted as planning to just train thru and not taper for her state champs, I totally applaud her continued commitment and involvement in HS sports.

        Why?

        Cause my daughter has been training extra hard with our pet dolphin, so she’s going to feel that extra special come the championships where she’ll get to have a chance to beat a Olympic multi-gold medalist…

        Now how many teenagers can get to do that, huh??

        I tell ya, we love u Missy and are ever so grateful that you’re still competing in your senior year – especially if you heed my bigtime advice to put in an extra intensive Ryan Lochte-esque workout prior to States (i.e. no taper or even rest… but shaving is OK).

      • Brian says:
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        Shut up, you stupid parent.

        David Berkoff, Olympian, +1. Whiny Helicopter Mom, -1.

      • troy says:
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        WOW…..so she does not deserve it. She has the right and if anyone else would deserve it they would have to beat the best. Swimming is not that complicated fastest to the finish wins. Why should she not be able to represent her high school. SO should high swimming be for no club swimmers because they swim year round….think about it. I have been a club swimmer all my life and now am a coach and father, I helped my high school team win a state meet and so did the other few people on my team swimming club. Don’t get made cause you can beat the best just work hard and be your best. Everyone can’t win that is how the sport was created and if missy wants to swim high school and by the way if she turned pro she couldn’t she has every right to

  5. Jason Zajonc says:
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    Let her crush it. The other parents should be freaking honored they get to watch an athlete of world caliber swim at a local HS meet….

    USS swimmers always get the “it’s not fair that they swim” thrown at them…why because we have the dedication to practice and practice…the funny thing is most non uss swimmers i.e. the normal high school swimmers love having fast swimmers with them…they get to learn…so my hats off to MF and hopes that shes has a blast and crushes the season…get us some videos!

    • Coach GB says:
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      Most all of the young women in her event will remember and speak of it for the rest of their lives and the grace I am sure she showed to all of them. She is just amazing.

  6. Coach says:
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    At The Pacific Swim Coaches Clinic, Bob Bowman talked about creating a great swim culture.
    One in which, “Excellence is valued”.

    C’mon everyone! Jealousy is ugly – and so very obvious!
    Missy is giving the sport a fresh new start. Don’t blow it.

    • tryingnot2bHelicoptermom says:
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      100% agree with Coach. I have a 10 & under female swimmer who absolutely loves the sport of swimming. She loves Missy Franklin and everything she stands for. Missy is an athlete we want our young swimmers to look up to and idolize. Nothing wrong with being humble and helping your team win a meet or a championship. Isn’t that what being a part of a team is all about. Swimming can be a lonely sport. We should be thankful for Missy and what she is teaching our young swimmers. Oh and guess what, she has worked just as hard if not harder than anyone else. She has earned everything she gets, has won or qualified for including her HS finals. Last I remembered she is still in HS. Let’s not deny her that and let her continue to be a normal HS girl who is an extremely fast swimmer. We should be celebrating her not condemning.

  7. ReeceStyle says:
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    As much recognition as missy deserves, I think it’s a shame that Katie ledecky(who is also an Olympic gold medaliast) doesn’t get any credit for also doing hs swim.

    To those jealous parents- missy is doing more for hs swimming in colorado than anything, and the fact that they would try to ban her from it very disturbing!!

  8. Jerry says:
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    …three impressive young ladies who should have the same opportunities as other high schoolers without feeling the pressure from outsiders and jealous people

  9. vst5911 says:
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    It is sad that “concerned mom ” would be so small minded and hateful towards someone who is bringing so much to our sport. It should be an honor to compete with her and a great memory. If we as parents can’t appreciate what a wonderful example missy sets for our young athletes then we need to reevaluate what we find value from in swimming. Missy is a high school student and should be allowed to participate in hs swimming. Parents who think otherwise should be embarrassed by their small mindedness.

  10. Philip Johnson says:
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    Did Phelps ever swim for his HS team? i don’t think he did .. as i recall, he was pretty much swimming on the national and international scene since he was 15, possibly younger.

    • Coach GB says:
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      It is possible he was then turned pro to make him ineligble and Missy turned down a bundle to swim for her college team. Will there be some parents complaining there also?

    • gosharks says:
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      To my knowledge, NBAC doesn’t allow their swimmers (at a certain level) to swim in high school. I can’t recall any notable NBAC swimmers in recent years doing so, but correct me if I’m wrong.

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      If I remember correctly, Towson High has never had a swimming team (at least they didn’t when I lived in the area), so Michael didn’t have the opportunity to compete for his high school even if he’d wanted to.

    • Emily Mullen says:
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      Can we all stop criticizing a great Olympian and young women when she hasn’t broken a single rule? This was her choice to make and she made it. Maybe you think it’s wrong, but that’s your opinion.

      PS – Did anyone else see this article: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324235104578241961511333962.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines ?

      • Emily Mullen says:
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        and we all know what they say about opinions. They’re like _, everybody’s got one!

      • Peeterdeeter aka the Wall Street Colonel says:
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        Saw that article. Puke. The Journal is a veritable grab-bag of gag only good for 12-hour-late business news. Its relevance sags. The woman quoted and Cherry Creek high school swimmer and coach are waving the flag trying to brag that they’re hags. Or perhaps just on their rags? Occam’s razor. PMS is the only answer.

  11. Balding Eagle says:
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    I’m not sure I read this correctly, but was the “troll” or swimming parents getting upset that Missy’s Q time would have pushed another girl out of the state meet? Anyone upset about this is ignorant of the way swimming works. Firstly, a championship athlete can swim only two individual events; swimmers in other events would not be pushed out. Secondly: I’d guess that the state invites all qualifiers in an event, not the top X. Even if only 24, 32 or more athletes were invited, based on qualifying times, an athlete at the cut line should probably realize that more work is needed to qualify (and would she be upset that she was 33rd in the event Missy was entered?), that her time is probably mediocre, and to see point 1.

    The highlight of my swimming career was swimming against Bronze Medalist Artur Wojdat and NCAA Champ Marius Podkosjelny. I saw the heat sheet days before, and was anticipating that race. I had no hope of beating them in the 400m Free, so I thought about things like beating them to the 25, or getting on the blocks first, or getting someone to take a picture of the scoreboard with our names on it. At no time did I get upset that these two guys were taking “MY” spot in that evening’s finals. At no time did I think: “I finished 26th in prelims: if those two guys, International Stars, hadn’t been allowed to compete in a medium-level Senior Circuit Meet in Indy that summer, I’d have been in the Bonus heat.”

    • beachmouse says:
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      Well said! So few swimmers will make it to the D1 level and even fewer to the national team or international ranks. And for those of us who are always going to be above average at best, it’s actually pretty cool to get to touch greatness at a ‘little meet’.

      I was never close to D1 talent, but can say that when I think back at my sports career, there are many meets that are wholly forgotten, but the times I’ve gotten to go up against someone who went on to a national or Olympic team remain remembered and treasured.

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      I recall swimming a 200 fly against none other than SwimSwam’s Gold Medal Mel Stewart in a meet in 1988. Neither of us had a particularly awesome swim, but he beat me by a whole 25. If there were any bad feelings about it, it was because I didn’t swim my best time against someone that fast (in which case he’d have beaten me by about 20 yards instead of 25). We’re still buds, and he can still kick my butt… but he pushed me and inspired me to train hard and go faster throughout my entire career, even now when I have the time to train (still waiting for that rematch, Mel ;-) )

      Does anyone think Chad LeClos (or his mom for that matter) whined that it was unfair that he had to swim the 200 fly against Michael Phelps? No – he trained his butt off until he beat him in London. I’ve seen this kind of “but I want to win and set records” before, and it drives me nuts. It’s great to win and set records, don’t get me wrong… but isn’t it like winning the JV division if you’re not doing it against the best folks out there?

      • Braden Keith Braden Keith says:
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        Chris – be careful asking for a remmatch. About a year ago, I saw Mel swim like 20×25′s against 12 year olds…kicked every one of their butts.

      • Emily Mullen says:
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        Speaking of which, I was proud to swim in a 200 fly heat against Diana Munz at her club’s fall meet (LESD.) I had dislocated my knee a month or 2 before the meet and ended up getting DQ’d because I wasn’t able to keep my legs together throughout the whole race. Real swimmers such it up and swim on!

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          Munz was a pretty good flyer and backstroker!!! (I swam for LESD)

          • Emily Mullen says:
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            Yes she was, kicked my butt. I swam at plenty of meets with her, and sure, she didn’t make the olympics until our senior year, but no one ever questioned whether she should have been swimming high school. Joe Hudepohl is another example of an OH swimmer who was in the Olympics either during or immediately after high school. I’m not sure if Mary T swam for her high school team, but should she have been banned at 14 because she was a world record holder?

  12. PsychoDad says:
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    If you as a parent understand swimming as being just a tool for physical and mental development of your children, then your child swimming against Missy, dropping her best time by 2 seconds and finishing second, would be much more imortant than winning it without Missy swimming. I hope helicopter mom IS a troll for the sake of a child. If helicopter mom is for real, her inferiority complex is ruining that child. Our responsibilty should be to recognize, provide resources and help to develop tellents in our kids. Our insecurities should not play a role.

  13. VERY CONCERNED MOM says:
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    I am extremely concerned about the arrogance and lack of sportsmanship shown by Missy Franklin. Before we even discuss her swimming, let’s address the most arrogant thing she has done recently: hung out with Justin Bieber. My daughter and all her friends have been dying to meet Justin Bieber for years but have yet to have a private meeting with him. The way that Missy flaunts her celebrity is disgusting and my daughter cried when she saw her with Bieber.

    As for her swimming, I think that the public at large has been avoiding discussion of her lack of sportsmanship for quite some time. The way she beat Natalie Coughlin in Omaha was very arrogant and dismissive of all the hard work Natalie has done. It was also Natalie’s last Olympics and Missy completely ignored this for her own selfish gain. My daughter’s prom coach and I talked about it and she agreed, I do think it’s a realistic possibility that Missy is just jealous of how pretty Natalie is.

    Somebody needs to be the bigger person and come in and put a stop to this.

    • Balding Eagle says:
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      I’m similarly displeased at Muhammad Ali. Once he said “I’m the Greatest of All Time!”, what else does anyone have to aspire to?

    • WHOKNOWS says:
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      I can’t believe the shallowness of your thoughts! Are you for real?

    • Carly Vollin says:
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      Isn’t doing sports about performing your best? Do you want your kids to feel that they won just because the other competitors didn’t try their best?

      I believe Missy has rights to do things that she enjoys in life. Just like you kids would.

      • Coach GB says:
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        Could anyone write what is in concerned moms part and be serious. Sure it isn’t a prank and what is a Prom Coach?

        • MomoJamo says:
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          HAHAHAHAHAH! I think “Very Concerned Mom” is just a really clever prankster. However in this day and age, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that some dingbat mother has tried to hire a prom coach!

    • ReeceStyle says:
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      Uhh…are you even on the right sports fan page?

    • zebrafeet says:
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      So, veryconcernedmom, are you saying that Missy should have let Natalie win in Omaha? if this is your point, then why not say Rachel Bootsma also displayed poor sportsmanship? Or any of the qualifiyers in the 100m fly?

      Good grief woman, chill. Your kid wants to meet Bieber; that alone is scary and a prom coach? The fact that your daughter cried because somebody else got to do something is unhealthy. I don’t bawl everytime I see a plane leave for Paris. If your child is old enough for a ‘prom coach’, she should be old enough to grasp you don’t get everything you want in life.

      I never made it past age group swimming; one of my very good friends swam D1 and qualified for the ’96 trials. She didn’t go around saying people should have ‘given up’ so she made the team. To this day, she points to being in the same pool as Janet Evans and getting to race against her. I’m thinking we were 17 at the time?

      Parents make so much more out of this than the kids.

      • Braden Keith Braden Keith says:
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        I think we should clarify…I’m pretty sure that everyone but the original Concerned Mom has just been spoofing on Concerned Mom. I can’t say for sure if Concerned Mom was serious or not, but I’m pretty sure VERY CONCERNED MOM was trying to make a joke.

    • caswimgirl says:
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      Dear jealous mom. If this situation was your daughters and she was a gold metalist would she be sitting out? Life is not fair! Their will always be athletes that are better than yours. Ms. Franklin chose to keep her amateur status for this reason. As for crying over Justin, there are a lot more things to cry over. Take a life lesson and train harder!

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      Can’t beleive the negativeness and unreflective thoughts u have been throwing up here . U obviously can’t think in a positive mode.Nothing to do with Missy Franklin i sense here . Please , get back in the pool as a normal swimmer and feel how beneficial it is for your mind to relax . Please let go that pattern of criticizing , let go of those limiting senses in you . Get back to dignity .

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      have u got any sense of positive looking at life ??? or bright relfection of mind ??

    • Stunned says:
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      Just because Missy is the fastest, most talented and hardest working does not mean that she should be allowed to compete where every she chooses and is eligible. She should share the glory with the poor souls that just don’t feel that they can work that hard. It’ s not their fault that they are not as tall as she is, so she should give the others a chance to feel like winners. Just because she is a high school student, taking the same classes and walking the same halls does not mean that she should be allowed to compete for national high school records, that may never be broken! She should give up this opportunity so that the other girls feel better. We need to protect their self esteem.
      Missy….we are just asking you to “give just a little bit more”

    • Chad says:
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      Are you kidding me Missy Frankin beat Natalie because she is a better swimmer, why on earth would she let Natalie win Missy was trying to go to the Olympics, also she’s a 4 time Olympic Gold medalist so she probably will get to meet Justin bieber, and there’s no reason your daughter should cry about that. And of you have to resort to you think Missy is jealous of Natalie YOU need to grow up

  14. PsychoDad says:
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    >Parents make so much more out of this than the kids.

    But, you have to belive it, it is only the case here in the USA. Why is that? In my opinion it is the result of kids being “prisoners of the home” – islotated families without friends or the feel they are part of a broader community. Parents want them to succeed so bad since that is the only way to break out of the “prison” – entire family – kids and parents – to prove their are special. In Europe, you are ashamed if you parents come to your game – otehr boys call you a Mama’s boy. Here, we think it is good for their self esteem if we show up in every meaningless game they play. We need to leave them alone little more and let them learn hard way instead of us “helicoptering” them. Who will time their races from stands when they join real life later on?

    • PsychoDad Who Likes Concerned Moms says:
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      That being said, 35 year old Moms that screem “Go Tommy” while drinking starbucks coffee kind of turn me on :)

  15. jziegler says:
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    Is this about our children or our jealous parents? Parents….grow up…..Missy is great….deal with it!!!!

  16. SEC_G8R says:
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    Best thing I heard someone say “You shouldn’t have to apologize for being good.”

  17. cynthiacurran says:
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    Well, in the 1960′s Mark Spitz swam for Santa Clara high school in those days that high school clubbed the competition because they usually had more than one national caliber swimmer. Same does for Indian River Community College that recruits swimmers that could be on a NCCA 1 team.

  18. cynthiacurran says:
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    Well, I swam for Golden West Community College and their is recruiting now at the JC’s. When I swam there were no swimmers from South America or Water Polo players form Eastern Europe. Its changed a lot.

  19. bobo gigi says:
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    Wow! Too funny to read this debate! It looks like this mom doesn’t like very much Missy. And it also looks like she’s very jealous. Can somebody explain me what is an helicopter mom? Helicopter or not this mom needs a big psychological treatment.

    • MomoJamo says:
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      Bobo, a “helicopter parent” is someone who constantly “hovers” over their children, never letting them do anything on their own (or one who constantly steps in to fight their battles for them, etc.) Unbelievably, there are parents out there who still “call in sick” for their kids 25 yrs. old + and who offer to talk to their boss when “Snookums” is having a hard time at their job or with their co-workers. Yes, you are right, they need psychiatric help all right!

  20. spectator says:
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    As a parent, one of my favorite high school dual meets was against a school with an amazing swimmer who went on to receive a full D1 scholarship. The girls on our team were all anxious about having to swim the 500 against this girl – knowing she was an incredible athlete. Everyone knew they were going to be lapped – but how many times? My daughter was second place and almost lapped twice. Unexpectedly the entire audience (we were the visiting team so only about a dozen parents from our team) stood up and applauded my daughter (over 200 people). (My daughter lapped the rest of the field at least twice). When the event was over, my daughter was so excited, “Mom – she didn’t lap me twice”. The woman sitting next to me from the other team told my daughter, “Honey, you did amazing – nobody can beat her”.

    My daughter got a personal best time and competed against an amazing athlete. She was much more excited getting second place at this meet than first place at other meets. Competition makes the meets more fun!

  21. Jcoach says:
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    And – It continues – Wow

    http://tinyurl.com/aq2hljk

    • duckduckgoose says:
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      The comments from the Cherry Creek swimmers and parents are pretty damning and certainly don’t paint them in a good light. Good thing that Internet articles disappear permanently and there aren’t any tools to access them later.

      I recall friends in their 20s (far from middle age) who laughed wistfully about having raced future Olympians, or played against future NFL and NBA players. Sure they good smoked, but it was more about perspective and the joy of competition, something some of today’s parents and kids lack.

  22. swim coach says:
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    enjoy this short story… i sat with my swimmers one practice during a break. i asked them, “what does ‘no child left behind’ mean to you?” (i was referencing gov’t programs)

    the swimmers responded, “it means that being excellent at something is less important than making sure everyone everyone is at the same level.”

    pretty prophetic for children to state.

    today’s society is dominated by the “no child left behind” parents. parents who want to make sure getting a participation award is more important than being awarded for actually achieving something you had to work for.

    maybe these parents were lousy athletes, or not athletes at all. maybe these parents were the 2nd or 3rd string kid who didn’t get to play much. or maybe they weren’t on the “a” relay. who knows. but these same parents are taking their failures out on the next generation of kids.

    missy franklin has EARNED the right to represent her high school. missy franklin has WORKED to achieve her success.

    so to all of those parents who don’t want their child left behind… get over it. instead of bashing one of the best young swimmers of the next generation, how about taking some pride in your own kid and what they have achieved. how about appreciating the accomplishments of missy – and others like her – and consider how fortunate it is for your child to be exposed to that level of swimming on a regular basis.

    and lastly, if you (parents) can’t accept the fact that your child may not be as good as a missy or an olivia or a jack (conger), etc, take a look in the mirror… there is the real disappointment.

    • MomoJamo says:
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      In all fairness, Swim Coach, not everyone who “works hard” or busts their butt in the pool every day becomes a champion, and particularly a champion at Missy’s level. I have personally seen many, many kids who NEVER miss a practice, work harder than ANYONE else in the pool at practice, sacrifice like crazy, but when it comes to racing or getting faster, it just NEVER happens, or they hit a very long plateau, and never progress any further.

      The 3 kids you mentioned – Franklin, Smoliga, and Conger also have an extraordinary “gift” which allows them to do what they do in the pool. That is not to say that they don’t train REALLY HARD, but most kids their age who swim AND train as hard as they do (and I know they exist – I have seen it) won’t ever reach that level.

      Heck, if you have ever stood next to both of those girls (Missy and Olivia) you will note they are much taller (and much bigger) than MANY of the boys their age, nevermind the girls. These are some BIG GIRLS which as you know, can certainly an advantage in swimming, if you have the natural feel and gift in the water. Janet Evans and a few others were certainly the exception, but there aren’t too many other tiny girls (or guys) out there who, when evenly matched in other areas, wouldn’t like to have the height enjoyed by Missy and Olivia when it comes down to reaching for that last wall.

      • swim coach says:
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        momo:
        not really sure what your point is?

        my point is missy (and others at her level) has just as much right to compete for her high school as long as she (and others like her) are eligible to do so.

        its appears to me that there are those who are more upset that their child isn’t going to win an event at a high school meet. these are the same parents who think everyone should get 1st place, everyone is a winner. this is competitive swimming, not recreational swimming. the faster athlete will win… period.

        regarding the comment about height, sure it can matter a little (no pun intended). but “its the size of the fight in the dog, not the size of the dog in the fight.”

        my 5’1″ swimmer was able to win events contested at our senior sectional champs versus swimmers at or over 6’0″ last summer. as a coach, we identify how to make a smaller swimmer faster and focus on that; not give up just because the swimmer is smaller.

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